Your opinion about Temporary Assignment request
Dear members, May you find the time to tell your opinion about situation with "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Policies" (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-587). We've found that RIPE Team can reply you in this manner "/at this moment we have not received //*sufficient evidence*//in order to see that the request for a temporary assignment is justified/"/./ If you ask about examples of "sufficient evidence" you may get the answer like this "/I am afraid that we are not able to give any examples. Temporary assignments are provided on a case-by-case basis and there is not a 'standard template' for this./" It means that RIPE able selectively accept requests for the temporary assignments and not every LIR has the same capabilities. I think that this service should have just standard request form. I'm appreciate for your time and answers. Regards -- Sergei
Hi, On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 09:18:35AM +0300, Sergei Volgapkin wrote:
May you find the time to tell your opinion about situation with "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Policies" (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-587).
We've found that RIPE Team can reply you in this manner "/at this moment we have not received //*sufficient evidence*//in order to see that the request for a temporary assignment is justified/"/./ If you ask about examples of "sufficient evidence" you may get the answer like this "/I am afraid that we are not able to give any examples. Temporary assignments are provided on a case-by-case basis and there is not a 'standard template' for this./"
It means that RIPE able selectively accept requests for the temporary assignments and not every LIR has the same capabilities.
I think that this service should have just standard request form. I'm appreciate for your time and answers.
This sounds more like a question for the address policy working group. And yes, of course this is evaluated on a case-by-case basis, as https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-587 is deliberately not including a positive list, because that would limit its use for new things that haven't been tried before. So, out of curiosity, what purpose were you requesting address for that got denied? "Assignment to customers", for example, is something the NCC would be correctly refusing. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Hi Gert, Thank you for your reply. It isn't a secret, we're facing with a problem to get the resources for the testing (not for the customers). On 10/25/21 9:29 AM, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 09:18:35AM +0300, Sergei Volgapkin wrote:
May you find the time to tell your opinion about situation with "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Policies" (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-587).
We've found that RIPE Team can reply you in this manner "/at this moment we have not received //*sufficient evidence*//in order to see that the request for a temporary assignment is justified/"/./ If you ask about examples of "sufficient evidence" you may get the answer like this "/I am afraid that we are not able to give any examples. Temporary assignments are provided on a case-by-case basis and there is not a 'standard template' for this./"
It means that RIPE able selectively accept requests for the temporary assignments and not every LIR has the same capabilities.
I think that this service should have just standard request form. I'm appreciate for your time and answers. This sounds more like a question for the address policy working group.
And yes, of course this is evaluated on a case-by-case basis, as https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-587 is deliberately not including a positive list, because that would limit its use for new things that haven't been tried before.
*So, out of curiosity, what purpose were you requesting address for that got denied? "Assignment to customers", for example, is something the NCC would be correctly refusing.*
Gert Doering -- NetMaster
-- Sergei
Hi Sergei, Most of the use cases for Temp assignments are for research or events as far as I know.. Most test setup’s are probably expected to be done internally .. Without knowing the size of the test or the situation, this is how I would view it. If you want to discuss this more in detail, it is probably best to do so in address policy. ( address-policy-wg@ripe.net<mailto:address-policy-wg@ripe.net> ) Or in private. Regards, Erik Bais From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Sergei Volgapkin <sv@unitynet.ru> Date: Monday 25 October 2021 at 13:14 To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Cc: "members-discuss@ripe.net" <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Your opinion about Temporary Assignment request Hi Gert, Thank you for your reply. It isn't a secret, we're facing with a problem to get the resources for the testing (not for the customers). On 10/25/21 9:29 AM, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 09:18:35AM +0300, Sergei Volgapkin wrote: May you find the time to tell your opinion about situation with "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Policies" (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-587). We've found that RIPE Team can reply you in this manner "/at this moment we have not received //*sufficient evidence*//in order to see that the request for a temporary assignment is justified/"/./ If you ask about examples of "sufficient evidence" you may get the answer like this "/I am afraid that we are not able to give any examples. Temporary assignments are provided on a case-by-case basis and there is not a 'standard template' for this./" It means that RIPE able selectively accept requests for the temporary assignments and not every LIR has the same capabilities. I think that this service should have just standard request form. I'm appreciate for your time and answers. This sounds more like a question for the address policy working group. And yes, of course this is evaluated on a case-by-case basis, as https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-587 is deliberately not including a positive list, because that would limit its use for new things that haven't been tried before. So, out of curiosity, what purpose were you requesting address for that got denied? "Assignment to customers", for example, is something the NCC would be correctly refusing. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Sergei
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