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Moderation approval timeline
by Lu Heng 19 Jul '22

19 Jul '22

Hi What is moderation policy currently in this list? I have sent an email to the list but didn't see it appear in achieve. Lu Heng Chief Executive Officer LARUS Limited Email H.Lu@LARUS.netmailto:a.yan@outsideheaven.com Office tel:+852+29888918 Address A3, 11/F, TML Tower, Tsuen Wan, N.T, Hong Kong SAR Website: LARUS.net This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Second attempt in declaring my position
by Sander Steffann 18 Jul '22

18 Jul '22

Hi everybody, My previous version of this email got rejected by RIPE NCC moderation, so let me try again… I have understood that people have interpreted this bit in a way that I didn’t mean: > Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Lu Heng and the way he does business, but not all his lawsuits are without merit Let me put that in very clear words: I personally extremely strongly oppose what Lu Heng is doing, his apparent morals and ethics, the way he does business etc. The way he is suing AFRINIC, blocking their bank accounts and stuff like that, just for personal/business benefit, is very much not ok. But… He is also not stupid. He abuses things that are actually wrong in AFRINIC to get what he wants. Just because he’s doing things that I think are very bad doesn’t mean that he is always wrong. Scary: definitely! Bad: definitely! But: the way to solve this is by getting things in order inside AFRINIC and by going through the proper legal channels in Mauritius. This is not something that is up to us, the RIRs or the NRO to fix. This is something for the African legal system and the African community to solve. We do not control their fate. My apologies if anyone thought that I support Lu Heng in this. I very strongly do not. But I do oppose to the way the NRO is getting involved. Cheers, Sander

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q3 2022
by Fergal Cunningham 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

Dear members, We have now published our Q3 2022 plans for our development teams. These are available at: https://www.ripe.net/support/documentation/quarterly-planning Our quarterly planning includes the work we will be carrying out in the next few months in: - RPKI - Learning & Development - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - RIS - Information Technology and Security If you have any input on our plans or want to let us know what you would like to see us work on, please let us know. See the specific plans for details on where to provide input to the relevant teams. Kind regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] The RIPE NCC General Meeting May 2022
by Hank Nussbacher 25 May '22

25 May '22

On 20/05/2022 16:30, Hans Petter Holen wrote: > Resolution 3: > "The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2023." https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2022/voting-report I would hope that with a 25% voting NO to the charging scheme, that the executive board create a discussion as to why so many LIRs voted against the proposed charging scheme and perhaps in the future break down the charging scheme vote into smaller components rather than an all or nothing vote. Regards, Hank

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Re: [members-discuss] Ukrainian members payments
by Hans Petter Holen 25 May '22

25 May '22

Dear Sergey, members, Below you will find our response to Oleksandr Savchuk's request on behalf of the Ukrainian Internet Society (UIA)[1]. Regards Hans Petter Holen Managing Director RIPE NCC [1] https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2022-April/004562.h… ---- Mr Oleksandr Savchuk Chairman of the Ukrainian Internet Association Kyiv, Ukraine 24 May 2022 Re: Request to ‘Zero’ RIPE NCC Membership Fees for Ukrainian Network Operators Dear Mr Savchuk, Thank you for your letter dated 4 April 2022. We would like to first express our solidarity with Ukrainian network operators and our admiration for their efforts to maintain connectivity at such a difficult time. For our part, we will do what we can to support the Ukrainian membership, consistent with our mission to enable stable Internet operations throughout our region. Regarding your request: as you will know, we have informed Ukrainian members that we will not terminate their Standard Service Agreements (SSAs) if they do not pay their 2022 fees on time or are unable to meet certain administrative requirements. At the RIPE NCC General Meeting last week, we discussed support for Ukrainian members (Agenda Point 4: Provision of Undisrupted Services to Members and Community) and explained the RIPE NCC’s current thinking on the matter of invoices, which appears to be generally supported by members. The current Charging Scheme does not allow for a specific group of members to receive a payment exemption. Applying this would require a vote at the General Meeting along with additional legal and administrative overhead. We would also have to align this with the principle that we treat all members equally. The RIPE NCC will therefore continue with an extension of payment obligations for as long as needed. This approach can always be revisited if needed. If the situation in Ukraine changes and it becomes apparent an extension is not enough, we can have this discussion with the membership. Finally, I would like to thank the members from Ukraine who made time to participate in our General Meeting last week. To do so given the current situation underlines how serious a matter this is for your association and the wider community in Ukraine, and we will certainly reciprocate by giving this our highest priority. Sincerely, Hans Petter Holen Managing Director RIPE NCC

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Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] The RIPE NCC General Meeting May 2022
by Sergey Myasoedov 24 May '22

24 May '22

Dear Hans Petter, Board, It would be good to disclose also the vote weight parameter as well in the voting reports as it was done in the previous GM's report. Compare https://www.bigpulse.com/disclosevotes?code=1637913936wg94ermvZtuw5xuxCG9V and https://www.bigpulse.com/disclosevotes?code=1652356433f9hF532YmSBbBzMYsXAu Thank you. -- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov > On 20 May 2022, at 15:30, Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce(a)ripe.net> wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > The RIPE NCC General Meeting May 2022 took place from 18-20 May 2022. > > A total of 1,379 members cast their votes on three resolutions and in the Executive Board election. Not all members cast votes in all ballots. > > The following resolutions were approved by the General Meeting: > > Resolution 1: > "The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Financial Report 2021." > > Resolution 2: > "The General Meeting discharges the Executive Board with regard to its actions as they appear from the Annual Report 2021 and Financial Report 2021." > > Resolution 3: > "The General Meeting adopts the RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2023." > > Executive Board Election: > > The following two candidates were elected to the RIPE NCC Executive Board: > Ondřej Filip > Remco van Mook > > A full voting report is available at: > https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2022/voting-report > > Congratulations to Ondřej and Remco on their re-election to the RIPE NCC Executive Board. My appreciation to everyone who contributed to the important discussions and voted at the GM. > > Kind regards, > Hans Petter Holen > Managing Director, RIPE NCC >

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Recording of RIPE NCC Open House: Meet the Executive Board Candidates
by Fergal Cunningham 11 May '22

11 May '22

Dear members, The recording of the Meet the Executive Board Candidates Open House, in which the three Executive Board candidates spoke on topics of importance to the membership, is now available: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2022/eb-elections… Interaction with the candidates is also possible on the eb-candidates mailing list, which you can sign up to here: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/eb-candidates The election takes place next Wednesday, 18 May, at the General Meeting. Everything you need to know (the agenda, supporting documents, candidate biographies, how to register, etc.) is available from: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2022 Best regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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Ukrainian members payments
by Serge Pershin 08 Apr '22

08 Apr '22

Hello, Dear Colleagues, Please take an attention to the letter from Oleksandr Savchuk, The Chairman of the Board of Ukrainian Internet Association -------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mr. Christian Kaufmann! Dear colleagues! The Ukrainian Internet Association (UIA) is the largest Internet-association in Ukraine: It unites more than 230 members, 70% of which are telecom operators. For more than 20 years, the Association has been implementing projects aimed at developing the Ukrainian segment of the global Internet and protecting the interests of its members. Let us express our sincere gratitude for RIPE NCC's efforts to maintain the stability of the Internet in our region and to coordinate and develop the interactions within the Internet community. We would like to note that the Ukrainian segment of the Internet does not stand apart from these activities. Now Ukrainian Internet Association and all Ukrainian ISPs are appealing to the RIPE community for help. We have a war going on in our country, with the Russian army firing heavy missiles into cities. Infrastructure is constantly being destroyed, it has to be rebuilt under fire. Income payments dropped down in a order of magnitude. We are asking RIPE NCC members and the organization itself to consider zeroing payments to RIPE NCC in 2022 for Ukrainian members. Looking forward to the future fruitful cooperation and successful working relationship! Respectfully, Oleksandr Savchuk Chairman of the Board of Ukrainian Internet Association ------------------------------------------------------------- -- kind regards, Serge Pershin mailto:serge@ix.net.ua

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RIPEdb registry need to be ready for separating?
by Serg Galat 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

Dear colleagues, I found some strange scheme - https://twitter.com/EvgeniiBender/status/1502709009408835589?s=20&t=PSGBvgc… If this is true, Russian LIR must be already registered in those structures. Can anyone confirm or disprove the existence of such events? -- Sergey

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Legal compliance doubts
by Stary Bezpiek 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

W dniu 19.03.2022 o 06:59, Taras Heichenko pisze: > Peace. > > I am glad to see that RIPE NCC is legally clean. There are questions about humanism but of course this is not a cope of work of RIPE NCC. In my opinion - it is not. RIPE NCC claims to operate in accordance with its own policies, that are created by the community. Meanwhile, we have a selective treatment of Members in terms of payments without: a) RIPE NCC resolutions b) without annexes to contracts with users. c) policy change Neither the Agreement nor the existing policies allow for discretionary behavior like "this user may not pay, and others must" without formal authorization. Of course Ukraine as an attacked country can and must be treated with any aid, including exemption from payments, when possible. But it has to be passed by a resolution of the RIPE NCC ordinance. The resolution may contain one sentence: "We do not issue invoices to Ukrainian members until the end of the war." Vote: who is in favor? All? The End. On the other end is Russia, as a country that has been subject to sanctions. It should not be of our interest, that they cannot pay. In result, recognizing that Russia users may not pay, because they have "banking difficulties" means, that no one from Russia will pay. Without any consequences. Although they probably can pay. Letting go at this point is very unfair to other Members. I also have a difficult in payment because the Euro exchange rate is very high. Does it interest someone? -- Stary Bezpiecznik

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