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I'm not IN next week.
by Arife Vural 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

Hi guys, I'll be in London for training next week and most probably I could not read my RIPE NCC inbox. If you would need anything from me, please contact with me by personal e-mail or by phone, E-mail: arife(a)xs4all.nl Phone: +31 61 471 8561 Vasco will continue to check RIS inbox as he usually does. But, he might need some help about some user request. For those cases, if you guys, Matthew and James, can give a hand to him, I will be really appreaciated. Arife

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Re: [ris-int] Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX
by Paul Vixie 20 Aug '04

20 Aug '04

> > > i think i can do this. i'm working with the paix people now. > > I was wondering whether there is any progress about this issue. yes. after a brief scare, the new owners of PAIX ("switch and data") have decided not to throw ISC out of their facility after all. now, all that remains is to negotiate for another port on their switching fabric. it's likely that this will be granted. > If you could provide me the address to deliver the RIS box, I would > contact MAE-West people to arrange the delivery to PAIX. the best thing is if you have the mae-west people contact peter losher, who operates the f-root node at mae-west and who has therefore seen your host since we're in the same lab. peter will want to take your box back to ISC and then move it to a PAIX-connected location later on. it could be that we'll put it at PAIX, but it could also be that we'll put it at "200 paul" which also has PAIX connectivity. "200 paul" is where our other RIPE-owned box (204.152.184.211) is located. cc'ing plosher so he'll know what's going on.

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Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX
by Paul Vixie 19 Aug '04

19 Aug '04

i think i can do this. i'm working with the paix people now. > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:03:34 +0200 > From: Arife Vural <arife(a)ripe.net> > To: vixie(a)isc.org, joao(a)isc.org, paul(a)vix.com > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > Subject: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX > User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i > X-Organization: RIPE Network Coordination Centre > X-FCOPY: arife(a)ripe.net > X-Phone: +31 20 535 4490 > X-Fax: +31 20 535 4445 > X-WWW: http://www.ripe.net > X-Operating-System: Linux x12 2.4.26 > X-RIPE-Spam-Level: > X-RIPE-Spam-Status: N 0.000000 / 0.0 / 0.0 / disabled > X-RIPE-Signature: 8eb633018b90ef9d380ed3af8868775b > > > Hi Joao, Paul, > > My name is Arife Vural. I'm working as Network Engineer for RIPE NCC RIS > (Routing Information Service) Project. We have remote route collectors > around the world to collect BGP routing data. > > Lately, the box we have at MAE-West is not as functional as we aimed. We > could not get enough peers there. Because of that we are looking for a new > place for RRC box on West coast. PAIX looks like a good choice for us by > looking at number of members and also network infrastructure. We are just > wondering whether you would help us to locate RIS box at PAIX. To do this, > we would need help at the beginning to install the box and do the network > connection. Other than that, we also need a transit provider to reach the > box. > > I'll be appreciated if you could get back to us whether you could help > or not about relocating the RIS box at PAIX. > > Kind regards. > Arife

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RE: myASn in training
by Matthew Williams 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

> > Hi Matthew, all, > > let's meet to talk about it :) Will you make the C-time entry? > Will do. Who should be there? Arife, Arno, you and I? > On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:04:00 +0200 > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> wrote: > > > [thanks for the hook-up, Rumy] > > > > Hi Vesna, > > > > Arife should be included on this too. > > > > > Vesna: could you discuss this with Matthew (and if necessary > > > Arno and/or > > > Ferenc) and let me know what your thoughts are? > > > > Include a section in rr training? > > > > We already have one slide in the RR course about the myASn; > sometimes we used to show the demo (but I think my account > expired...). Nope, should be okay unless you're trying to access the old prototype. > > We can maybe change that -- depending on how much attention > you want to give to this service, and how much space we can > "free-up" in the curent course, and how it fits with the rest > of topics.. > > Personally, I would prefere if we can do some hands-on with > the "myASn", but that would require opening 20 (or 5?) > demo-accounts for each course, thinking of the tasks to give > to the participants (or sub-groups), deciding what are the > most useful features to let them see/practice, how much time > it takes to do all that etc... > > I guess this brain-dump puts some of the topics on the agenda > for the meeting :) Fine. Cheers, Matthew > > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > > ciao, > becha > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rumy Kanis [mailto:rumy@ripe.net] > > > Sent: 17 August 2004 13:55 > > > To: Matthew Williams; 'Rumy Kanis'; becha(a)ripe.net > > > Cc: 'Henk Uijterwaal'; 'Matthew Williams' > > > Subject: myASn in training > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthew, > > > > > > I am sort of getting back up to speed again :-) but still > > > drowning in my mails. > > > > > > I am including Vesna in this reply, I think it would be best > > > if you discuss > > > this with her. Vesna has the overall responsibility over the > > > different > > > training courses and their content (Arno has > responsibility over the > > > advanced courses, Ferenc over the LIR). Vesna will have a good > > > understanding of whether this fits into one of our trainings > > > and if so, > > > into which one and in what format. > > > > > > Vesna: could you discuss this with Matthew (and if necessary > > > Arno and/or > > > Ferenc) and let me know what your thoughts are? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Rumy > > > > > > > > > At 02:37 PM 7/29/2004 +0200, Matthew Williams wrote: > > > >Hi Rumy, > > > > > > > >I see that you're on VAC until mid-Aug. Please get back > to me when > > > >you're > > > >up to speed again. > > > > > > > >Hope hols were relaxing :) > > > > > > > >Cheers, > > > >Matthew > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Matthew Williams [mailto:matthew@ripe.net] > > > > > Sent: 22 July 2004 18:02 > > > > > To: 'Rumy Kanis' > > > > > Cc: 'Henk Uijterwaal' > > > > > Subject: FW: Announcement Routing Registry Training Courses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rumy, > > > > > > > > > > Henk suggested that I get in touch with you about > > > including a myASn > > > > > section into one of your trainings. Version 1 will be > > > ready before > > > > > the next RIPE meeting. Any thoughts? ;) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: routing-wg-admin(a)ripe.net > > > [mailto:routing-wg-admin@ripe.net] > > > > > > On Behalf Of RIPE NCC Training > > > > > > Sent: 21 July 2004 16:27 > > > > > > To: local-ir(a)ripe.net; db-wg(a)ripe.net; routing-wg(a)ripe.net; > > > > > > irrtoolset(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Subject: Announcement Routing Registry Training Courses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > > > > > > > [apologies for duplicate postings] > > > > > > > > > > > > As a service to its members the RIPE NCC offers the "Routing > > > > > > Registry Training Course". > > > > > > > > > > > > The main objective of the "Routing Registry Training > > > Course" is to > > > > > > familiarise the LIRs with the features of the Routing > > > > > > Registry, > > > > > > while introducing the relevant tools and services of > > > the RIPE NCC. > > > > > > The course also offers practical exercises. > > > > > > > > > > > > OVERVIEW OF TOPICS COVERED IN THE COURSE: > > > > > > - Routing Registry as a part of the RIPE Whois Database and > > > > > > the > > > > > > Internet Routing Registry (IRR) > > > > > > - Specifying routing policies using (RPSL) > > > > > > Routing Policy Specification Language and the RtConfig tool > > > > > > - IRRToolSet > > > > > > - Routing Information Service (RIS) > > > > > > - Routing Registry Consistency Check Project > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that this is an advanced course. It will: > > > > > > - NOT teach the basics of routing > > > > > > - NOT teach the basics of RIPE Database operations, > > > > > > - NOT describe how to receive Internet resources from > > > the RIPE NCC > > > > > > - NOT describe how to operate a Local Internet > Registry (LIR) > > > > > > > > > > > > The target audience of the course are technical staff of > > > > > > LIRs: e.g. network operators, engineers etc. This course is > > > > > > not > > > > > > intended for administrative or management staff (e.g. > > > > > > Hostmasters) . It is assumed that all attendees will be > > > > > familiar with > > > > > > Border Gateway Protocol routing and with the RIPE > > > Database (i.e. > > > > > > creating/modifying objects). > > > > > > > > > > > > This course is based on interactive exercises in a > > > local network > > > > > > set-up. Please bring your laptops equipped with the > > > > > following: > > > > > > - A working Ethernet card, > > > > > > - Three meters of Ethernet cable, > > > > > > - A secure connection client, > > > > > > - A web browser. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please be prepared to share your laptop (or at least > > > allow another > > > > > > attendee to "look over your shoulder") if necessary. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Routing Registry Training Course is conducted in > > > the English > > > > > > language and is free of charge, since it is covered by the > > > > > > membership fee. > > > > > > > > > > > > More information about the Routing Registry Training > > > Course can be > > > > > > found > > > > > > at: http://www.ripe.net/training/rr/ > > > > > > > > > > > > REGISTRATION: > > > > > > > > > > > > You can register for a Routing Registry Training > Course at the > > > > > > following URL: > http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/trainingform.pl.cgi > > > > > > > > > > > > Or by completing the registration form at the end of > > > this e-mail > > > > > > and replying to <training(a)ripe.net> . In order to > > > register for a > > > > > > Routing Registry Training Course you must be an > > > employee of an LIR > > > > > > and either: > > > > > > - be an LIR contact > > > > > > - be confirmed by an LIR contact > > > > > > > > > > > > LIR contacts are those employees of an LIR who are > > > registered with > > > > > > RIPE NCC as authoritative contact persons. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is expected that most of those interested in the Routing > > > > > > Registry Training Course will not be an > authoritative contact > > > > > > person for their LIR, and therefore will be, refused by > > > the course > > > > > > registration "robot". In order to be admitted to > the course, a > > > > > > confirmation e-mail must be sent to > <training(a)ripe.net>. Please > > > > > > approach the LIR contacts from your organisation personally, > > > > > > since the identity of LIR contacts is confidential, and the > > > > > > RIPE NCC is > > > > > > unable to divulge contact persons for any given LIR. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Training Team > > > > > > RIPE NCC > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > > > > > > ************** > > > > > > > > > > > > COURSE DATES AND VENUES > > > > > > ======================== > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday 15 October 2004 > > > > > > Time: 0900 - 1700 > > > > > > Location: Geneva, Switzerland > > > > > > > > > > > > AND: > > > > > > Date: Tuesday 23 November 2004 > > > > > > Time: 0900 - 1700 > > > > > > Location: Damascus, Syria > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AND: > > > > > > Date: Friday 17 December 2004 > > > > > > Time: 0900 - 1700 > > > > > > Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > > > > > > *************** > > > > > > > > > > > > REGISTRATION FORM > > > > > > ================= > > > > > > > > > > > > %START > > > > > > > > > > > > PART 1 - Registration > > > > > > 1) Your name > > > > > > Enter First name, Last name in full > > > > > > e.g. John Doe > > > > > > Mary-Beth Walton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # NAME [ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Your Registry ID (format: country-code.<name of > registry>) > > > > > > > > > > > > # REG [ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Your e-mail address > > > > > > > > > > > > # EMAIL [ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Your NIC handle (optional) > > > > > > > > > > > > # NICHANDLE [ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) The course you plan to attend (date and location) > > > > > > > > > > > > # COURSE [ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > %END > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > The Roman Rule: > The one who says it cannot be done > should never interrupt the one who is doing it. >

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Re: [ripe.net #102454] [henk@ripe.net: Re: [ris-int] Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX]
by James Aldridge 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

Rene Wilhelm wrote: > > > We do not have to make decision today. When Shane and James get > > back from vacation, I like to check with them. > > for what it's worth, I agree with Matthew and Henk to rename rrc08 > when it moves out of MAE WEST. It is the easiest clue to anyone > *using* the data that something drastically has changed. > > If you DO NOT rename rrc08, *everyone* using the data will have > to keep in mind at what day the machine moved from mae to paix. > RISreports, historic trends, graphs, will no longer be clear > by themselves, as with every oddity seen in rrc08, one will have > to check if it is before or after the move date. > > Why create that burden when NCC can simply rename to rrc14? I'd choose to go for rrc14 for all the same reasons. James

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RIPE NCC RIS Project - De-Bogonising Update
by Arife Vural 17 Aug '04

17 Aug '04

Apologies for duplicate messages. Part of De-Bogonising New Address Blocks Activity, we are announcing prefixes from 85/8 on RRC03. Prefixes from 85/8 are now in regular production use so we are no longer announcing 85.192.0.0/16 and 85.255.248.0/21. If you have filters to accept those prefixes from AS12654, please update them accordingly. Kind regards. Arife

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risintro
by Matthew Williams 17 Aug '04

17 Aug '04

BTW, you should also link to de-cix. http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/np/ris/de-cix.html What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html? I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo opportunity for "other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember, the RIS is a part of a whole package: +++ Useful Links * RIS Home Page * myASn * RISwhois * BGPlay * More RIS Tools * Weekly RIS Statistics Report * RIS Raw Data * RIS Looking Glass Other Services and Projects * K-root Local Mirror Instances * Test Traffic Measurements (TTM) * RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring (dnsmon) * Deployment of Internet Security Infrastructures (DISI) +++ Cheers, Matthew --- > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > Customer Liaison Engineer > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

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Fw: NCC#2004081626 [Re: Test allocations]
by RIS 17 Aug '04

17 Aug '04

FYI: rrc03 is stopped announcing those prefixes. I removed route object entries from RIPE DB as well. Arife ----- Begin forwarded message ----- Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:49:38 +0200 From: Mike Petuschak <mike(a)ripe.net> To: RIS <ris-request(a)ripe.net> Subject: Re: NCC#2004081626 Test allocations Message-Id: <20040817074938.GA3324(a)ripe.net> Dear Arife, Please only remove the ranges from 85/8, i.e. network 85.192.0.0/16 network 85.255.248.0/21 the following route objects needs to be removed too: route: 85.192.0.0/16 descr: RIPE-NCC-RIS New Allocation Filter Checking origin: AS12654 mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-RIS-MNT changed: risops(a)ripe.net 20040402 source: RIPE route: 85.255.248.0/21 descr: RIPE-NCC-RIS New Allocation Filter Checking origin: AS12654 mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-RIS-MNT changed: risops(a)ripe.net 20040402 source: RIPE

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[henk@ripe.net: Re: [ris-int] Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX]
by Arife Vural 17 Aug '04

17 Aug '04

Hi guys, To re-locate RRC08, do we need any re-installation or not? Is changing IP config either at old or new location enough? Arife ----- Forwarded message from "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE NCC)" <henk(a)ripe.net> ----- From: "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE NCC)" <henk(a)ripe.net> To: Arife Vural <arife(a)ripe.net> Subject: Re: [ris-int] Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:29:51 +0200 (CEST) Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Arife Vural wrote: > > > i think i can do this. i'm working with the paix people now. > > That's great :-) OK, please let me know if you need anything > from me. I'd think that we have to prepare reconfiguration, shutdown @ MAE-W, shipping to PAIX etc. ourselves first, Henk > > Arife > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. (David Brent). ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: [ripe.net #102454] [henk@ripe.net: Re: [ris-int] Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX]
by Rene Wilhelm 17 Aug '04

17 Aug '04

> We do not have to make decision today. When Shane and James get > back from vacation, I like to check with them. for what it's worth, I agree with Matthew and Henk to rename rrc08 when it moves out of MAE WEST. It is the easiest clue to anyone *using* the data that something drastically has changed. If you DO NOT rename rrc08, *everyone* using the data will have to keep in mind at what day the machine moved from mae to paix. RISreports, historic trends, graphs, will no longer be clear by themselves, as with every oddity seen in rrc08, one will have to check if it is before or after the move date. Why create that burden when NCC can simply rename to rrc14? -- Rene

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This page
by Matthew Williams 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

>Please send your comments to <ris-int(a)ripe.net> http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/np/ris/de-cix.html Change to ris(a)ripe.net? Cheers, Matthew --- > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > Customer Liaison Engineer > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

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FYI: riswhois up-to-date monitoring
by Rene Wilhelm 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

Hi Arife, Ops/gerard have setup monitoring to alarm us when riswhois fails to refresh its BGP data. The daemon should read latest BGP fulldump files every 8 hours, but few weeks ago I noticed it failed to that; hence the request to ops. Do you also have independent checks (in ops or sed) to see if bgp dump files are collected to halfweg? -- Rene ------- Forwarded Message X-Recipient: <wilhelm(a)mailhost.ripe.net> Return-Path: <rt2(a)ripe.net> Received: from owl.ripe.net (owl.ripe.net [193.0.1.100]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i7D9nlW7023703 for <wilhelm(a)mailhost.ripe.net>; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:49:47 +0200 Received: (from rt2@localhost) by owl.ripe.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) id i7D9nl4T015909; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:49:47 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:49:47 +0200 Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102281] R: intelligent monitoring From: Gerard Leurs via RT <ops(a)ripe.net> Reply-To: ops(a)ripe.net In-Reply-To: <rt-102281(a)ripe.net> Message-ID: <rt-102281-491055.1.96152598629475(a)ripe.net> Precedence: bulk X-RT-Loop-Prevention: ripe.net RT-Ticket: ripe.net #102281 Managed-by: Request Tracker 2.0.9 (http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/) RT-Originator: RT::User 10 To: wilhelm(a)ripe.net X-UIDL: 7WB!!]+k"!OUE"!>?&#! Rene. WE now have a check for riswhois sources 'RISSOURCES'. The nagioscheck runs every 120 minutes. And an email is send when the difference is >2 days. Closing ticket. Gerard. ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Web Access Report for the Routing Information Service - July, 2004
by Matthew Williams 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hi All, The monthly RIS Web Access Report is available at the following URL: http://iii.ripe.net/np/ris/WWW072004_RIS.pdf Please comment on oddities. Cheers, Matthew

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O: myas (no N) go away
by Matthew Williams 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hereby I wish to notify Operations of something uncategorised. Detailed description: --------------------- Hotseat wrote: > This request will be closed. You can create a new one to > tell us what you really want. > > E m i l . "Yo, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, So tell me what you want, what you really really want, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, So tell me what you want, what you really really want, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really really really wanna zigazig ha." [ Please provide us with all relevant information ] New request: > As Rene points out, all I ever wanted was: > > - Eliminate the myastesting (no N) link on > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/. > > - I also doubt that we need the alias - myastesting (no N) - > any longer. > > Can this be done without touching/deleting myasntesting (with N)? Regards, Matthew Williams

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RIS related docs
by Arife Vural 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hi guys, Some of the RIS related docs are at http://iii.ripe.net/sed/twiki/bin/view/Doc/RIS. After Kevin does the re-arrangement on SED iii pages, some of the stuff from NP pages will go there as well. Arife

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NP and SED = RIS
by Matthew Williams 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hi Arife, I think this will be last time that I will take on a myASn task. Next time, I'll just send you an email. A lot easier that way... I've learnt my lesson ;) My open RIS items concern: - Admin for MSK-IX - Promoting myASn at R49 - RIS Update at R49 - myASn User doc - Working with guys on odd myASn issue that may pop up - New RIS www Does this cover it? Cheers, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] > On Behalf Of Matthew Williams > Sent: 11 August 2004 20:08 > To: RIPE NCC Operations > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > Subject: [ris-int] O: myas (no N) go away > > > > Hereby I wish to notify Operations of something uncategorised. > > Detailed description: > --------------------- > Hotseat wrote: > > This request will be closed. You can create a new one to > tell us what > > you really want. > > > > E m i l . > > "Yo, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, > So tell me what you want, what you really really want, > I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, > So tell me what you want, what you really really want, > I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really > really really wanna zigazig ha." > > [ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > New request: > > As Rene points out, all I ever wanted was: > > > > - Eliminate the myastesting (no N) link on > > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/. > > > > - I also doubt that we need the alias - myastesting (no N) - > > any longer. > > > > Can this be done without touching/deleting myasntesting (with N)? > > Regards, > Matthew Williams >

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Re: [ris-int] RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Rene Wilhelm 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi, > > So to correct this, I suggest: > > > > 1. rm -rf /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myasntesting > > 2. mv /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myastesting > > /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myasntesting 3. restore the myasntesting > > list (all subscribers and settings) > > Steps 1&2 seem to be contradicting: > > 1. throw away newest and active archive > 2. copy old obsolete and inactive archive over the (now empty) current > archives. If you took 1 minute (or 30 seconds) to LOOK at these archives, you would see that myastesting has EVERYTHING from myastesting PLUS the stuff send to myasntesting myasntesting on the other hand ONLY has stuff send to myasntesting. so to preserve the history of the myas(n) testing list, one should keep myastesting. As I said, this is something that SHOULD have been done in the first place when the mailing list changed name. > Again, this messup has been corrected and for all I care the ticket is > closed for being a poor request. huh? the request seemed pretty clear to me. You can't expect users to know all the intricate details of the convoluted setup of mailing lists and their archives. -- Rene

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RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi Emil, I see, it was my fault all along for OPS doing something that I never requested. Ever seen the Fawlty Towers episode where Basil spanks himself on the bottom? ;) Anyway, that said, many thanks for fixing this. Much obliged :) As Rene points out, all I ever wanted was: - Eliminate the myastesting (no N) link on http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/. - I also doubt that we need the alias - myastesting (no N) - any longer. Can this be done without touching/deleting myasntesting (with N)? Kind regards, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: FLS Hotseat via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > Sent: 11 August 2004 19:00 > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > Hi Matthew, > > Jeannette has gone home, so this is 'hotseat' (Emil) speaking: > > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:30:10 +0200, "Matthew Williams" > <matthew(a)ripe.net> wrote: > > > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > > > This is not want I wanted. If anything was unclear, you should have > > gotten back to me before deleting something that I had > hoped would've > > been left untouched. > > Your first mail was a very poorly formatted forward of a forward of > a...etc. In fact you have not formulated a request.. If you > say we shoud have bounced it for being unclear, I totally agree! > > I am not at all surprised that it was not correctly > interpreted. Next time spend some time on making a clear > request please. > > On to the real issue: "myastesting" was an alias to > "myasNtesting", not a list in itself. To stop all confusion I > have put that alias back in place; nothing has disappeared, > nothing has changed, only time was wasted. > > This request will be closed. You can create a new one to > tell us what you really want. > > E m i l . > > > x7:emil:~ $ telnet birch 25 > Trying 193.0.1.96... > Connected to birch. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 birch.ripe.net ESMTP RIPE NCC Sendmail 8.12.10; Wed, 11 > Aug 2004 18:54:50 +0200 expn myastesting 250 2.1.5 > <myasntesting(a)lists.ripe.net> expn myasntesting 250 2.1.5 > <myasntesting(a)lists.ripe.net> quit 221 2.0.0 birch.ripe.net > closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. x7:emil:~ $ >

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Re: [ris-int] RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Rene Wilhelm 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hmm, this seems to have headed off in quite the wrong direction, a request to delete an obsolete mail archive resulting in removal of an active mail list :( To shed some light on the matter: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ lists both myasntesting and myastesting, the latter holding identical messages to myasntesting for at least all of 2004 All that Matthew wanted was the obsoleted myastesting (without 'n') to disappear from this listing and stop being a valid e-mail address. It appears that way back in the distant past, when the project was renamed from myAS to myASn and the myasntesting list took over from myastesting, some mistakes have been made in the archive setup: - the myastesting archive SHOULD have been renamed mysasntesting - the myastesting alias should NOT have continued archiving. So to correct this, I suggest: 1. rm -rf /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myasntesting 2. mv /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myastesting /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myasntesting 3. restore the myasntesting list (all subscribers and settings) 4. (re)activate archiving of myasntesting -- Rene > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > This is not want I wanted. If anything was unclear, you should have gotten back to me before deleting something that I had hoped > would've been left untouched. > > Cheers, > Matthew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > Sent: 11 August 2004 18:22 > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > Subject: RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There has never been no myastesting. There's only an alias > > which points to > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > Tonight the systems will be synced and our mailserver will > > then not know of > > myastesting(a)ripe.net nor myasntesting(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Jean. > > #301 > > > > At 05:59 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi Jean, > > > > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > >Wait please, not _myasntesting_, see above it says > > _myastesting_ (w/o > > >'n'). > > > > > >Cheers, > > >Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 15:27 > > > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > > > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthew, > > > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > > > > Can this go too? > > > > myasn-bounce: /dev/null > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > Jean. > > > > > > > > At 03:02 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. > > > > > > > > > >Detailed description: > > > > >--------------------- > > > > > > > > > >[ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net > > [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On > > > > > > Behalf Of RIPE > > NCC Webmaster > > > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > > > > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > > > > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Subject: [ris-int] Re: > > > > > > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > > > > guess the > > > > > > request needs to head in their direction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > > > > > > * Hi Webbies, > > > > > > * > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > > * > > > > > > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > * > > > > > > * Cheers, > > > > > > * Matthew > > > > > > * > > > > > > * --- > > > > > > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > > > > > > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > > > > > > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > Matthew Williams > > > > > > >

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FW: [ris-int] RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Can the list be restored? Or can we do something so users mailing to the list don't just bounce? If you have any way of finding the subscribed folk again then that would be of great help. Cheers, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] > On Behalf Of Matthew Williams > Sent: 11 August 2004 18:30 > To: ops(a)ripe.net > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > Subject: [ris-int] RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > This is not want I wanted. If anything was unclear, you > should have gotten back to me before deleting something that > I had hoped would've been left untouched. > > Cheers, > Matthew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > Sent: 11 August 2004 18:22 > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > Subject: RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There has never been no myastesting. There's only an alias > > which points to > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > Tonight the systems will be synced and our mailserver will > > then not know of > > myastesting(a)ripe.net nor myasntesting(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Jean. > > #301 > > > > At 05:59 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi Jean, > > > > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > >Wait please, not _myasntesting_, see above it says > > _myastesting_ (w/o > > >'n'). > > > > > >Cheers, > > >Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 15:27 > > > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > > > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthew, > > > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > > > > Can this go too? > > > > myasn-bounce: /dev/null > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > Jean. > > > > > > > > At 03:02 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. > > > > > > > > > >Detailed description: > > > > >--------------------- > > > > > > > > > >[ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net > > [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On > > > > > > Behalf Of RIPE > > NCC Webmaster > > > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > > > > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > > > > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Subject: [ris-int] Re: > > > > > > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > > > > guess the > > > > > > request needs to head in their direction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > > > > > > * Hi Webbies, > > > > > > * > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > > * > > > > > > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > * > > > > > > * Cheers, > > > > > > * Matthew > > > > > > * > > > > > > * --- > > > > > > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > > > > > > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > > > > > > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > Matthew Williams > > > > > > >

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RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

> myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). This is not want I wanted. If anything was unclear, you should have gotten back to me before deleting something that I had hoped would've been left untouched. Cheers, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > Sent: 11 August 2004 18:22 > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > Subject: RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > Hi, > > There has never been no myastesting. There's only an alias > which points to > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > Tonight the systems will be synced and our mailserver will > then not know of > myastesting(a)ripe.net nor myasntesting(a)ripe.net > > > Jean. > #301 > > At 05:59 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi Jean, > > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > >Wait please, not _myasntesting_, see above it says > _myastesting_ (w/o > >'n'). > > > >Cheers, > >Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 15:27 > > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthew, > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > > Can this go too? > > > myasn-bounce: /dev/null > > > > > > cheers, > > > Jean. > > > > > > At 03:02 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. > > > > > > > >Detailed description: > > > >--------------------- > > > > > > > >[ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net > [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On > > > > > Behalf Of RIPE > NCC Webmaster > > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > > > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > > > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > > > > > Subject: [ris-int] Re: > > > > > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Matthew > > > > > > > > > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > > > guess the > > > > > request needs to head in their direction. > > > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > > > > > * Hi Webbies, > > > > > * > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > * > > > > > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > * > > > > > * Cheers, > > > > > * Matthew > > > > > * > > > > > * --- > > > > > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > > > > > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > > > > > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > Matthew Williams > > > >

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Re: [ris-int] Re: myASn acc's
by Arife Vural 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi Matthew, I have updated the script, now it's at risops@halfweg:myasn/bin/add_myasn_user. It does few checks and also documentation is available at http://iii.ripe.net/sed/twiki/bin/view/Doc/RIS. Just for your info. I will remove the old versions. Please, send me the link for mailinglist and password as well to update the list. Arife

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RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi Jean, > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > cross-references it (p > > > * lease verify). > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. Wait please, not _myasntesting_, see above it says _myastesting_ (w/o 'n'). Cheers, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > Sent: 11 August 2004 15:27 > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > Hi Matthew, > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > Can this go too? > myasn-bounce: /dev/null > > cheers, > Jean. > > At 03:02 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > > >Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. > > > >Detailed description: > >--------------------- > > > >[ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On > > > Behalf Of RIPE NCC Webmaster > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > > > Subject: [ris-int] Re: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Matthew > > > > > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > guess the > > > request needs to head in their direction. > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > > > * Hi Webbies, > > > * > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > cross-references it (p > > > * lease verify). > > > * > > > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > * > > > * Cheers, > > > * Matthew > > > * > > > * --- > > > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > > > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > > > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > > > * > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > Matthew Williams >

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R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. Detailed description: --------------------- [ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > -----Original Message----- > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] > On Behalf Of RIPE NCC Webmaster > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > To: Matthew Williams > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > Subject: [ris-int] Re: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > Good Morning Matthew > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > guess the request needs to head in their direction. > > Adrian > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > * Hi Webbies, > * > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > cross-references it (p > * lease verify). > * > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > * > * Cheers, > * Matthew > * > * --- > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > * > Regards, Matthew Williams

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http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi Webbies, Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting cross-references it (please verify). http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ Cheers, Matthew --- > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > Customer Liaison Engineer > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

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