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A request to terminate ENOG
by Töma Gavrichenkov 11 Mar '22

11 Mar '22

Peace, (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, — because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential future meetings indefinitely. Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian, Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other regional communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space among the communities. In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for all the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as ENOG at the time. Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC. Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to hold any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair. It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act. It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any future alignments to replace ENOG. Stay safe. -- Töma

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Re: [members-discuss] LIR invoices for Ukrainian companies
by Bernd Sontheimer 10 Mar '22

10 Mar '22

+1 We support this proposal as well! Am 2022-03-08 13:54, schrieb Max Tulyev: > Hi All, > > as you now there is a huge russian military invasion in Ukraine. > > The communications, especially Internet access, is one of the most > important things during this time. > > Unfortunately, almost all ISPs facing with a financial impact of war > because of non-payment crisis. A thousand of Euros is a huge money now > even for big companies. > > I think it is a good idea to support Ukrainian ISPs and postpone > payments for LIR for them until the end of the war. -- Bernd Sontheimer phone +49 7361 93810 sdt.net AG fax +49 7361 938181 Ulmer Str. 130 eMail sontheim(a)sdt.net D-73431 Aalen https://www.sdt.net

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Re: [members-discuss] LIR invoices for Ukrainian companies
by Sergii Demchuk 10 Mar '22

10 Mar '22

+1 we support -- Sergii Demchuk *== Stargroup LLC ==* lir(a)stargroup.com.ua

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Reply: RE: Annual contribution payment options
by alex 10 Mar '22

10 Mar '22

Hello Mark, You see the problem is that EURO are technically banned here in Russia till Sep 9, and technically even if I have EURO at my disposal they will be converted via RUB-USD-EUR scheme > Hello Alexey, > > I think RIPE NCC should be able to make it possible to accept the money in different currencies. However the amount in EUR has to be paid in the end. This means after the additional costs for the RIPE NCC in bank fees the amount has to be paid in my opinion. > > USD payments to EUR accounts are possible at most banks I believe. At the moment of receiving the money it is exchanged from USD to EUR. If a LIR at a moment pays a bit to much it could be kept by RIPE NCC for the next bill and put it is a prepaid there. Also paying every month/quarter a part off your invoice is something that the RIPE NCC should be willing to accept if it is needed because of external (to the LIR and NCC) conditions (regulations). > > Things like this should be available to all LIRs and not limited to certain countries/LIRs. Contacting the RIPE NCC is an acceptable extra step the RIPE NCC can ask. > > Kind regards, > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces(a)ripe.net> On Behalf > > Of Alexey S. Berezhnev > > Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 23:11 > > To: members-discuss <members-discuss(a)ripe.net> > > Subject: [members-discuss] Annual contribution payment options > > > > Dear colleges, > > > > I would like to discuss the possibility to pay up RIPE NCC bills (annual > > contribution, to be more specific) in other currencies, than EURO. > > > > I can assume, as per the latest actions of the currency regulator - Central > > Bank of Russia, there is a chance that outgoing payments in EURO will be > > either impossible, or will be performed with double conversion with high > > commission at each step for Russian LIR holders. This will double the > > expense, of Russian LIRs. Not to mention, that payments made by > > sponsoring LIR significantly exceed regular contribution for an obvious > > reason. > > > > Therefore, I suggest the following measures to be discussed. > > > > 1. Break payments into quarters for Russian LIRs, and yet perhaps, we will > > overcome the limits set by central bank until Sept 9, 2021 > > > > 2. Make it possible for the annual contribution to be made USD, etc. by > > prevailing cross-rate. > > > > 3. Evaluate the possibility to accept cryptocurrency (ETH, BTC, and etc). > > > > This post is totally about financial problems to be discussed, and therefore I > > kindly ask other members to avoid any political statements in this thread. > > > > > > > > -- > > ------ > > Alexey S. Berezhnev > > Office: +7 495 973 21 25 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > members-discuss mailing list > > members-discuss(a)ripe.net > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members- > > discuss/ripe%40mscholten.eu > >

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Re: [members-discuss] LIR invoices for Ukrainian companies
by Sebastian-Becker＠telekom.de 09 Mar '22

09 Mar '22

We do support this proposal. Kind Regards Sebastian Becker LIFE IS FOR SHARING. You can find the obligatory information on https://www.telekom.de/compulsory-statement ________________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces(a)ripe.net> on behalf of Max Tulyev <maxtul(a)netassist.ua> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2022 4:24 PM To: Members Discuss Subject: [members-discuss] LIR invoices for Ukrainian companies Hi All, as you now there is a huge russian military invasion in Ukraine. The communications, especially Internet access, is one of the most important things during this time. Unfortunately, almost all ISPs facing with a financial impact of war because of non-payment crisis. A thousand of Euros is a huge money now even for big companies. I think it is a good idea to support Ukrainian ISPs and postpone payments for LIR for them until the end of the war. Please, do support of this proposal. Thank you all!

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Moderation of the Members Discuss Mailing List
by Christian Kaufmann 08 Mar '22

08 Mar '22

Dear members, The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolved to temporarily moderate the members-discuss mailing list starting from Saturday, 5 March 2022, 23:00 UTC+1 and until further notice. The mailing list will be moderated in accordance with the purpose of the mailing list and the principles of the RIPE Code of Conduct by a designated member of the RIPE NCC Executive Board and a RIPE NCC staff member. All emails, accepted or rejected, will be archived on the RIPE NCC website. The archive of all mails sent is available at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss-unmoderated/ Kind regards, Christian Kaufmann Chairman of the RIPE NCC Executive Board

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Re: [members-discuss] [ENOG discuss] Hа: Re: A request to terminate ENOG
by Dmitry Kohmanyuk 05 Mar '22

05 Mar '22

Ms.Nadezhda Kupina, > On 2022-03-04, at 15:52, Nadezhda O. Kupina <NOKupina(a)akado-telecom.ru> wrote: > > Добрый день! > Мы, как операторы связи, должны быть аполитичны! > Не надо смешивать политику и оказание услуг связи пользователям. > Today, world wide telecommunications leader Cogent has complety canceled, terminated, dissolved, and disconnected all circuits, links, and operator premises equipment serving their customers in Russian Federation. There was less than 2 days notice of the fact. The law of its jurisdiction, United States, did not compel it to this drastic action, as no sanctions has been levied against telecom operators in Russia yet (ok, perhaps couple of State Duma parliamentary members owns an ISP - although I highly doubt that.) During the undeclared war, Ukrainian National railway operator, Ukrzaliznytsya, has terminated all interconnect points with RZhD, Russian railways. They did so to inhibit a flow of weapons and military, and carry neither insignia nor flags. I would like to remind our community of our meeting in Minsk. Would you go there now? There are missiles shot, southward from it. The purpose of ENOG was the same of my favorite company, Nokia, whose slogan was “connecting people.” We cannot do it until the bloodshed stops, the criminal regime of Russia goes to trial in The Hague, and the complicit in war crime population of Russia goes through the process of deputinization. [1] I am using this opportunity to resign from ENOG PC. I can be last member that went to most meetings, and was still hoping for good. Until now. I have ENOG logos on my credit cards. The RIPE community can definitely decide to resurrect the ENOG, perhaps in this way: to join some countries with SEE, and some with MENOG. I would not join until this war ends. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

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RIPE NCC Planning Q1 2022
by Fergal Cunningham 11 Jan '22

11 Jan '22

Dear members, We have now published our Q1 2022 plans for our development teams. These are available at: https://www.ripe.net/support/documentation/quarterly-planning Our quarterly planning includes the work we will be carrying out in the next few months in RPKI, the RIPE Database and our Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, registry services and other applications. We also include for the first time the plans from our Learning and Development Team for our e-learning courses, webinars and Certified Professionals exams. If you have any input on our plans or want to let us know what you would like to see the RIPE NCC work on, please let us know. We will add your feedback to the pages and our teams will consider it for future plans. Kind regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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Request for view only access in the LIR Portal
by Theodoros Polychniatis 08 Dec '21

08 Dec '21

Dear members, We received this request on the NCC Services WG list: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2021-November/00350… We would be interested to hear if this is something other members would like to see or if there are other aspects of LIR Portal access privileges they would like to see us consider. We'll keep an eye on feedback here and on the NCC Services WG list. Best regards, Theo -- Theodoros Polychniatis Asst. Manager Software Engineering RIPE NCC

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Your opinion about Temporary Assignment request
by Sergei Volgapkin 27 Oct '21

27 Oct '21

Dear members, May you find the time to tell your opinion about situation with "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Policies" (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-587). We've found that RIPE Team can reply you in this manner "/at this moment we have not received //*sufficient evidence*//in order to see that the request for a temporary assignment is justified/"/./ If you ask about examples of "sufficient evidence" you may get the answer like this "/I am afraid that we are not able to give any examples. Temporary assignments are provided on a case-by-case basis and there is not a 'standard template' for this./" It means that RIPE able selectively accept requests for the temporary assignments and not every LIR has the same capabilities. I think that this service should have just standard request form. I'm appreciate for your time and answers. Regards -- Sergei

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