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LIRs from Donetsk area?
by Sergey Myasoedov 27 Jun '15

27 Jun '15

Hi all, It may be looks like a Friday joke, but it is real: alloclist.txt: ru.dnr "Center of Internet services in DNR" 20150626 185.106.128.0/22 ALLOCATED PA 20150626 2a06:3dc0::/29 organisation: ORG-OISI2-RIPE org-name: "Center of Internet services in DNR" org-type: LIR address: 4, Lenina, Rubezhnoe, Luhansk reg., address: 93010 address: Lugansk address: RUSSIAN FEDERATION phone: +380986237344 e-mail: directory(a)dnr-online.net What the documents were provided for LIR registration? The certificate issued by Sealand Principality or what? Are there any kind of due diligence on the incoming documents? Human check? Not sure. -- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov

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Re: [members-discuss] LIRs from Donetsk area?
by Alexander Zubkov 27 Jun '15

27 Jun '15

My point was not about this. There was complaints that RIPE NCC performing bad when registering LIR's. I just wanted to say that given that example, there is no reasons to complain on RIPE NCC in given aspect. Considering your question. As I know, Lugansk is not a part of Russia. It is not me, who have written such address, I do not why they have done it. More to say I found it confusing that it is in Lugansk, but states that it servicing DNR. But I have a little information about what interrelations they have. Do not want to justify somebody, but it is entirely possible that this is only option for them to receive mail in Lugansk. On 06/27/2015 01:17 AM, Yakimus // VOKS support wrote: > Hi, Alexander! > Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:53:03 +0300: > > AZ> Isn't it postal address supplied by LIR almost in free form? > AZ> This can be absolutely legal Russian company with good > AZ> papers, which specified such postal address. > > Is there in real a village/town/city in RF, named Lugansk? > > address: 93010 > address: Lugansk > address: RUSSIAN FEDERATION >

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[#VER-185-22767]: Re: NCC changing descr fields
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05 Jun '15

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03 Jun '15

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NCC changing descr fields
by Paul Civati 03 Jun '15

03 Jun '15

It seems as though someone has decided to run a process of 'tidying up' in the RIPE db by fiddling with descr fields. I've been informed that: === During one of our data consistency checks, we saw that the resource holder information for these resources is not consistent: x.x.x.0-y.y.y.255 We will therefore be updating the resource holder information in the RIPE database objects to <company> and ORG-xxxx-RIPE on 2015-06-08." === This is somewhat mysterious, vague and puzzling Confusing because all the relevant handle and organisation records point to the correct objects for this block. Upon asking NCC what they are doing, I'm told that the descr field is incorrect and will be amended, actually to remove from it "London". What on earth is the point of this whole exercise? This has generated confusion on my part and a waste of support resource in NCC to deal with my query. We already have admin, tech and org fields that point to the identifying organisation for the object but now someone has decided that the descr field must have duplicated information. The help section in whois mentions nothing about what data is to be in descr field, nor do I recall any mandate that it must be set to the name of the organisation. I can't be the only one confused by this vague change and asking NCC what is going on and why. Summary: seems a totally pointless waste of time. I guess someone in NCC was bored because I can't see any other point of this. Regards, Paul. -- Paul Civati <paul(at)racksense.com> 0870 321 2855 Rack Sense Ltd - Managed Service Provider - www.racksense.com

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Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme and ASNs
by Nick Hilliard 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

On 02/04/2015 15:09, Nigel Titley wrote: > There will therefore be two resolutions on charging at the GM: > > - Members will be asked to vote to approve or reject the Charging Scheme > 2016 that was published on 24 March: > https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/may-2015/supporting-documents > > - Members will also be asked to vote to approve or reject a resolution > that would instantiate a EUR 50 charge per ASN Nigel, thanks for bringing this in as a voting item on the agenda. I believe this to be the best way to resolve the issue in the long term. There are ~27000 asns assigned by the RIPE NCC. Assuming a €50 annual charge, this will raise additional revenue of approx. €1.3m or around €120 per LIR. If the NCC membership votes in favour of a charge for ASNs, could you clarify whether this additional revenue will be: 1. used to drop the 2016 LIR charge from €1400 to around the €1300 mark, 2. retained as a surplus by the RIPE NCC, 3. returned to the membership by way of a future credit, as outlined in the last GM, or 4. something else. thanks, Nick

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by Elvis Daniel Velea 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

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Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2016
by Brandon Butterworth 29 Mar '15

29 Mar '15

> I'm not that sure anymore, the AS transfer policy is being implemented > and ASN16s will soon have a value once the free pool is depleted. People have learnt from v4 that you don't give up scarce things. One day people will pay for them, and as I said the other week if you want to garbage collect them you'd have to charge a high price to make it worth giving up (or pay as others have suggested) and people won't vote for that. A 50 Euro fee is way too low to do it and a pointless complication to the simplified charging scheme. I also doubt the unadvertised figure gives the whole picture, some will be used privately (no idea how many). I think trying to retrofit other hand back schemes now is futile (it was hard to hand back once, back when people wanted to hand back) brandon

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Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2016
by Brandon Butterworth 29 Mar '15

29 Mar '15

> I do not really believe that the purpose of this discussion has ever > been garbage collection. I thought it was, at least some people said it was, and nobody said the NCC needs to tax something to raise more money how about ASNs. > That makes it 27128 assigned ASNs. If each would have a (very low) 50E > fee, that would bring ~1.35M Eur additional budget to the RIPE NCC which > could be spent on outreach or could be used to lower member fees. Has the NCC said it needs more money (it could raise the existing fee if it did) If the total stays the same it's just reverting to an older charging scheme. I don't see the value in doing that. > I think that is the discussion we are having and I believe this has > always been the reasoning for the presentation at the GM and the noise > on the mailing list. Then I totally missed it. The NCC really needs loads more money? > I also think we should forget about garbage collection in ASN16 because > it will never happen. That was my point brandon

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Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2016
by Daniel Karrenberg 29 Mar '15

29 Mar '15

To put this discussion into perspective I suggest to have a look at http://www.potaroo.net/tools/asn32/ and specifically the second table under "Current Status". I suggest to compare the ratio of the columns "Unadv" and "Adv" for our region with the total and with other regions. Daniel

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