I am starting as Managing Director of the RIPE NCC at 1. May 2020. I have already informed the NomCom that I have withdrawn my nomination for the role of RIPE Chair, but this still puts me in a situation where I hold both the positions as RIPE NCC MD and as RIPE Chair until the NomCom has made its appointment. Serving both positions may be seen as a conflict of interest. To resolve this I have informed the Working Group Chairs collective that I will resign as RIPE Chair as of 30 April. When the RIPE Chairs resigns, then according to RIPE 727 the working group chairs will have to appoint a “chair ad interim” to serve until the NomCom has selected a permanent chair and the RIPE NCC Executive Board has confirmed the selection. See: the “Continuity” section in RIPE 727 https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-727 The NomCom expects to have confirmed candidates in July. It is reasonable to expect that the confirmed candidates would be able and willing to assume their roles well before RIPE 81. The matter was discussed on the wg-chair list and in a call on 30 March 2020 made the following decision: "The WG chairs have taken notice of Hans Petter’s intention to step down as RIPE Chair; we respect the reasons behind it. The NomCom process is already under way and the NomCom expects to have confirmed candidates by the end of July. Therefore, we have asked Hans Petter, and he has agreed, to take the role of RIPE Chair ad interim after his resignation and to help with a speedier-than-foreseen transition once the selection process for a new Chair and Vice Chair concludes." https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/cc/summaries/minutes-of-second-remo... Hans Petter Holen RIPE Chair
Hi there, I've read this (and the minutes) a number of times, and am still unable to parse -- it sounds the summary is: "Hans Petter will transition from Chair to ad interim Chair until there is a new chair" -- is that correct? Note that I think that this is a *perfectly* fine outcome[0], I'm just trying to parse / understand... W [0]: ... and thanks for being concerned about the CoI, and for being willing to serve / your service... On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:55 PM Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> wrote:
I am starting as Managing Director of the RIPE NCC at 1. May 2020. I have already informed the NomCom that I have withdrawn my nomination for the role of RIPE Chair, but this still puts me in a situation where I hold both the positions as RIPE NCC MD and as RIPE Chair until the NomCom has made its appointment. Serving both positions may be seen as a conflict of interest.
To resolve this I have informed the Working Group Chairs collective that I will resign as RIPE Chair as of 30 April.
When the RIPE Chairs resigns, then according to RIPE 727 the working group chairs will have to appoint a “chair ad interim” to serve until the NomCom has selected a permanent chair and the RIPE NCC Executive Board has confirmed the selection.
See: the “Continuity” section in RIPE 727 https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-727
The NomCom expects to have confirmed candidates in July. It is reasonable to expect that the confirmed candidates would be able and willing to assume their roles well before RIPE 81.
The matter was discussed on the wg-chair list and in a call on 30 March 2020 made the following decision:
"The WG chairs have taken notice of Hans Petter’s intention to step down as RIPE Chair; we respect the reasons behind it. The NomCom process is already under way and the NomCom expects to have confirmed candidates by the end of July. Therefore, we have asked Hans Petter, and he has agreed, to take the role of RIPE Chair ad interim after his resignation and to help with a speedier-than-foreseen transition once the selection process for a new Chair and Vice Chair concludes."
https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/cc/summaries/minutes-of-second-remo...
Hans Petter Holen
RIPE Chair
-- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
On 6 Apr 2020, at 20:18, Warren Kumari wrote:
Hi there,
I've read this (and the minutes) a number of times, and am still unable to parse -- it sounds the summary is: "Hans Petter will transition from Chair to ad interim Chair until there is a new chair" -- is that correct?
Note that I think that this is a *perfectly* fine outcome[0], I'm just trying to parse / understand...
W [0]: ... and thanks for being concerned about the CoI, and for being willing to serve / your service...
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:55 PM Hans Petter Holen <hph@oslo.net> wrote:
I am starting as Managing Director of the RIPE NCC at 1. May 2020. I have already informed the NomCom that I have withdrawn my nomination for the role of RIPE Chair, but this still puts me in a situation where I hold both the positions as RIPE NCC MD and as RIPE Chair until the NomCom has made its appointment. Serving both positions may be seen as a conflict of interest.
To resolve this I have informed the Working Group Chairs collective that I will resign as RIPE Chair as of 30 April.
When the RIPE Chairs resigns, then according to RIPE 727 the working group chairs will have to appoint a “chair ad interim” to serve until the NomCom has selected a permanent chair and the RIPE NCC Executive Board has confirmed the selection.
See: the “Continuity” section in RIPE 727 https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-727
The NomCom expects to have confirmed candidates in July. It is reasonable to expect that the confirmed candidates would be able and willing to assume their roles well before RIPE 81.
The matter was discussed on the wg-chair list and in a call on 30 March 2020 made the following decision:
"The WG chairs have taken notice of Hans Petter’s intention to step down as RIPE Chair; we respect the reasons behind it. The NomCom process is already under way and the NomCom expects to have confirmed candidates by the end of July. Therefore, we have asked Hans Petter, and he has agreed, to take the role of RIPE Chair ad interim after his resignation and to help with a speedier-than-foreseen transition once the selection process for a new Chair and Vice Chair concludes."
https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/cc/summaries/minutes-of-second-remo...
Hans Petter Holen
RIPE Chair
-- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
Sorry, something went horribly wrong there with cut-and-paste. This is the message I intended to send: On 6 Apr 2020, at 20:18, Warren Kumari wrote: I've read this (and the minutes) a number of times, and am still unable to parse -- it sounds the summary is: "Hans Petter will transition from Chair to ad interim Chair until there is a new chair" -- is that correct? … Yes! Hans Petter says: “…I have informed the Working Group Chairs collective that I will resign as RIPE Chair as of 30 April.” The WG Chairs say: “Therefore, we have asked Hans Petter, and he has agreed, to take the role of RIPE Chair ad interim after his resignation …” Hans Petter will resign on April 30th. After that he will serve as RIPE Chair Ad Interim. “… and to help with a speedier-than-foreseen transition once the selection process for a new Chair and Vice Chair concludes." After the NomCom process concludes the confirmed candidates will take their roles as Chair and Vice Chair as soon as possible. We will not wait for the autumn meeting as per the planned process. Clear now? May sound overly formalistic for RIPE. But we better follow the formalism we have imposed on ourselves, Right? Daniel
participants (3)
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Daniel Karrenberg
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Hans Petter Holen
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Warren Kumari