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Moderation Enabled on Members-Discuss
by Serge Radovcic 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Dear colleagues, We’ve noticed that the large amount of emails asking to unsubscribe has been detracting from the discussion on this list. We have therefore turned on moderation and will not be letting through any more emails until tomorrow at the earliest. If you would like to unsubscribe, you can do this through the LIR Portal. Log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on “Edit my LIR details” under “Subscribed Mailing Lists” and from here you can add or remove email addresses. ***It is important to note: any subscription changes made in the LIR Portal may take up to 24 hours to be processed. If you have already updated this information, the change will happen in this timeframe*** If you have any questions, please email <ncc(a)ripe.net>. Once this issue is resolved, we hope we can return to the important member discussion on the multiple LIR issue. We trust that this interruption won’t have too much of an impact on the community’s discussion, as it is not immediately time sensitive. Kind regards Serge Radovcic Chief Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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by Thierry Durieux - Neo-One 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Please remove me from discussion list Salutations. -- Thierry Durieux Directeur Technique Téléphone: 05 67 34 67 90 | Support: 09 70 75 37 40 8 chemin de la terrasse - BP 45122, 31512 Toulouse Cedex [cid:image001.png@01CF96D9.2F09BA30]

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by Omar Dallah 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Dears, Please remove my email from the discussion email list. BTW I removed my email by LIR portal but still receiving the discussion emails. Please help. Regards, Omar Dallah From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Matthijs van Seventer Sent: 17 February 2016 16:58 To: BOGDAN Orasanu; 'Markus'; members-discuss(a)ripe.net; Claudiu Foleanu Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple Hello all, LIR’s that don’t use IPv4 adresses should be able to return them. The only parties that will win otherwise are brokers with ridiculous prices. Matthijs Van: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] Namens BOGDAN Orasanu Verzonden: woensdag 17 februari 2016 15:53 Aan: 'Markus' <universe(a)truemetal.org>; members-discuss(a)ripe.net; Claudiu Foleanu <claudiu.foleanu(a)thorpanel.com> Onderwerp: Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple Hi there, I administer such a small ISP, that had to return somehow by force half of the allocated IP addreses. This way of doing bussiness should not be encouraged by RIPE, i instead of RIPE will ask a huge LIR that managed milions of IP addresses how come they were able to transfer maybe half of them ? They were only reserved and not used ? Or eliberated of usage thtought some means in order to capitalise ? LIR should be able to manage respurces only toward end user and not among LIRs exept and ISP that want to manage their own address space and not for trade. The resource belongs to public not to lirs. Best regards, Bogdan Orasanu Senior Network Administrator SC Expert Net SRL Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone ---- Claudiu Foleanu wrote ---- Hi Markus, The lir send`s a document to the company in wich says "As per end user contract signed you have 3 months to stop using resources" and after this the resources are sold. It happend to a lot (and i do mean a lot) of companies in Romania. I think that Romania is number one in number of resources (ipv4 address space) sold. And as i said in my previous email most of them have been in use. I have a /22 witch is in IRAN now. Sold to an Iranian telecom company by the lir. I have not received any previous notification. Our callcenter just started getting calls about internet not working. We did not imagine that someone will do something like this. We addressed this issue with ripe-ncc at that time and the reply was find a new lir we cannot help in the matter. We should ask a report for tickets created from Romania regarding address space from Romania with the same issue. Best regards, Claudiu Foleanu -----Original Message----- From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Markus Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:37 PM To: members-discuss(a)ripe.net; Claudiu Foleanu Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple Hi Claudiu, Am 17.02.2016 um 15:26 schrieb Claudiu Foleanu: > No it`s not bad to sell ip`s. It`s bad that the people are abusing the > system. It`s bad that small companies that had a /22 a /24 etc.. have > the resources allocated taken away, and sold for profit. [...] can you elaborate on how these small companies have resources taken away from them? I can't imagine how that works. Who forces these companies to give their resources up? I've noticed that a company called "IPv4 Management SRL" (www.ip.ro) from your country is selling a lot of smaller IPv4 blocks like all the time. It seems like they are the predominant seller in the RIPE market judging from <https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/tra nsfers/ipv4/ipv4-transfer-statistics> Do they have something to do with what you described? Cheers Markus ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.

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Removing from the Mailinglist
by Patrick Velder 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Hi Could you please stop sending your removal requests to all subscribers of this list? For some reasons, the LIR Portal exists. Thank you very much. Regards Patrick

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by Zurab Bukhnikashvili 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Please remove me from discussion list Best regards, Zurab Bukhnikashvili Network Administrator Georgian Research and Educational Networking Association 10 Chovelidze Str. 0108, Tbilisi, Georgia, Phone: + 995 32 2250590 Fax: + 995 32 2912952 <http://www.grena.ge/> www.grena.ge

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by IT 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

To unsubscribe: mailto:members-discuss-request@ripe.net?subject=unsubscribe (unless RIPE hacked mailman) Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards, Maarten Dammers Netwerk Expert Roberto Ubeda Platforms IT(a)jscingenium.com<mailto:IT@jscingenium.com> JSC Ingenium Condesa de Venadito 1, 28027 Madrid (Spain). Office 902 095 045 Fax 902 095 046 JSC Ingenium web page<http://www.jscingenium.com/> JSC Ingenium company blog<http://blog.jscingenium.com/>

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by Nizamuddin Khawaja 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

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Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple
by BOGDAN Orasanu 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Hi there, I administer such a small ISP, that had to return somehow by force half of the allocated IP addreses. This way of doing bussiness should not be encouraged by RIPE, i instead of RIPE will ask a huge LIR that managed milions of IP addresses how come they were able to transfer maybe half of them ? They were only reserved and not used ? Or eliberated of usage thtought some means in order to capitalise ? LIR should be able to manage respurces only toward end user and not among LIRs exept and ISP that want to manage their own address space and not for trade. The resource belongs to public not to lirs. Best regards, Bogdan Orasanu Senior Network Administrator SC Expert Net SRL Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone ---- Claudiu Foleanu wrote ---- >Hi Markus, > >The lir send`s a document to the company in wich says "As per end user >contract signed you have 3 months to stop using resources" and after this >the resources are sold. >It happend to a lot (and i do mean a lot) of companies in Romania. I think >that Romania is number one in number of resources (ipv4 address space) sold. >And as i said in my previous email most of them have been in use. I have a >/22 witch is in IRAN now. Sold to an Iranian telecom company by the lir. I >have not received any previous notification. Our callcenter just started >getting calls about internet not working. We did not imagine that someone >will do something like this. >We addressed this issue with ripe-ncc at that time and the reply was find a >new lir we cannot help in the matter. >We should ask a report for tickets created from Romania regarding address >space from Romania with the same issue. > >Best regards, >Claudiu Foleanu > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of >Markus >Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:37 PM >To: members-discuss(a)ripe.net; Claudiu Foleanu >Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC >Members and Multiple > >Hi Claudiu, > >Am 17.02.2016 um 15:26 schrieb Claudiu Foleanu: >> No it`s not bad to sell ip`s. It`s bad that the people are abusing the >> system. It`s bad that small companies that had a /22 a /24 etc.. have >> the resources allocated taken away, and sold for profit. >[...] > >can you elaborate on how these small companies have resources taken away >from them? I can't imagine how that works. Who forces these companies to >give their resources up? > >I've noticed that a company called "IPv4 Management SRL" (www.ip.ro) from >your country is selling a lot of smaller IPv4 blocks like all the time. It >seems like they are the predominant seller in the RIPE market judging from ><https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/tra >nsfers/ipv4/ipv4-transfer-statistics> > >Do they have something to do with what you described? > >Cheers >Markus > > > > > > > > > >---- >If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general >page: >https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > >Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, >you can add or remove addresses. > > >---- >If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: >https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > >Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. >

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17 Feb '16

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17 Feb '16

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