[Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs
Dear AfriNIC's Community, Le dim. 1 août 2021 à 10:58 AM, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net> a écrit :
Hello community
Hi Paul, Thanks for your email, brother. ...please, next time, replace community by its plural...unless you test your *globalisation*?
I think I misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate sentiments.
...i see! So, you acknowledge to be wrong in your haste? ...please, come down, brother!
Let me try this again:
In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR
...i would have expected that the ressource member which caused this concern would have been your first recommended choice :-/ should help AFRINIC (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core
registration service function for the time being,
NRA.help | Number Richers Alliance? :-/
until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses.
...which *African* end users? imho, your real fear seem to be the lost of connectivity of the 90%, out-of-region, customer base of the LIR which sued its parent-RIR and started an *INRs War* against the RFC7020, against the entire Internet Number Registry System, through the NRA.help project. Shalom, --sb.
Regards Paul
---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner <paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net <paul.wollner@africaoncloud.net>>* wrote ----
Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large.
The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and especially by AFRINIC's own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its inability to meet its financial requirements.
I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some time later. (https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir- accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund/)
That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come out of litigation.
Regards Paul Wollner
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until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses.
...which *African* end users? imho, your real fear seem to be the lost of connectivity of the 90%, out-of-region, customer base of the LIR which sued its parent-RIR and started an *INRs War* against the RFC7020, against the entire Internet Number Registry System, through the NRA.help project.
i think they hired trump and giuliani to lie and escalate. their problem is that they are lying and trying to escalate to an audience of internet operators who have decades of experience with a pretty stable system (until they illegally ripped off a lot of address space and got caught). as with trump, ignore the lies and escalation. it is just designed to create doubt and confusion. randy
In message <m25ywnn0rx.wl-randy@psg.com>, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>? wrote:
i think they hired trump and giuliani to lie and escalate. their problem is that they are lying and trying to escalate to an audience of internet operators who have decades of experience with a pretty stable system
It has taken quite some considerable period of time, but I do believe that we have finally located something that Rady Bush and I actually agree on.
(until they illegally ripped off a lot of address space and got caught).
Owing to my personal propensity to avoid inflammatory assertions which might incur the potential for some personally directed legal actions on the basis of defamation, I shall not associate myself with this additional parenthetical remark on the part of Randy Bush. I will say only that a significant number of valuable IPv4 addresses appear to have been effectively "liberated" from the AFRINIC region for use elsewhere, and primarily in the Far East, and even more specifically by a number of relatively youthful legal entities in Hong Kong. Regards, rfg
On 2 Aug 2021, at 20:45, Randy Bush wrote:
ignore the lies and escalation. it is just designed to create doubt and confusion.
Could not agree more. This guy quotes his very own comment on Rob Blokzijl’s obituary and puts his own words in the mouth of Rob who cannot do anything about it anymore. He even puts this ‘quote’ in the charter of his new anti-RIR club. Distasteful. A disgrace. Just ignore the lies! Daniel
ignore the lies and escalation. it is just designed to create doubt and confusion.
Could not agree more. This guy quotes his very own comment on Rob Blokzijl’s obituary and puts his own words in the mouth of Rob who cannot do anything about it anymore. He even puts this ‘quote’ in the charter of his new anti-RIR club. Distasteful. A disgrace.
Just ignore the lies!
that they have gone full trump (and let's remember to give credit for continual lies to johnson) is a sign of their desperation. randy
{apologies for crossposting} Dear RIPE-Lister, Hope you are well. Please see my comments below, inline... Le mar. 3 août 2021 à 10:07 AM, Daniel Karrenberg <dfk@ripe.net> a écrit :
On 2 Aug 2021, at 20:45, Randy Bush wrote:
ignore the lies and escalation. it is just designed to create doubt and confusion.
Could not agree more.
Hi Daniel, Thanks for your email, brother. ...this is an *INRs War*. it's no more only about few/full lies. It seems as AfriNIC is just the first step... This guy quotes his very own comment on Rob
Blokzijl’s obituary and puts his own words in the mouth of Rob who cannot do anything about it anymore. He even puts this ‘quote’ in the charter of his new anti-RIR club. Distasteful. A disgrace.
...from the home page of the NRA: ~°~ NUMBER RESOURCES SOCIETY "RIR is just a bookkeeper" - Rob Blokzijl Obituary IP addresses or number resources are crucial assets that allow every person in the world to access the Internet. These precious assets are managed and registered by Regional Internet Registries (RIRs). Unfortunately, these organizations can only act as bookkeepers and distributors of IP space, not regulators or owners. That said, it is important to raise awareness about this fact, as Number Resource Members. ~°~ The charter against the Internet Number Registry System has been saved here : <https://web.archive.org/web/20210804044327/https://www.nra.help/our-charter
Shalom, --sb.
Just ignore the lies!
Daniel
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Daniel Karrenberg -
Randy Bush -
Ronald F. Guilmette -
Sylvain Baya