Ongoing discussion of RIPE Chair & Vice Chair selection by Nominating Committee
I would like to draw your attention to the ongoing discussion on the ripe-chair-discuss list. The proposals were discussed in the BOF last night and there were good support in the room for the latest version. You can find the archives at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/thread.h... The latest version of the two proposals are at The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h... The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h... Please join the discussion at the ripe-chair-discuss list. https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-chair-discuss When the discussion phase has completed I will initiate a last call on this list, before declaring consensus. Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair -- -- Hans Petter Holen Mobile +47 45 06 60 54 | hph@oslo.net | http://hph.oslo.net
The discussion has now come to an end. There has been no comments to the latest version during the more than four weeks since the discussion at the RIPE meeting. It is time for me to call for consensus on The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h... The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h... This phase will be for another four weeks to end on 4 August. This consensus call is about the normative part of the document. As indicated in the drafts itself some appendices still need to be written and some other non-normative parts like the IETF copyright are still to be completed. The RIPE NCC board has a role in the process. I raised this point at the last board meeting, and the RIPE NCC Executive Board noted its willingness to take on that role described in the process. Once the RIPE Chair election procedure will be adopted by the community, I expect that the RIPE NCC Executive Board will pass a formal resolution to accept their role in the process. Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:47, Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> wrote:
I would like to draw your attention to the ongoing discussion on the ripe-chair-discuss list.
The proposals were discussed in the BOF last night and there were good support in the room for the latest version.
You can find the archives at:
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/thread.h...
The latest version of the two proposals are at
The Chair Selection Process
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
Please join the discussion at the ripe-chair-discuss list. https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-chair-discuss
When the discussion phase has completed I will initiate a last call on this list, before declaring consensus.
Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair
-- Sincerely, Hans Petter Holen - hph@oslo.net - +47 45066054
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
i consent :) randy
Hans Petter, I think we're in a very good place on this and I definitely think it's the right way forward. Thanks, Brian Brian Nisbet, Service Operations Manager, HEAnet ________________________________ From: ripe-list <ripe-list-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 12:51:06 PM To: Hans Petter Holen Cc: ripe-list@ripe.net Subject: Re: [ripe-list] Call for consensus RIPE Chair & Vice Chair selection by Nominating Committee
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
i consent :) randy
On 04.07.2019 12:17, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
I consent -- Arnold Nipper Chief Technology Evangelist and Co-Founder DE-CIX Management GmbH Lindleystr. 12, 60314 Frankfurt (Germany) phone: +49 69 1730902 22 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 69 4056 2716 e-mail: arnold.nipper@de-cix.net web: www.de-cix.net DE-CIX Management GmbH Executive Directors: Harald A. Summa and Sebastian Seifert Trade registry: District court (Amtsgericht) Cologne, HRB 51135 Registered office: Lichtstr. 43i, 50825 Cologne
* The Chair Selection Process * https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h... * The RIPE Nominating Committee * https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h... My support. Regards, Erik Bais From: ripe-list <ripe-list-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> Reply-To: "hph@oslo.net" <hph@oslo.net> Date: Thursday 4 July 2019 at 12:18 To: "ripe-list@ripe.net" <ripe-list@ripe.net> Subject: [ripe-list] Call for consensus RIPE Chair & Vice Chair selection by Nominating Committee The discussion has now come to an end. There has been no comments to the latest version during the more than four weeks since the discussion at the RIPE meeting. It is time for me to call for consensus on The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h... The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h... This phase will be for another four weeks to end on 4 August. This consensus call is about the normative part of the document. As indicated in the drafts itself some appendices still need to be written and some other non-normative parts like the IETF copyright are still to be completed. The RIPE NCC board has a role in the process. I raised this point at the last board meeting, and the RIPE NCC Executive Board noted its willingness to take on that role described in the process. Once the RIPE Chair election procedure will be adopted by the community, I expect that the RIPE NCC Executive Board will pass a formal resolution to accept their role in the process. Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:47, Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net<mailto:hph@oslo.net>> wrote: I would like to draw your attention to the ongoing discussion on the ripe-chair-discuss list. The proposals were discussed in the BOF last night and there were good support in the room for the latest version. You can find the archives at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/thread.h... The latest version of the two proposals are at The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h... The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h... Please join the discussion at the ripe-chair-discuss list. https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-chair-discuss When the discussion phase has completed I will initiate a last call on this list, before declaring consensus. Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair -- Sincerely, Hans Petter Holen - hph@oslo.net<mailto:hph@oslo.net> - +47 45066054
I support this as well. Thanks for the good work! Wolfgang
On 4. Jul 2019, at 12:17, Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> wrote:
The discussion has now come to an end. There has been no comments to the latest version during the more than four weeks since the discussion at the RIPE meeting.
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
-- Wolfgang Tremmel Phone +49 69 1730902 0 | wolfgang.tremmel@de-cix.net Executive Directors: Harald A. Summa and Sebastian Seifert | Trade Registry: AG Cologne, HRB 51135 DE-CIX Management GmbH | Lindleystrasse 12 | 60314 Frankfurt am Main | Germany | www.de-cix.net
Count me in as one of the consenting adults. Thanks to everyone involved! Julf On 04-07-19 12:17, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
The discussion has now come to an end. There has been no comments to the latest version during the more than four weeks since the discussion at the RIPE meeting.
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
This phase will be for another four weeks to end on 4 August.
This consensus call is about the normative part of the document. As indicated in the drafts itself some appendices still need to be written and some other non-normative parts like the IETF copyright are still to be completed.
The RIPE NCC board has a role in the process. I raised this point at the last board meeting, and the RIPE NCC Executive Board noted its willingness to take on that role described in the process.
Once the RIPE Chair election procedure will be adopted by the community, I expect that the RIPE NCC Executive Board will pass a formal resolution to accept their role in the process.
Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair
On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:47, Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net <mailto:hph@oslo.net>> wrote:
I would like to draw your attention to the ongoing discussion on the ripe-chair-discuss list.
The proposals were discussed in the BOF last night and there were good support in the room for the latest version.
You can find the archives at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/thread.h...
The latest version of the two proposals are at
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
Please join the discussion at the ripe-chair-discuss list. https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-chair-discuss
When the discussion phase has completed I will initiate a last call on this list, before declaring consensus.
Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair
-- Sincerely, Hans Petter Holen - hph@oslo.net <mailto:hph@oslo.net> - +47 45066054
Count me in as one of the consenting adults.
adults!?! i did not know that was required. :( randy
On 4 Jul 2019, at 11:17, Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> wrote:
The discussion has now come to an end. There has been no comments to the latest version during the more than four weeks since the discussion at the RIPE meeting.
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
I support the process described above and am in favour of its adoption.
I support the process and the documents. Best regards, /Liman -- #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Lars-Johan Liman, M.Sc. ! E-mail: liman@netnod.se # Senior Systems Specialist ! Tel: +46 8 - 562 860 12 # Netnod Internet Exchange, Stockholm ! http://www.netnod.se/ #---------------------------------------------------------------------- hph@oslo.net:
The discussion has now come to an end. There has been no comments to the latest version during the more than four weeks since the discussion at the RIPE meeting.
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
This phase will be for another four weeks to end on 4 August.
This consensus call is about the normative part of the document. As indicated in the drafts itself some appendices still need to be written and some other non-normative parts like the IETF copyright are still to be completed.
The RIPE NCC board has a role in the process. I raised this point at the last board meeting, and the RIPE NCC Executive Board noted its willingness to take on that role described in the process.
Once the RIPE Chair election procedure will be adopted by the community, I expect that the RIPE NCC Executive Board will pass a formal resolution to accept their role in the process.
Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair
On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:47, Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> wrote:
I would like to draw your attention to the ongoing discussion on the ripe-chair-discuss list.
The proposals were discussed in the BOF last night and there were good support in the room for the latest version.
You can find the archives at:
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/thread.h...
The latest version of the two proposals are at
The Chair Selection Process
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
Please join the discussion at the ripe-chair-discuss list. https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-chair-discuss
When the discussion phase has completed I will initiate a last call on this list, before declaring consensus.
Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair
-- Sincerely, Hans Petter Holen - hph@oslo.net - +47 45066054
On 04/07/2019 11:17, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
I think it's the best we are likely to achieve. Go for it. Nigel
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 12:17:40PM +0200, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
The Chair Selection Process https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
I support the architecture of the process and the gist and spirit of the documents. The community should be able to fill the two initial positions well by implementing the described procedures. The approach to stick very closely to the text of RFC 7437 leads to some ambiguities that the initial NomCom might want to seek to resolve. Any such attempt will benefit significantly from experience with the IETF's NomCom procedure - and practice. -Peter
On 25 Jul 2019, at 15:41, Peter Koch wrote:
The approach to stick very closely to the text of RFC 7437 leads to some ambiguities that the initial NomCom might want to seek to resolve.
Anything we should fix now?
Dear all, I also support the current proposed documents and am happy that they are modelled on existing working processes from communities with which RIPE has a good affinity.
On 29 Jul 2019, at 15:19, Daniel Karrenberg <dfk@ripe.net> wrote:
On 25 Jul 2019, at 15:41, Peter Koch wrote:
The approach to stick very closely to the text of RFC 7437 leads to some ambiguities that the initial NomCom might want to seek to resolve.
Anything we should fix now?
I don’t see any. There have been questions around details of the IETF process, such as the recent questions of whether the NomCom Chair’s (or even its prior chair) primary affiliation count against the limit on the number of members sharing primary affiliation in the noncom, but I have no idea how likely that is to happen in practice and would suggest that we observe how the deliberations at the IETF progress while we at RIPE get our own instance of process established and executed. Joao
We are now well past the end of the call for consensus and I have seen only support for the proposal. I conclude that we now have reached consensus. A licencing agreement for reusing BCP10 text is in place. The documents will now be published as RIPE documents, and we can start the process. Based on our experience using the process and future IETF experience, the community may revise the document after the first selection has been made. Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 at 12:17, Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> wrote:
The discussion has now come to an end. There has been no comments to the latest version during the more than four weeks since the discussion at the RIPE meeting.
It is time for me to call for consensus on
The Chair Selection Process
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
This phase will be for another four weeks to end on 4 August.
This consensus call is about the normative part of the document. As indicated in the drafts itself some appendices still need to be written and some other non-normative parts like the IETF copyright are still to be completed.
The RIPE NCC board has a role in the process. I raised this point at the last board meeting, and the RIPE NCC Executive Board noted its willingness to take on that role described in the process.
Once the RIPE Chair election procedure will be adopted by the community, I expect that the RIPE NCC Executive Board will pass a formal resolution to accept their role in the process.
Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair
On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:47, Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> wrote:
I would like to draw your attention to the ongoing discussion on the ripe-chair-discuss list.
The proposals were discussed in the BOF last night and there were good support in the room for the latest version.
You can find the archives at:
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/thread.h...
The latest version of the two proposals are at
The Chair Selection Process
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000262.h...
The RIPE Nominating Committee
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/2019-May/000263.h...
Please join the discussion at the ripe-chair-discuss list. https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-chair-discuss
When the discussion phase has completed I will initiate a last call on this list, before declaring consensus.
Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair
-- Sincerely, Hans Petter Holen - hph@oslo.net - +47 45066054
-- Sincerely, Hans Petter Holen - hph@oslo.net - +47 45066054
Hurray 😁
thanks hph. good progress. randy
participants (13)
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Arnold Nipper -
Brian Nisbet -
Daniel Karrenberg -
Erik Bais -
Hans Petter Holen -
Jim Reid -
Joao Luis Silva Damas -
Johan Helsingius -
Lars-Johan Liman -
Nigel Titley -
Peter Koch -
Randy Bush -
Wolfgang Tremmel