September 1998 - tld-wg - mailman.ripe.net

?:? .FLIA
by JimFleming＠unety.net 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

Walter, It would help if you would put the TLD that you are interested in, in the Subject line. Also, from what I understand AURSC is mostly focused on Australia. You might want to get more people from the RIPE or G3 region involved. Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com End-2-End: VPC(Java)---C+ at ---<IPv8>---C+ at ---(Java)VPC http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://www.ddj.com/index/author/idx10133.htm -----Original Message----- From: wbrun at thepla.net <wbrun at thepla.net> To: aursc at lists.ah.net <aursc at lists.ah.net> Date: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 8:50 AM Subject: [ AURSC ] Application for TLD's ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AURSC Information and User Mail List. Open. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AURSC Information and User Mail List. Open. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >TLD .ONG >TLD .NGO >TLD .RED >TLD .GOB >TLD .MRA >TLD .RTM >.FlY Three letter code for world wide tourism themes.. >These looks fine to me. Not ISO. >.OLE Three letter code spanish tourism themes. >Nice to see my suggestion! Thanks:-) >.FLIA Four letter code for Family in Spanish. >I am currently aware of a .FAM being claimed by another non IRSC member >RSC. It might bee seen that having two like TLDs could be a >disadvantage to Global uniformity. I still think that 400,000,000 Spanish Speakers may feel more identified and confortable with .FLIA than with .FAM. FLIA does not clash with others TLD's and is lets said "cultural appropiate" :-0. I do not think that will pose competition. eg: pedro at gonzalez.flia will be more attractive to the consumer in this instance. >.PLANET Six letter code for users of free web base email services of >ThePlaNet CyberGate. >AURSC policy does not support the use of propriatary TLDs. There is >nothing stopping ThePlaNet from using the TLD inside it's own network >for local use - although .local is recommended. This will be a global free web based email and is relevant to the service. We do not own the PLANET (but we can contibute with it! ) >AURSC members are invited to comment. Especially those who have been >rejected on this policy previously. >TLD >.AND Three letter code for Andorra >.ARG Three letter code for Argentina >.BLZ Three letter code for Belize >.BOL Three letter code for Bolivia >.BRA Three letter code for Brasil >.CHL Three letter code for Chile >.COL Three letter code for Colombia >.CRI Three letter code for Costa Rica >.CUB Three letter code for Cuba >.ECU Three letter code for Ecuador >.ESP Three letter code for Espaqa (Spain) >.GTM Three letter code for Guatemala >.MAC Three letter code for Macao (Macau??) >.MEX Three letter code for Mixico >.PRY Three letter code for Paraguay >.PRT Three letter code for Portugal >.PRI Three letter code for Puerto Rico These are all 3 letter ISO codes. AURSC suports the use of these only for local country of origin. The policy submitted as special conditions relects this (see original posting) so I have no problem >.ESV Three letter code for El Salvador >.FLP Three letter code for Filipinas >.ISM Three letter code for Islas Malvinas (FALKLAND Islands) >.NCG Alternative three letter code for Nicaragua >.PVO Three letter code for Pais Vasco (Vasc Country) >.PAN Three letter code for Panama >.PRU Three letter code for Perz >.RDO Three letter code for Repzblica Dominicana >.TIM Three letter code for Timor del Este (East Timor) >.TRT Three letter code for Trinidad y Tobago >.URU Three letter code for Uruguay >.VEN Three letter code for Venezuela >>I don't have these listed?? muhhhhh...Somehow I got them mixed up ;( Lets stick to the ISO for those countries). >.HON Three letter code for Honduras >Honduras is actually HDN >.NGUA Four letter code for Nicaragua >I don't think this is necessary. We withdraw the request. >.EEUU Four letter code for Estados Unidos (U.S.A) Spanish >convention to abbreviate USA. Ideal for the 40 million Spanish Speakers >in the US.I need more comments on this. I'm not familiar with the >code. Try this: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ on the dialog box type: U.S.A U.S. United States Of America. Then select: English to Spanish, and you will get some peace of mind !(and a friendly translator:-)) Walter wbrun at thepla.net ============================================== Why surf a pond? when you can surf ThePlaNet ! 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2:141 .PLANET
by JimFleming＠unety.net 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

-----Original Message----- From: Terra Communications <wbrun at thepla.net> <snip> >again! Sorry folks no room. > > >Walter >wbrun at thepla.net If you are concerned that there is no room in IPv8, I suggest that you check out IPv4 and RIPE. With 2,048 "seats", IPv8 will handle about 10 times as many TLDs as are currently in the legacy Root Name Servers. This is 10 times more than some people would like to see. While I agree that there really is no limit, because of technology we have to set the boundaries at some reasonable point. If you like think of it like a large auditorium with 2,048 seats. There are logistics to getting people in and out and most importantly to making sure they do not collide. I suggest that people focus on taking one seat at a time to make sure there is room for other people that want a seat. The 8 large regions just help to keep things organized, as it turns out, .PLANET is in G2 and not G3. That may suit you better because G2 started with an emphasis on South America which has many spanish speaking people. 2:141 PLANET Keep in mind that domain names are only part of the challenge ahead. The other goal is to spread the IPv8 address resources around. With the .PLANET TLD the TLD authority can now start to sell, lease or give away IPv8 addresses in the 32-bit block with the following range. 2:141.X.X.X.X. This is an address space as large as the ENTIRE current IPv4 Internet. It will need to be managed well. IN-ADDR.PLANET should be used for reverse delegations in the DNS. If you need any help, there are more and more people familiar with the DNS and the Internet in general. I hope to see your involvement grow and I hope that you help others to get involved. The key to the Internet is to try to help keep it expanding. We also have to try to avoid having all of the resources being captured by a small elite group. That will only happen if many people work to fairly distribute the resources. Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com End-2-End: VPC(Java)---C+ at ---<IPv8>---C+ at ---(Java)VPC http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://www.ddj.com/index/author/idx10133.htm -------- Logged at Wed Sep 9 16:24:04 MET DST 1998 ---------

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[ AURSC ] Application for New TLD's
by JimFleming＠unety.net 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

One really has to admire people with open minds. Hopefully, history will remember who they are. Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com End-2-End: VPC(Java)---C+ at ---<IPv8>---C+ at ---(Java)VPC http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://www.ddj.com/index/author/idx10133.htm -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Karrenberg <Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net> To: W.Sylwestrzak at icm.edu.pl <wojsyl1 at icm.edu.pl> Cc: Hank Nussbacher <hank at ibm.net.il>; tld-wg at ripe.net <tld-wg at ripe.net> Date: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 4:50 AM Subject: Re: [ AURSC ] Application for New TLD's > >Filtering the RIPE WG lists has been suggested earlier. In the discussions >there was consensus that content or sender based filters are a dangerous >proposition because the RIPE WG should be as open as possible. Therefore >we currently filter only messages which are clearly commercial spam. > >I personally think that it is much better if everyone decides indicidually >whether to read particular messages. I for one completely filter anything >from Jim Fleming. > >Daniel > > > "W.Sylwestrzak at icm.edu.pl" <wojsyl1 at icm.edu.pl> writes: > > > > Well, wouldn't it be more efficient to filter such things at the listserv > > instead then ? I'm sure it would safe many people lots of time ... > > > > Or isn't it possible to exclude certain emails from some mailing lists > > for excessive off-topic postings, if this is the case ? > > That would be a normal practice and would be favoured by people > > subscribing to focused discussion lists, such as RIPE WG lists. > > > > shouldn't be a hard thing to do ... > -------- Logged at Wed Sep 9 16:21:55 MET DST 1998 ---------

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[ AURSC ] Application for New TLD's
by hank＠ibm.net.il 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

At 11:23 AM 9/9/98 +0200, W.Sylwestrzak at icm.edu.pl wrote: >Er, what are you talking about ? >what is all this G3, IPv8 etc ? never heard about it ... IPv8 is a figment of Jim's imagination. People see his emails and begin to think that perhaps there is some technology they missed in their reading, so they ask around, and Jim is more than happy to reply. Think about someone who places a URL of 5 and 12 year old technical books in his sig that he once wrote. Most people on the Internet have him in their email filters so as not to see his stuff since it proves to be a large waste of time. -Hank > >--w > >> >> >> The answer to your first question is... >> the TLD authorities in G3...I have not >> looked at G3 lately but many of the TLDs >> in the European region were in there. I >> have copied some of the people that >> might have an interest. If I recall, there >> were some new people added for >> Poland. I am not sure where they stand. >> That is for the people in that region to >> work out. This is what self-governance >> is all about. >> >> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt >> >> I am not sure there is one web site for >> G3 or one e-mail address. In theory >> there should be about 256 of them. >> You should be able to query the DNS >> to find all of the G3 info, just like G6. >> >> G3 self-governance will depend on the >> TLD authorities in that region. If they >> work together they will have a nice >> neighbor net situation. They can start >> selling, leasing, or giving away IPv8 >> addresses to be used with IPv6 now, >> once they have their G:S number. >> >> If they make a mess of it, that is their >> mess. C'est la vie. >> >> >> Jim Fleming >> Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com >> End-2-End: VPC(Java)---C+ at ---<IPv8>---C+ at ---(Java)VPC >> http://www.ddj.com/index/author/idx10133.htm >> UNETY Systems, Inc. - http://www.unety.net >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -------- Logged at Wed Sep 9 11:44:13 MET DST 1998 ---------

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[ AURSC ] Application for New TLD's
by hank＠ibm.net.il 09 Sep '98

09 Sep '98

At 11:45 AM 9/9/98 +0200, W.Sylwestrzak at icm.edu.pl wrote: >Hank Nussbacher >> >> At 11:23 AM 9/9/98 +0200, W.Sylwestrzak at icm.edu.pl wrote: >> >Er, what are you talking about ? >> >what is all this G3, IPv8 etc ? never heard about it ... >> >> IPv8 is a figment of Jim's imagination. People see his emails and begin to >> think that perhaps there is some technology they missed in their reading, so >> they ask around, and Jim is more than happy to reply. Think about someone >> who places a URL of 5 and 12 year old technical books in his sig that he >> once wrote. Most people on the Internet have him in their email filters so >> as not to see his stuff since it proves to be a large waste of time. >> >> -Hank >> > >Well, wouldn't it be more efficient to filter such things at the listserv >instead then ? I'm sure it would safe many people lots of time ... > >Or isn't it possible to exclude certain emails from some mailing lists >for excessive off-topic postings, if this is the case ? >That would be a normal practice and would be favoured by people >subscribing to focused discussion lists, such as RIPE WG lists. > >shouldn't be a hard thing to do ... APNIC did that about 3 months ago. I would not be against it for RIPE lists. -Hank >--w > > -------- Logged at Wed Sep 9 11:49:20 MET DST 1998 ---------

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The State of ccTLDs
by richard＠sexton.com 08 Sep '98

08 Sep '98

At 07:57 PM 9/7/98 -0500, Jim Fleming wrote: >It looks like the ORSC and the other RSCs >will have their work cut out for them just to >get the legacy TLDs documented. > >@@@@@ http://www.apng.org/apcctld/minutes/inaugural.html > >"6. Comments from ITU >Bob Shaw, ITU. Research on Domains. >Mr. Shaw's department had surveyed 220+ ccTLD administrators, >contacting people by email, phone, fax and even telex, to try and >identify who is the correct contact point for each ccTLD and record >their address details. Current records of ccTLD administrative >contacts are woefully out of date, and it is important that accurate >records of who is the primary contact for ccTLDs is maintained. > >The data collected has been sent to the IANA, and is currently >available from as a database of >"Internet ISO 3166-Based Top Level Domains". This resource will be >linked from the APccTLD web site" I understand there will be a more comprehensive report soon, but not from Bob's "department". It will include ALL tld's. As Bob has discovered, there are many ccTLDs with no contact information whatsoever. 11 I believe. I think there is also one ctlsd withonly one nameserver listed and one with only one working. It's interesting to note that the technical requirements the new tld community has set for itself far exceeds the vast majority of cctlds. I don't mean to slag anybody, I'm just pointing this out. -- "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. " - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) -------- Logged at Tue Sep 8 19:06:55 MET DST 1998 ---------

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ccTLDs to Pay IANA
by JimFleming＠unety.net 08 Sep '98

08 Sep '98

Will the ccTLDs have to pay to be part of the ORSC ? @@@@ http://www.apng.org/apcctld/minutes/inaugural.html "Fay Howard, RIPE CENTR Project Manager" ... "However, ccTLD registries operate under local jurisdiction and receive quite limited services from the IANA --maintenance of their TLD in the root server-- , but do realize they will have to pay something towards the new IANA." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com End-2-End: VPC(Java)---C+ at ---<IPv8>---C+ at ---(Java)VPC http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://www.ddj.com/index/author/idx10133.htm -------- Logged at Tue Sep 8 19:06:05 MET DST 1998 ---------

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ccTLDs to Pay IANA
by richard＠sexton.com 08 Sep '98

08 Sep '98

At 08:08 PM 9/7/98 -0500, Jim Fleming wrote: >Will the ccTLDs have to pay to be part >of the ORSC ? > >@@@@ http://www.apng.org/apcctld/minutes/inaugural.html > >"Fay Howard, RIPE CENTR Project Manager" >... >"However, ccTLD registries operate under local jurisdiction >and receive quite limited services from the IANA --maintenance of their >TLD in the root server-- , but do realize they will have to pay >something towards the new IANA." Not at this time. It's expected a nominal membership fee may be imposed at some point. The numbers that have been suggestd ar in the $35 - $100 range, $1000 for corporate membership, but nothing is final. -- "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. " - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) -------- Logged at Tue Sep 8 19:06:56 MET DST 1998 ---------

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IANA ccTLD Contracts ?
by JimFleming＠unety.net 08 Sep '98

08 Sep '98

Has anyone seen one of these ccTLD contracts from the IANA ? @@@@@ http://www.apng.org/apcctld/minutes/inaugural.html "10. Report on Domainz, New Zealand, Patrick O'Brien, Chief Executive, Domainz" ... "* Obtain a contract to operate the ccTLD. Important to agents and customers that the registry has a firm contract with the new IANA." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com End-2-End: VPC(Java)---C+ at ---<IPv8>---C+ at ---(Java)VPC http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://www.ddj.com/index/author/idx10133.htm -------- Logged at Tue Sep 8 19:07:00 MET DST 1998 ---------

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The State of ccTLDs
by JimFleming＠unety.net 08 Sep '98

08 Sep '98

It looks like the ORSC and the other RSCs will have their work cut out for them just to get the legacy TLDs documented. @@@@@ http://www.apng.org/apcctld/minutes/inaugural.html "6. Comments from ITU Bob Shaw, ITU. Research on Domains. Mr. Shaw's department had surveyed 220+ ccTLD administrators, contacting people by email, phone, fax and even telex, to try and identify who is the correct contact point for each ccTLD and record their address details. Current records of ccTLD administrative contacts are woefully out of date, and it is important that accurate records of who is the primary contact for ccTLDs is maintained. The data collected has been sent to the IANA, and is currently available from as a database of "Internet ISO 3166-Based Top Level Domains". This resource will be linked from the APccTLD web site" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com End-2-End: VPC(Java)---C+ at ---<IPv8>---C+ at ---(Java)VPC http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://www.ddj.com/index/author/idx10133.htm -------- Logged at Tue Sep 8 19:05:21 MET DST 1998 ---------

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