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Charging Scheme Task Force 2024 Meeting Minutes (10 December 2024) - v6 and Legacy v4
by Brandon Butterworth 13 Jan '25

13 Jan '25

v6 categories. Is this not the time to go to a flat charge per holder regardless of size and avoid re creating the v4 problem. If v6 should follow v4 problems then the same category issues may arise. v4 legacy resources: A few things seem self evident 1. holders don't trust what might happen if they convert it 2. holders should not be put in peril if you want them to convert 3. once it is not legacy there is no going back unless the holder has not changed anything about it (ie they can roll back to escape unfavourable policy only). 4. when legacy changes hands then it should lose legacy status, triggers will include: if sold in some manner the controlling organisation changes and is no longer clearly part of the same org (with vagueness to cover gaming, RIPE decides). It has to remain in essentially the same legacy state or it is no longer legacy. Simplest is to just require legacy holders to be a member either for the legacy or any other space (so only one membership). brandon

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q1 2025
by Adonis Stergiopoulos 19 Dec '24

19 Dec '24

Dear colleagues, We have now published the Q1 2025 quarterly plans for our development teams: https://www.ripe.net/support/documentation/quarterly-planning These plans include the work items that will be carried out over the next quarter and give you the chance to provide your feedback and suggestions that the RIPE NCC should be working on going forward. The plans cover the following areas: - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications. - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Information Security, Risk, and Compliance - Training and Certification Please share your suggestions on this list or the RIPE NCC Forum: https://forum.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Adonis Stergiopoulos Senior Marketing & Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Charging Scheme Task Force 2024 Meeting Minutes (27 November 2024)
by Karla Liddle-White 13 Dec '24

13 Dec '24

Dear RIPE NCC members, The Charging Scheme Task Force held a meeting on 27 November. The minutes from the fifth meeting are now available at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/cha… The task force welcomes comments on the minutes, either on this list or you can email the task force directly at: charging-scheme-task-force2024(a)ripe.net The task force also held its last meeting of the year this week and we will share the minutes from this meeting soon. Best regards, Karla Liddle-White Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Analysis on Participation in October 2024 GM
by Ilke Ilhan 06 Dec '24

06 Dec '24

Dear all, Following the GM in October 2024, we looked into the participation and shared our analysis in this Labs article. https://labs.ripe.net/author/ilke-ilhan/analysing-turnout-at-the-october-20… We aim to develop a clear record of participation in the General Meetings. If you’d like us to include more in these analyses, please let us know. Best, Ilke

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Re: [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Member Update: November 2024
by Radu Anghel 05 Dec '24

05 Dec '24

Hi, Would it be possible to also send the monthly membership update in the old-fashioned plain-text-in-the-mail with the option to view it on the web, i.e. revert to the pre-July 2023 format? I know there are pros and cons for both options, such as the ability to measure how many members click on the link / are interested in the update, but it would be more user-friendly to be able to search through my own email archive instead of the RIPE NCC website. Thank you! Radu On 28.11.2024 17:25, Kjerstin Burdiek wrote: > Dear RIPE NCC members, > > The November 2024 Member Update is now available on our website: > https://www.ripe.net/about-us/news/member-update/member-update-november-202… > > This month’s update includes important reminders to check your billing information and submit any LIR closure requests before the end of the year, as we’ll be preparing invoices soon. We also remind you that the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 introduces changes to fees for independent resources held or sponsored by members, so please review all independent resources currently registered to or sponsored through your LIR account and update them if needed. > > Best regards, > > Kjerstin Burdiek > Communications Officer > RIPE NCC > ----- > To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/ncc-announce.ripe.net/ > As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. > More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/

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Re: Serious concerns about the RIPE NCC Cloud Technology Status
by sdy＠a-n-t.ru 02 Dec '24

02 Dec '24

As I understand it, our "friends" come from "bile". This is not constructive. You probably don't understand that all these problems will soon surface IN ALL countries. As tensions in the relationship and the crisis increase, the desire to filter content by the authorities will grow rapidly. By the way, this has already begun in the EU, does no one see it? Using cloud platforms, which the United States purposefully "sharpens" for the orange revolutions, under the guise of fighting for security, is STUPID. > Hello. > > I honestly believe it’s not and should not be related to RIPE in any way. If RKN wants to ban certain resources, TLS ECH or entire tech stack - that’s their right and you can ask them directly what to do. > > What is point to ask RIPE about it? RIPE is not required to comply with RKN demands. > >> On 7 Nov 2024, at 19:22, sdy(a)a-n-t.ru wrote: >> >> And so, we just started discussing it and it happened: >> >> Roskomnadzor recommended that owners of Internet resources in Russia abandon the CDN service (content delivery network) of the American CloudFlare >> The agency claims that the company uses technology to provide access to prohibited information, which violates Russian law >> CloudFlare... In October, the TLS ECH (Encrypted Client Hello) >> extension >> was enabled by default on its servers. This technology is a means of circumventing restrictions on access to information prohibited in Russia >> Roskomnadzor assures that CloudFlare was among the Biotech companies that >> the State Department gathered in September >> to discuss a comprehensive and organized counteraction to countries actively defending their information sovereignty >> >> WTF >> >>> I would like to understand what RIPE NCC will do if, at the next round of >>> sanctions, access to the cloud or mail servers becomes completely closed >>> from a number of countries, for example Russia. We have already faced the >>> fact that a huge number of Western services have limited access to their >>> resources and as the war with the Russian Federation is lost, the number >>> of blockages is only growing. >>> >>> Please give me an answer: WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THIS CASE? >>> ----------------------------- >>> Serbulov Dmitry >>> a-n-t.ru >>> >>> ----- >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, >>> please visit: >>> https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/members-discuss.ripe.net/ As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with >>> the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. >>> More details at: >>> https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ >>> >> >> >> ----------------------------- >> С уважением Сербулов Дмитрий >> ООО "Альфа Нет Телеком" >> +7(498)785-8-000 раб. >> +7(495)940-92-11 доп. >> +7(925)518-10-69 сот. >> >> ----- >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, please visit: >> https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/members-discuss.ripe.net/ As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. >> More details at: >> https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ > ----- > To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, please visit: > https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/members-discuss.ripe.net/ As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ ----------------------------- С уважением Сербулов Дмитрий ООО "Альфа Нет Телеком" +7(498)785-8-000 раб. +7(495)940-92-11 доп. +7(925)518-10-69 сот.

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Serious concerns about the RIPE NCC Cloud Technology Status
by Timo Hilbrink 25 Nov '24

25 Nov '24

Hi all, As we have seen in the past several Information Services updates from Felipe, the RIPE NCC has been moving a lot of services to the cloud, this now also includes things like RIPE NCC email, calendars, chat and video conferencing. The follwoing page gives a helpful overview of these services and the relevant cloud platforms: https://www.ripe.net/publications/documentation/cloud-technology-status/ The page states that "all services pass an internal process of strict legal, information security, technology and privacy reviews". That all sounds very reassuring, doesn't it? However.. Even though the "Data Residency" column states "EU" for all these services, these cloud providers are a U.S. legal entity (or a foreign entity with an office in the U.S.), so the data stored on these platforms completely falls under U.S. legislation, such as the CLOUD act and numerous related acts and laws. It is completely irrelevant where this data is stored geographically. This also means that the data stored on these platforms can be subject to U.S. law enforcement warrants and subpoenas. As a concerned and privacy aware citizen, i find it very worrying that basically all my interactions with the RIPE NCC in some way end up in the hands of U.S. based cloud providers. But i can imagine that these concerns are much more serious for RIPE members in countries that have a less favourable relation with the U.S. (there are quite a number of those countries within the RIPE service region) What do other members think about this, and has the RIPE NCC taken these consequences into account when they decided to move all this data and services to U.S. based hyperscalers? Thanks for your thoughts, Timo Hilbrink Freedom Internet

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Charging Scheme Task Force 2024 Meeting Minutes (29 October 2024)
by Karla Liddle-White 25 Nov '24

25 Nov '24

Dear RIPE NCC members, The Charging Scheme Task Force held a hybrid meeting on 29 October at RIPE 89. The minutes from the fourth meeting are now available at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/cha… The task force welcomes comments on these minutes, either on the list or you can email them directly at: charging-scheme-task-force2024(a)ripe.net The next meeting is scheduled for later this week and the task force's report, presented during the October General Meeting, is also available to watch online. The report begins 53 minutes into the main session video: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/october-2024/video-archive/ Best regards, Karla Liddle-White Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Re: Review your RIPE NCC Contact Information before 2025
by Brandon Butterworth 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

On 13/11/2024 19:55:48, "RIPE NCC via RT" <hostmaster(a)bogons.net> wrote: >Please check the accuracy of the following information in the LIR Portal (https://my.ripe.net/#/billing) >You can use this form to estimate your costs for 2025: >https://www.ripe.net/membership/payment/charging-scheme-2025-estimator/ Someone obviously put some effort into making that but why? You included a dump of info to check, why not also send the output of the billing software instead of everyone having to find their data and enter it manually into another tool? Simpler, quicker. brandon

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Charging Scheme Task Force 2024 Third Meeting Minutes (22 October)
by Karla Liddle-White 29 Oct '24

29 Oct '24

Dear RIPE NCC members, The Charging Scheme Task Force held a hybrid meeting at RIPE 89 today and approved the minutes of the last meeting. The minutes from the third meeting are now available at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/cha… <https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/cha…> The task force welcomes comments on the minutes, either on this list or you can email the task force directly at: charging-scheme-task-force2024(a)ripe.net The task force will present a report tomorrow at the RIPE NCC General Meeting under agenda point 5. You can still register to attend and vote at the General Meeting until 14:00 (UTC+1) on Wednesday, 30 October. Register at: my.ripe.net Best regards, Karla Liddle-White Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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