L.S. Is there a sneak preview of the V5 probes available somewhere? Regards, Ernst J. Oud
It was shown at RIPE84: https://mobile.twitter.com/bortzmeyer/status/1526932317838745602 BR, Simon On 30.09.22 18:17, Ernst J. Oud wrote:
L.S.
Is there a sneak preview of the V5 probes available somewhere?
Regards,
Ernst J. Oud
By the way, a lot of them are already registered (Probe IDs 6xxxx). https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/60006/ https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/60008/ https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/60009/ https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/60011/ https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/60012/ https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/60018/ https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/60019/ https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/60023/ ... https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/63101/ Currently, there are ~3100 registered v5 probes, of which only 35 are online. The others are not yet in use (never connected). As far as i can see, the first v5 probes went online in january this year. The architecture type is "atlas-mox". BR, Simon On 30.09.22 18:38, ripe.net@toppas.net wrote:
It was shown at RIPE84:
https://mobile.twitter.com/bortzmeyer/status/1526932317838745602
BR, Simon
On 30.09.22 18:17, Ernst J. Oud wrote:
L.S.
Is there a sneak preview of the V5 probes available somewhere?
Regards,
Ernst J. Oud
I really hope that's USB-C and not Micro USB.
Have a look at this: https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/probe-v5/ <https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/probe-v5/> Might be USB-C?
Op 2 okt. 2022, om 14:33 heeft Alexander Burke via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> het volgende geschreven:
I really hope that's USB-C and not Micro USB. -- ripe-atlas mailing list ripe-atlas@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas
You can get the specs from the RIPE84 photo: 256MB DDR3L - SK Hynix H5TC4G63CFR 4GB eMMC Flash - SK Hynix H26M31001HPR ARMv8 CPU - Marvell Armada 3720 (88F3720) Micro-USB Port But the sample shown at RIPE84 was a prototype. Some things might have changed. However, it looks like the prototype has some GPIO ports? Oh boy, what can we expect? Hardware extension boards? Maybe we could create some sort of global radiation measurement network, connect outdoor heat sensors or stuff like that^^ BR, Simon On 02.10.22 14:58, Eric Kochen wrote:
Have a look at this:
https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/probe-v5/
Might be USB-C?
Op 2 okt. 2022, om 14:33 heeft Alexander Burke via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> het volgende geschreven:
I really hope that's USB-C and not Micro USB. -- ripe-atlas mailing list ripe-atlas@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas
Alexander Burke via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> writes:
I really hope that's USB-C and not Micro USB.
Why would that matter? It's not like you're going to share the cable with other devices, or ever unplug it from the probe. The only factor I can imagine matter to anyone would be plug-n-play replacement of older probes. Which gives Micro USB a small advantage. Bjørn
Hi Bjørn, Micro-USB is mechanically inferior: less reliable (easier to accidentally disconnect) and less robust than USB Type-C. ---------------------------------------- Oct 2, 2022 16:12:35 Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no>:
Alexander Burke via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> writes:
I really hope that's USB-C and not Micro USB.
Why would that matter? It's not like you're going to share the cable with other devices, or ever unplug it from the probe.
The only factor I can imagine matter to anyone would be plug-n-play replacement of older probes. Which gives Micro USB a small advantage.
Bjørn
Alexander Burke via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> writes:
Micro-USB is mechanically inferior: less reliable (easier to accidentally disconnect) and less robust than USB Type-C.
Maybe... But you can do a lot better than Type-C for power connector if that's the criteria. Even the smallest barrel connectors are more robust than a Type-C connector. Wrt the accidental disconnects I'm not even sure Type-C is better than Micro-USB. I'd like to see some statistics. A rarely disconnected Micro-USB connector will have the two "hooks" intact, and will be pretty hard to disconnect even if you pull the wire. I don't think it's fair to compare Type-C to a Micro-USB connector which is worn-out due to regular re-connection, if that's what you're thinking about. Anecdotically, my experience is that the Type-C is easily disconnected by a dog, using only his paws... But it wasn't my intention to campaign against Type-C. I just wondered what made that part of the design significant enough to make a wishlist. I'd rather see PoE if you really want to make the power connector more reliable. But I accept the price vs value arguments previously made against PoE. Bjørn
Do we know if users of the old probes can request an upgrade or if an upgrade makes sense at all? (running one of the first probes still on v1)
Am 30.09.2022 um 18:17 schrieb Ernst J. Oud <ernstoud@gmail.com>:
L.S.
Is there a sneak preview of the V5 probes available somewhere?
Regards,
Ernst J. Oud
-- ripe-atlas mailing list ripe-atlas@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas
Deal All, Let me provide some information about the v5 probes, as it seems some of you are interested in the details :-) The technical bits: the probes are derived from Turris Mox, "simplified" to match our need (e.g. no WiFi). The specs include: Marvell Armada 3720 CPU, 4GB eMMC, 512MB RAM, 1Gb ethernet, microUSB power. A few of these are up and running already, hosted by testers (incl. some staff). We are gearing up to start distributing them via the usual channels (applications, ambassadors, sponsors, ...) We do not (yet) recommend "upgrading" form earlier probes, as long as those still work. Of course we're always interested in new locations/networks to cover, so feel free to propose that! :-) Regards, Robert Kisteleki for the RIPE Atlas team
Hi Robert, i noticed that v1 probes are stuck with Firmware Version 4790. Does that mean, they are missing crucial functionalities of the later firmwares? BR, Simon On 03.10.22 09:37, Robert Kisteleki wrote:
Deal All,
Let me provide some information about the v5 probes, as it seems some of you are interested in the details :-)
The technical bits: the probes are derived from Turris Mox, "simplified" to match our need (e.g. no WiFi). The specs include: Marvell Armada 3720 CPU, 4GB eMMC, 512MB RAM, 1Gb ethernet, microUSB power.
A few of these are up and running already, hosted by testers (incl. some staff). We are gearing up to start distributing them via the usual channels (applications, ambassadors, sponsors, ...)
We do not (yet) recommend "upgrading" form earlier probes, as long as those still work. Of course we're always interested in new locations/networks to cover, so feel free to propose that! :-)
Regards, Robert Kisteleki for the RIPE Atlas team
On 2022-10-03 12:37, Simon Brandt via ripe-atlas wrote:
Hi Robert,
i noticed that v1 probes are stuck with Firmware Version 4790. Does that mean, they are missing crucial functionalities of the later firmwares?
BR, Simon
Indeed v1-v2 probes have not received new functionality since then. Therefore they don't do more modern measurements or options we added since (essentially because they don't have enough capacity to handle more code). Their numbers are diminishing though, and for the most part our infrastructure selects other probes if a measurement depends on such new, "crucial" features. Regards, Robert
My v5 probe has arrived in uk :) Probe id 60911 Can it be assigned to me please ? Same user as probe #2317 Colin Sent from my iPod
On 3 Oct 2022, at 08:38, Robert Kisteleki <robert@ripe.net> wrote:
Deal All,
Let me provide some information about the v5 probes, as it seems some of you are interested in the details :-)
The technical bits: the probes are derived from Turris Mox, "simplified" to match our need (e.g. no WiFi). The specs include: Marvell Armada 3720 CPU, 4GB eMMC, 512MB RAM, 1Gb ethernet, microUSB power.
A few of these are up and running already, hosted by testers (incl. some staff). We are gearing up to start distributing them via the usual channels (applications, ambassadors, sponsors, ...)
We do not (yet) recommend "upgrading" form earlier probes, as long as those still work. Of course we're always interested in new locations/networks to cover, so feel free to propose that! :-)
Regards, Robert Kisteleki for the RIPE Atlas team
-- ripe-atlas mailing list ripe-atlas@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas
yeh, v5 probe registered and working fine :) home fibre fttc v5 probe - General <https://atlas.ripe.net/frames/probes/60911/#tab-general> - Network <https://atlas.ripe.net/frames/probes/60911/#tab-network> - Built-ins <https://atlas.ripe.net/frames/probes/60911/#tab-builtins> - UDMs <https://atlas.ripe.net/frames/probes/60911/#tab-udms> - Status (beta) <https://atlas.ripe.net/frames/probes/60911/#tab-status> IPv4 Edit <https://atlas.ripe.net/frames/probes/60911/form-fragment/network4/> Internet Address 86.164.3.169 <https://stat.ripe.net/86.164.3.169> ASN 2856 <https://stat.ripe.net/2856> (BT-UK-AS - British Telecommunications PLC) Local Address 192.168.1.162 <https://stat.ripe.net/192.168.1.162> Gateway 192.168.1.254 <https://stat.ripe.net/192.168.1.254> Netmask 255.255.255.0 <https://stat.ripe.net/255.255.255.0> DNS Resolvers - 192.168.1.254 <https://stat.ripe.net/192.168.1.254> IPv6 Edit <https://atlas.ripe.net/frames/probes/60911/form-fragment/network6/> Current Configuration Addresses fdaa:bbcc:ddee:0:da58:d7ff:fe03:204/64 <https://stat.ripe.net/fdaa:bbcc:ddee:0:da58:d7ff:fe03:204/64> 2a00:23c5:32a2:1f01:da58:d7ff:fe03:204/64 <https://stat.ripe.net/2a00:23c5:32a2:1f01:da58:d7ff:fe03:204/64> ASN 2856 <https://stat.ripe.net/2856> (BT-UK-AS - British Telecommunications PLC) Gateway(s) fe80::3224:78ff:fec4:7193 <https://stat.ripe.net/fe80::3224:78ff:fec4:7193> Probe Address Discovery (What's this?) IPv4IPv6 Connection Address 86.164.3.169 - IP Echo Service - 2a00:23c5:32a2:1f01:da58:d7ff:fe03:204 The Local IP 192.168.1.162 2a00:23c5:32a2:1f01:da58:d7ff:fe03:204 Connection Information Probe's birthday: 2022-11-10 Time ConnectedPercent Last Week 0h 18m 100.00% Last Month 0h 18m 100.00% All Time 0h 18m 99.98%Connection History (Showing only the last 25) Internet AddressControllerConnected (UTC)Connected forDisconnected (UTC)Disconnected for 86.164.3.169 ctr-nue22 2022-11-10 10:25:39 0h 18m Still Connected Download Connection LogsSelect a date range SOS History (Showing only the last 25) The probe sends a message using DNS queries every time it tries to reconnect to the system. Below you can find a list of the most recent messages. The "power-up time" column shows the approximate "powered-up time" of the probe at the time of sending the message. ResolverTime (UTC)Query TypePower-up TimeInfo 81.134.98.38 2022-11-10 10:24:14 AAAA 0h 0m 81.134.98.39 2022-11-10 10:24:14 AAAA 0h 0m On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 at 10:32, Colin Johnston <colinj@mx5.org.uk> wrote:
My v5 probe has arrived in uk :) Probe id 60911
Can it be assigned to me please ? Same user as probe #2317
Colin
Sent from my iPod
On 3 Oct 2022, at 08:38, Robert Kisteleki <robert@ripe.net> wrote:
Deal All,
Let me provide some information about the v5 probes, as it seems some of you are interested in the details :-)
The technical bits: the probes are derived from Turris Mox, "simplified" to match our need (e.g. no WiFi). The specs include: Marvell Armada 3720 CPU, 4GB eMMC, 512MB RAM, 1Gb ethernet, microUSB power.
A few of these are up and running already, hosted by testers (incl. some staff). We are gearing up to start distributing them via the usual channels (applications, ambassadors, sponsors, ...)
We do not (yet) recommend "upgrading" form earlier probes, as long as those still work. Of course we're always interested in new locations/networks to cover, so feel free to propose that! :-)
Regards, Robert Kisteleki for the RIPE Atlas team
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Alexander Burke
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Bjørn Mork
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Colin Johnston
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Eric Kochen
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Ernst J. Oud
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ripe.net@toppas.net
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Robert Kisteleki
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Stephan Müller