Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair: - Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group, launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list. Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period. We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed interest for this post. Julf & Achilleas -----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair) Dear Group, We have posted a call for third co-chair on Monday, November 30. We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed interest. For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week, until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc). Julf & Achilleas -----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair) For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-... "The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs, ideally from differing sectors, being ideal. The process for selecting a new chair is as follows: 1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least every three years, or whenever needed. 2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s. 3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion. 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates. 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal." Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means interested parties have until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known. A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely welcome! Julf & Achilleas
Dear Group, Following the recent announcement for a call for a third Chair, I would like to be considered for the position. Here is a little about me and why I think that I would be a good fit - Richard (Dick) Leaning *Am currently a Director of Trust and Safety at Cloudflare with Global responsibility for Outreach. My role involves engaging with a broad range of stakeholders including law enforcement, rights holders, child protection, policy and government organisations. * *I spent a 30 year career in law enforcement, spending the last 10 years working for the National Cyber Crime Unit (NCA) in the UK and the European Cybercrime Centre (Europol) in The Hague. I have been involved with the RIPE community since 2009 and between 2015 - 2019 worked for the RIPE NCC External Relations department, joining Cloudflare in 2020. * *I am a member of numerous internet related working groups with international exposure, including the Europol’s European CyberCrime Centre (EC3) Advisory group on cyber security. I established the Government Advisory Committee Public Safety Working Group at ICANN (GAC PSWG) and also helped create the Number Resource Organisations public safety coordination group. * *Throughout my career, I have built relationships of mutual trust and respect that facilitated significant collaboration with law enforcement, government authorities and industry partners not only within Europe but also extensively in the Middle East, Africa and Asian Pacific regions. * *I believe this vast international experience in Public, Private and Intergovernmental industries and environments, together with my skills, reputation and global network, will be an asset to the RIPE community and the Cooperation Working Group, and will ensure open constructive discussions taking into account all stakeholder's vision of the Internet landscape. * Am more than happy to answer any questions if anyone feels they need to know more about me and what I can add to the group. Cheers Dick On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 14:46, KEMOS Achilleas <Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu> wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group, launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period.
We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed interest for this post. Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
Dear Group,
We have posted a call for third co-chair on Monday, November 30.
We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed interest.
For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week, until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc).
Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-...
"The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs, ideally from differing sectors, being ideal.
The process for selecting a new chair is as follows:
1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least every three years, or whenever needed. 2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s. 3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion. 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates. 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal."
Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means interested parties have until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known.
A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely welcome!
Julf & Achilleas
-- *Richard Leaning* Director of Trust & Safety - Outreach Cloudflare
Dear members and colleagues I confirm my interest to volunteer, and if selected, to serve as a third Cooperation Working Group Co-Chair. A few lines about me: I am Public Policy & Internationals Affairs Senior Adviser at Afilias, based out of Europe. At Afilias I focus on activities that contribute to DNS and the Internet community. I have over 25 years of international experience in non-profit and private sector. My decade-plus of close and productive interactions with regulators and intergovernmental leaders, academics, and community activists provides me with connections and experiences to deal with the often complex, cross-sectoral challenges of the Internet technical coordination and governance. I served as Special Advisor to the UN Chair of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group 2006-2009. I was elected to the boards of Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (2004-2010) and the Internet Society. (2004-2010 and 2013-2019). At the Internet Society, I also Co-chaired the Organisational Membership Council from 2010-2013. Last, but not least, I count myself as a long-time member of the RIPE community. I volunteered on the RIPE SEE Program Committee (2010-2017). While I was at the Oxford Internet Institute, I worked on the two RIPE NCC membership surveys in 2013 and 2015. Thanks for the opportunity to be considered. If you have any further questions, please let me know. Desiree Miloshevic —
On 15 Dec 2020, at 13:46, KEMOS Achilleas <Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu> wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group, launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period.
We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed interest for this post. Julf & Achilleas
Dear all Further to Julf's question, here is my vision for 2021 Cooperation WG There are numerous challenges and opportunities facing RIPE community from many directions. The Internet itself has challenges such as excessive data collection, industry consolidation, content moderation, security challenges, etc. We’re still in the pandemic and the Internet plays an even more important part in everyone’s life, from kids to adults. Yet the Internet continues to be run with enough capacity, in a robust and secure way. Nowadays, more than in the past, many legislations have extraterritorial impact, like privacy laws in Europe that affect Internet globally. Huge number of governmental legislations/regulations introduced and proposed by the EU will control what some RIPE community members do, e.g. in terms of intermediary liabilities as part of Digital Services Act, Data Governance Act, NIS directive revision, etc. One challenge involving work with some international organisations is that the RIPE community is not an entity per se. But all challenges call for many discussions, deeper collaboration and finding consensus. I also see the following opportunities: - Better connecting of stakeholders; - Finding an opportunity to respond to consultations; - Finding ways that community opinion can be turned into meaningful consensus positions that can be offered where necessary; - Discuss how global IGF opinions might influence what/how RIPE does. The Future of IGF vs RIPE’s role in that; - Extend the communities own reach to fully become and remain multi-stakeholder and across 76 economies and states; It would be a great if in 2021, we turn some of the many challenges into opportunities, and I would be willing to contribute my time towards that. Desiree --
I support Desiree. ________________________________ From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Desiree Miloshevic <miloshevic@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 1:22 AM To: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net <cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net> Cc: cooperation-wg@ripe.net <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion Dear all Further to Julf's question, here is my vision for 2021 Cooperation WG There are numerous challenges and opportunities facing RIPE community from many directions. The Internet itself has challenges such as excessive data collection, industry consolidation, content moderation, security challenges, etc. We’re still in the pandemic and the Internet plays an even more important part in everyone’s life, from kids to adults. Yet the Internet continues to be run with enough capacity, in a robust and secure way. Nowadays, more than in the past, many legislations have extraterritorial impact, like privacy laws in Europe that affect Internet globally. Huge number of governmental legislations/regulations introduced and proposed by the EU will control what some RIPE community members do, e.g. in terms of intermediary liabilities as part of Digital Services Act, Data Governance Act, NIS directive revision, etc. One challenge involving work with some international organisations is that the RIPE community is not an entity per se. But all challenges call for many discussions, deeper collaboration and finding consensus. I also see the following opportunities: - Better connecting of stakeholders; - Finding an opportunity to respond to consultations; - Finding ways that community opinion can be turned into meaningful consensus positions that can be offered where necessary; - Discuss how global IGF opinions might influence what/how RIPE does. The Future of IGF vs RIPE’s role in that; - Extend the communities own reach to fully become and remain multi-stakeholder and across 76 economies and states; It would be a great if in 2021, we turn some of the many challenges into opportunities, and I would be willing to contribute my time towards that. Desiree --
Dear group, Let me start by wishing you a happy and safe 2021. In the Chinese calendar, 2020 is the year of the Rat, and 2021 the year of the Ox. Personally I have to say I prefer BS (that is something we are all used to) to the plague. Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing the prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much input from the WG members. Therefore I would like to kick off a quick discussion round by asking both Desiree and Dick to post their visions of what they think the challenges and opportunities are in 2021 for the RIPE community with regards to governments and international organisations. Julf On 15-12-2020 14:46, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group, launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period.
We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed interest for this post. Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
Dear Group,
We have posted a call for third co-chair on Monday, November 30.
We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed interest.
For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week, until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc).
Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-...
"The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs, ideally from differing sectors, being ideal.
The process for selecting a new chair is as follows:
1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least every three years, or whenever needed. 2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s. 3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion. 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates. 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal."
Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means interested parties have until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known.
A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely welcome!
Julf & Achilleas
I think Dick would make a good co-chair and his background would be useful to the group Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> Date: Saturday, 2 January 2021 at 14:51 To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net <cooperation-wg@ripe.net>, Richard Leaning <rleaning@cloudflare.com>, Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic@afilias.info> Cc: 'cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net' <cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion Dear group, Let me start by wishing you a happy and safe 2021. In the Chinese calendar, 2020 is the year of the Rat, and 2021 the year of the Ox. Personally I have to say I prefer BS (that is something we are all used to) to the plague. Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing the prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much input from the WG members. Therefore I would like to kick off a quick discussion round by asking both Desiree and Dick to post their visions of what they think the challenges and opportunities are in 2021 for the RIPE community with regards to governments and international organisations. Julf On 15-12-2020 14:46, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group, launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period.
We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed interest for this post. Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
Dear Group,
We have posted a call for third co-chair on Monday, November 30.
We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed interest.
For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week, until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc).
Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process:
"The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs, ideally from differing sectors, being ideal.
The process for selecting a new chair is as follows:
1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least every three years, or whenever needed. 2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s. 3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion. 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates. 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal."
Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means interested parties have until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known.
A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely welcome!
Julf & Achilleas
Who cares what you think, you dirty spamhaus sponsor. ________________________________ From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight via cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:10 PM To: Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com>; cooperation-wg@ripe.net <cooperation-wg@ripe.net>; Richard Leaning <rleaning@cloudflare.com>; Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic@afilias.info> Cc: 'cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net' <cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion I think Dick would make a good co-chair and his background would be useful to the group Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> Date: Saturday, 2 January 2021 at 14:51 To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net <cooperation-wg@ripe.net>, Richard Leaning <rleaning@cloudflare.com>, Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic@afilias.info> Cc: 'cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net' <cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion Dear group, Let me start by wishing you a happy and safe 2021. In the Chinese calendar, 2020 is the year of the Rat, and 2021 the year of the Ox. Personally I have to say I prefer BS (that is something we are all used to) to the plague. Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing the prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much input from the WG members. Therefore I would like to kick off a quick discussion round by asking both Desiree and Dick to post their visions of what they think the challenges and opportunities are in 2021 for the RIPE community with regards to governments and international organisations. Julf On 15-12-2020 14:46, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group, launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period.
We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed interest for this post. Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
Dear Group,
We have posted a call for third co-chair on Monday, November 30.
We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed interest.
For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week, until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc).
Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process:
"The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs, ideally from differing sectors, being ideal.
The process for selecting a new chair is as follows:
1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least every three years, or whenever needed. 2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s. 3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion. 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates. 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal."
Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means interested parties have until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known.
A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely welcome!
Julf & Achilleas
Elad, This kind of personal attack is not acceptable in this working group. Please behave professionally towards other WG list members. Any further unprofessional behaviour on your part will result in you being removed from the list. Julf On 03-01-2021 17:27, Elad Cohen wrote:
Who cares what you think, you dirty spamhaus sponsor.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight via cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> *Sent:* Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:10 PM *To:* Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com>; cooperation-wg@ripe.net <cooperation-wg@ripe.net>; Richard Leaning <rleaning@cloudflare.com>; Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic@afilias.info> *Cc:* 'cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net' <cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net> *Subject:* Re: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion
I think Dick would make a good co-chair and his background would be useful to the group
Regards
Michele
--
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Hosting, Colocation & Domains
Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
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*From: *cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> *Date: *Saturday, 2 January 2021 at 14:51 *To: *cooperation-wg@ripe.net <cooperation-wg@ripe.net>, Richard Leaning <rleaning@cloudflare.com>, Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic@afilias.info> *Cc: *'cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net' <cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net> *Subject: *Re: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion
Dear group,
Let me start by wishing you a happy and safe 2021. In the Chinese calendar, 2020 is the year of the Rat, and 2021 the year of the Ox. Personally I have to say I prefer BS (that is something we are all used to) to the plague.
Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing the prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much input from the WG members. Therefore I would like to kick off a quick discussion round by asking both Desiree and Dick to post their visions of what they think the challenges and opportunities are in 2021 for the RIPE community with regards to governments and international organisations.
Julf
On 15-12-2020 14:46, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group, launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period.
We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed interest for this post. Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
Dear Group,
We have posted a call for third co-chair on Monday, November 30.
We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed interest.
For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week, until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc).
Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-... <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/coop/cooperation-wg-chair-selection-process__;!!DOxrgLBm!RUWHqPd1OzavwrllGhRk-_vr1KIBh5aH4PTcE-fCNqKeFv3Qvsj7wmRJM5flkrFL0ycL2ax8$>
"The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs, ideally from differing sectors, being ideal.
The process for selecting a new chair is as follows:
1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least every three years, or whenever needed. 2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s. 3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion. 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates. 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal."
Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means interested parties have until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known.
A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely welcome!
Julf & Achilleas
Dear group, Best wishes for happy prosperous and healthy 2021 from me too. Many thanks to Dick and Desiree for having responded to Julf's request on visions of challenges and opportunities for 2021, as well as many thanks to all those who expressed support for the candidates. As this is a selection rather than an election process, it would be much more helpful to know the reasoning why you express support for a candidate rather than the mere expression of support for this candidate. Best regards. Achilleas -----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 3:51 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net; Richard Leaning <rleaning@cloudflare.com>; Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic@afilias.info> Cc: 'cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net' <cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg-chairs] [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion Dear group, Let me start by wishing you a happy and safe 2021. In the Chinese calendar, 2020 is the year of the Rat, and 2021 the year of the Ox. Personally I have to say I prefer BS (that is something we are all used to) to the plague. Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing the prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much input from the WG members. Therefore I would like to kick off a quick discussion round by asking both Desiree and Dick to post their visions of what they think the challenges and opportunities are in 2021 for the RIPE community with regards to governments and international organisations. Julf On 15-12-2020 14:46, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group, launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period.
We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed interest for this post. Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
Dear Group,
We have posted a call for third co-chair on Monday, November 30.
We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed interest.
For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week, until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc).
Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-...
"The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs, ideally from differing sectors, being ideal.
The process for selecting a new chair is as follows:
1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least every three years, or whenever needed. 2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s. 3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion. 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates. 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal."
Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means interested parties have until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known.
A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely welcome!
Julf & Achilleas
Hi everyone, Happy New Year to you all. I want to go ahead and address a potential point of awkwardness for everyone – an elephant in the room of sorts – and I figure it's best to rip off the bandage now so we can move forward in a constructive way. This group now faces a challenging (but ultimately positive) dilemma of having not one, but two excellent and well-qualified individuals running for the open co-chair position. If you're like me, this presents quite a challenge. I've been quiet on the matter because I personally know Dick and Desiree. They are both exceptionally qualified, and I have no doubt either of them will do an excellent job in this role. But without trying to offer a non-endorsement for either, I'd rather frame it the following way. I enjoy keeping up with this working group and the value it adds, but it essentially has no impact on my work (and is, thus, not my place to decide). When considering who to cast your vote for, my suggestion is to think of whose background and experience best compliments Julf and Achilleas'. I can think of no better way to assess. Regardless, I have no doubt both will be gracious whatever the decision and remain engaged. Do any others feel similarly? Best, -Michael Oghia On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 12:09 PM KEMOS Achilleas < Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu> wrote:
Dear group,
Best wishes for happy prosperous and healthy 2021 from me too.
Many thanks to Dick and Desiree for having responded to Julf's request on visions of challenges and opportunities for 2021, as well as many thanks to all those who expressed support for the candidates. As this is a selection rather than an election process, it would be much more helpful to know the reasoning why you express support for a candidate rather than the mere expression of support for this candidate.
Best regards. Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 3:51 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net; Richard Leaning <rleaning@cloudflare.com>; Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic@afilias.info> Cc: 'cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net' <cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg-chairs] [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion
Dear group,
Let me start by wishing you a happy and safe 2021. In the Chinese calendar, 2020 is the year of the Rat, and 2021 the year of the Ox. Personally I have to say I prefer BS (that is something we are all used to) to the plague.
Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing the prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much input from the WG members. Therefore I would like to kick off a quick discussion round by asking both Desiree and Dick to post their visions of what they think the challenges and opportunities are in 2021 for the RIPE community with regards to governments and international organisations.
Julf
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are
On 15-12-2020 14:46, KEMOS Achilleas wrote: pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group,
launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the
discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen 2 week period.
We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed
interest for this post.
Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS@ec.europa.eu Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
Dear Group,
We have posted a call for third co-chair on Monday, November 30.
We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed interest.
For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week, until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc).
Julf & Achilleas
-----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-...
"The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs,
ideally from differing sectors, being ideal.
The process for selecting a new chair is as follows:
1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least
2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via
every three years, or whenever needed. the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s.
3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion. 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented candidates. 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a decision, based on mailing list discussion, as they would do for a policy proposal."
Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means interested parties have until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known.
A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely welcome!
Julf & Achilleas
On 5 Jan 2021, at 13:37, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia@gmail.com> wrote:
When considering who to cast your vote for, my suggestion is to think of whose background and experience best compliments Julf and Achilleas'. I can think of no better way to assess.
Indeed. But even then it is hard to choose. Both Des and Dick are excellent, well qualified candidates: equally good choices, albeit in different ways. I can’t pick between them. So I support both Dick and Des. FWIW we had a similar dilemma in the IoT WG last year: two strong and equally matched candidates for one vacancy.
Do any others feel similarly?
Yes. Though *please* remember this is RIPE takes decisions by consensus. We don’t vote. And you can express support for more than one candidate. IMO it’s very likely someone will end up tossing a coin to make the selection.
Is there a limit on the number of co-chairs a group can have? -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> Date: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 at 14:19 To: Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia@gmail.com> Cc: Cooperation Working Group <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> Subject: [cooperation-wg] WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion
On 5 Jan 2021, at 13:37, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia@gmail.com> wrote:
When considering who to cast your vote for, my suggestion is to think of whose background and experience best compliments Julf and Achilleas'. I can think of no better way to assess.
Indeed. But even then it is hard to choose. Both Des and Dick are excellent, well qualified candidates: equally good choices, albeit in different ways. I can’t pick between them. So I support both Dick and Des. FWIW we had a similar dilemma in the IoT WG last year: two strong and equally matched candidates for one vacancy.
Do any others feel similarly?
Yes. Though *please* remember this is RIPE takes decisions by consensus. We don’t vote. And you can express support for more than one candidate. IMO it’s very likely someone will end up tossing a coin to make the selection.
On 5 Jan 2021, at 14:34, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Is there a limit on the number of co-chairs a group can have?
Not really. There are no rules about this and that is how it should be. Each WG gets to choose how to organise itself and agree a charter. For coop, this says "The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs”. The general convention is a WG has 2 or 3 co-chairs. IMO 4 is excessive unless there’s a *very, very* busy WG. Three’s probably too many too*. In the good old days, there was just one WG Chair per WG with a backup/stand-in to cover for absences. Back then Rob Blokzijl wanted to have exactly one point of contact in each WG to keep things clear and simple. * As a data point, it takes far more to run an IETF WG than a RIPE WG: more meetings and conf calls, busier mailing lists, tracking/advancing wannabe RFCs, more process to follow, heavier workload, etc, etc. Offhand, I can’t think of any IETF WG - tls, quic, dnsop, httpbis and so on - which has >3 co-chairs.
Thank you so much for this Jim, and indeed, I clearly support both. Regarding consensus, I should have realised that, so thanks for clarifying. Best, -Michael On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 3:18 PM Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
On 5 Jan 2021, at 13:37, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia@gmail.com> wrote:
When considering who to cast your vote for, my suggestion is to think of whose background and experience best compliments Julf and Achilleas'. I can think of no better way to assess.
Indeed. But even then it is hard to choose. Both Des and Dick are excellent, well qualified candidates: equally good choices, albeit in different ways. I can’t pick between them. So I support both Dick and Des.
FWIW we had a similar dilemma in the IoT WG last year: two strong and equally matched candidates for one vacancy.
Do any others feel similarly?
Yes. Though *please* remember this is RIPE takes decisions by consensus. We don’t vote. And you can express support for more than one candidate.
IMO it’s very likely someone will end up tossing a coin to make the selection.
Dear all,
Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing the prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much input from the WG members.
both candidates are perfectly qualified and even though (or maybe: because) their track records differ, either one would be a good choice - and the mix even better. Therefore, I'll not express a preference and I'm not even convinced that we need to make that call. One doesn't have to be a chair to get the ball rolling and with that I'd suggest we take advantage of both Des' and Dick's contributions to the discussion to a) schedule a virtual interim for, say, some time Feb b) develop a work plan for 'raising our voices' c) start/continue discussion on this list
From my pov, we could have a 5-10 headed program committee, if that helps (the wg chairs collective puts a ceiling on the number of rep's - but that's a totally different governance issue).
The end of the year brought us intersting suggestions from Brussels(*) and elsewhere and - as was already mentioned - the technical community's recognition is challenged, so let's get together. (*) Europe is larger and wider than the EU and the RIPE community is even more global, indeed. I'm suggesting focus, not foreclosure. In the end, everybody will be faced with bright ideas. -Peter
All, I like what Peter writes below. Both candidates are good. I know both. And I am happy I am not one that have to make the selection :-) Ultimately it is all up to time and commitment. I know since I was co-chair for this WG (and other WGs and initiatives) that the chairs must be active, must set up meetings, and clear discussion items. Then when the ball gets rolling, they must direct the discussion, and shepherd the flock in an effective way so that the outcome is helpful for the community, for the participants, or whoever. And yes, its not EU, or even Europe. The RIPE Region is broader. Both candidates have experience with this, as the two current co-chairs. I am explicitly not diving into the mailing list records to look for how active the candidates, the current co-chairs, or other participants on this mailing list have been, but I think I know what the findings will be... Almost silent, then burst of messages, followed by silence. :-) What I think the co-chairs and the candidates can think about, and discuss, is how to manage to get this WG to do good stuff. That helps Marco and others (many of us) that do work within the charter of this WG. That discussion among smaller team might lead to the final good selection of whoever the co-chairs will be in the future. Good luck! To all of us ;-) Patrik On 5 Jan 2021, at 16:49, Peter Koch wrote:
Dear all,
Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing the prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much input from the WG members.
both candidates are perfectly qualified and even though (or maybe: because) their track records differ, either one would be a good choice - and the mix even better. Therefore, I'll not express a preference and I'm not even convinced that we need to make that call. One doesn't have to be a chair to get the ball rolling and with that I'd suggest we take advantage of both Des' and Dick's contributions to the discussion to
a) schedule a virtual interim for, say, some time Feb b) develop a work plan for 'raising our voices' c) start/continue discussion on this list
From my pov, we could have a 5-10 headed program committee, if that helps (the wg chairs collective puts a ceiling on the number of rep's - but that's a totally different governance issue).
The end of the year brought us intersting suggestions from Brussels(*) and elsewhere and - as was already mentioned - the technical community's recognition is challenged, so let's get together.
(*) Europe is larger and wider than the EU and the RIPE community is even more global, indeed. I'm suggesting focus, not foreclosure. In the end, everybody will be faced with bright ideas.
-Peter
Hi, On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 13:46 +0000, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
I have worked with Desiree in the past, and I fully support her as co- chair of this working group! Cheers, Sander
Hello, and my best wishes to you all for a healthy and prosperous 2021. I would like to second Sander's support for Desiree. I think she would make an excellent co-chair for this WG. Cheers, /Liman #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Lars-Johan Liman, M.Sc. ! E-mail: liman@netnod.se # Senior Systems Specialist ! Tel: +46 8 - 562 860 12 # Netnod Internet Exchange, Stockholm ! http://www.netnod.se/ #---------------------------------------------------------------------- sander@steffann.nl 2021-01-02 16:27 [+0100]:
Hi,
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 13:46 +0000, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
I have worked with Desiree in the past, and I fully support her as co- chair of this working group!
Cheers, Sander
2020 has really shown how reliant we all are on the Internet for everything that we do and that reliance will only increase in the years to come, no matter what a return to 'normal' will look like. As we can all see from the recent RIPE Lab articles that Governments/Regulators/Competent Authorities are drafting a whole new set of proposal's whilst tweaking existing ones, then of course there is the ongoing discussion about a new IP address protocol. So 2021 is more important than ever that the technical community has a voice. I would like to see the Cooperation WG and the RIPE community help to inform those discussions, of course working closely with the excellent work that the RIPE NCC are already doing in this space. During 2021 and for years to come, I would like to see the cooperation WG and RIPE community have far more interaction and meaningful discussions, not only between ourselves but with external stakeholders. I would work hard to make sure that these interactions were on a regular basis and not left just to the RIPE meetings, which would allow the RIPE community to have a more timely input. Also, allowing those of the community that may not normally have access to decision makers the opportunity to do so, no matter what part of the RIPE region they are from. I would also like to see more dialogue between the other RIR's (but that's another discussion for later on) With regards the question posed by Alex - I don't believe there is a conflict of interest with my employer and this position - Firstly, policies are not normally discussed in this group and secondly, having been involved in the RIPE community for many years I know that the robust policies and procedures that are in place will highlight if the community think there is - I trust the community. Cheers Dick On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 09:26, Lars-Johan Liman <liman@netnod.se> wrote:
Hello, and my best wishes to you all for a healthy and prosperous 2021.
I would like to second Sander's support for Desiree. I think she would make an excellent co-chair for this WG.
Cheers, /Liman #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Lars-Johan Liman, M.Sc. ! E-mail: liman@netnod.se # Senior Systems Specialist ! Tel: +46 8 - 562 860 12 # Netnod Internet Exchange, Stockholm ! http://www.netnod.se/ #----------------------------------------------------------------------
sander@steffann.nl 2021-01-02 16:27 [+0100]:
Hi,
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 13:46 +0000, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
Dear Group, Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
- Desiree Miloshevic - Richard Leaning
I have worked with Desiree in the past, and I fully support her as co- chair of this working group!
Cheers, Sander
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participants (13)
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Desiree Miloshevic -
Desiree Miloshevic -
Elad Cohen -
Jim Reid -
Johan Helsingius -
KEMOS Achilleas -
Lars-Johan Liman -
Michael J. Oghia -
Michele Neylon - Blacknight -
Patrik Fältström -
Peter Koch -
Richard Leaning -
Sander Steffann