Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss
I agree with it. We need IPs to continue providing VPS servers, and other LIRs with unused prefixes, no sense... On 11/02/2016 15:09, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote:
Hi, all.
I think, it is better to return unused allocations, received before 2012, to the NCC pool.
-- Kind regards, Aleksey Bulgakov FastTelecom, CEO 7 926 6908729
14:02, 11 февраля 2016 г., Nigel Titley :
Dear colleagues,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to discuss the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts.
There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in November 2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR accounts, each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run against the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board decided to temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open additional LIR accounts.
The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8 policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has allocated more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the pool.
ACTION REQUIRED: The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and discuss the following points:
1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a problem that must be prevented?
2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention?
Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this article on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/laura_cobley/ripe-ncc-members-and-multiple-lir-accounts?pk_campaign=members&pk_kwd=list-ncc
The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members Discuss mailing list .
The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the next Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the outcome of that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to vote on at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016.
Best regards,
Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board
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-- José Manuel Giner http://ginernet.com
Hi all, This is a socialist way of thinking, you are free (ipotetic speaking) to open another lir and satisfy your VPS needs no? some companies prefer to plan their business long term. In my opinion it's not ok to prioritize resources keeping in mind only the need. We are leaving and doing business in a capitalist environment, buying resources it is what is all about. On 02/11/16 16:19, José Manuel Giner wrote:
I agree with it. We need IPs to continue providing VPS servers, and other LIRs with unused prefixes, no sense...
On 11/02/2016 15:09, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote:
Hi, all.
I think, it is better to return unused allocations, received before 2012, to the NCC pool.
-- Kind regards, Aleksey Bulgakov FastTelecom, CEO 7 926 6908729
14:02, 11 февраля 2016 г., Nigel Titley :
Dear colleagues,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to discuss the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts.
There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in November 2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR accounts, each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run against the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board decided to temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open additional LIR accounts.
The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8 policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has allocated more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the pool.
ACTION REQUIRED: The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and discuss the following points:
1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a problem that must be prevented?
2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention?
Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this article on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/laura_cobley/ripe-ncc-members-and-multiple-lir-accounts?pk_campaign=members&pk_kwd=list-ncc
The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members Discuss mailing list .
The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the next Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the outcome of that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to vote on at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016.
Best regards,
Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board
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Hello, folks! That's good conversation. I'm representing VPS service company. We bought multiple /20 and /21 subnets at last 2 years. But actually there really big injustice exists here! I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used. But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market. And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time. Than't really weird, isn't it? On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Radu Brebu <dial@dialcube.ro> wrote:
Hi all,
This is a socialist way of thinking, you are free (ipotetic speaking) to open another lir and satisfy your VPS needs no? some companies prefer to plan their business long term. In my opinion it's not ok to prioritize resources keeping in mind only the need. We are leaving and doing business in a capitalist environment, buying resources it is what is all about.
On 02/11/16 16:19, José Manuel Giner wrote:
I agree with it. We need IPs to continue providing VPS servers, and other LIRs with unused prefixes, no sense...
On 11/02/2016 15:09, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote:
Hi, all.
I think, it is better to return unused allocations, received before 2012, to the NCC pool.
-- Kind regards, Aleksey Bulgakov FastTelecom, CEO 7 926 6908729
14:02, 11 февраля 2016 г., Nigel Titley :
Dear colleagues,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to discuss the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts.
There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in November 2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR accounts, each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run against the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board decided to temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open additional LIR accounts.
The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8 policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has allocated more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the pool.
ACTION REQUIRED: The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and discuss the following points:
1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a problem that must be prevented?
2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention?
Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this article on RIPE Labs:
The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members Discuss mailing list .
The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the next Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the outcome of that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to vote on at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016.
Best regards,
Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board
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-- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU
I agree with this. I know many LIR’s with /16’s that use 1-2 /24 of it and never WILL use more either but won’t give them back to RIPE. Imo NCC should look for old unused resources and start getting some of them back. Br, Magnus From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Pavel Odintsov Sent: den 11 februari 2016 15:42 To: Radu Brebu <dial@dialcube.ro> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss Hello, folks! That's good conversation. I'm representing VPS service company. We bought multiple /20 and /21 subnets at last 2 years. But actually there really big injustice exists here! I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used. But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market. And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time. Than't really weird, isn't it? On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Radu Brebu <dial@dialcube.ro<mailto:dial@dialcube.ro>> wrote: Hi all, This is a socialist way of thinking, you are free (ipotetic speaking) to open another lir and satisfy your VPS needs no? some companies prefer to plan their business long term. In my opinion it's not ok to prioritize resources keeping in mind only the need. We are leaving and doing business in a capitalist environment, buying resources it is what is all about. On 02/11/16 16:19, José Manuel Giner wrote: I agree with it. We need IPs to continue providing VPS servers, and other LIRs with unused prefixes, no sense... On 11/02/2016 15:09, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote: Hi, all. I think, it is better to return unused allocations, received before 2012, to the NCC pool. -- Kind regards, Aleksey Bulgakov FastTelecom, CEO 7 926 6908729 14:02, 11 февраля 2016 г., Nigel Titley : Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to discuss the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts. There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in November 2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR accounts, each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run against the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board decided to temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open additional LIR accounts. The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8 policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has allocated more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the pool. ACTION REQUIRED: The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and discuss the following points: 1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a problem that must be prevented? 2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention? Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this article on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/laura_cobley/ripe-ncc-members-and-multiple-lir-accounts?pk_campaign=members&pk_kwd=list-ncc The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members Discuss mailing list . The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the next Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the outcome of that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to vote on at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016. Best regards, Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. -- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU
אנא הסירו אותי מרשימת התפוצה שלכם לשרותך עמית כהן מנכ"ל [x2one_logo] נייד : 054-7444444 טלפון: 077-2285300 פקס : 077-2285994 מייל : amit.c@x2one.com<mailto:amit.c@x2one.com> אתר : www.x2one.com<http://www.x2one.com> כתובת: רחוב המלאכה 1,פארק תעשיות צפוני לוד, 7152001 From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Magnus Fr?dell Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:46 PM To: Pavel Odintsov; Radu Brebu Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss I agree with this. I know many LIR’s with /16’s that use 1-2 /24 of it and never WILL use more either but won’t give them back to RIPE. Imo NCC should look for old unused resources and start getting some of them back. Br, Magnus From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Pavel Odintsov Sent: den 11 februari 2016 15:42 To: Radu Brebu <dial@dialcube.ro<mailto:dial@dialcube.ro>> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss Hello, folks! That's good conversation. I'm representing VPS service company. We bought multiple /20 and /21 subnets at last 2 years. But actually there really big injustice exists here! I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used. But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market. And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time. Than't really weird, isn't it? On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Radu Brebu <dial@dialcube.ro<mailto:dial@dialcube.ro>> wrote: Hi all, This is a socialist way of thinking, you are free (ipotetic speaking) to open another lir and satisfy your VPS needs no? some companies prefer to plan their business long term. In my opinion it's not ok to prioritize resources keeping in mind only the need. We are leaving and doing business in a capitalist environment, buying resources it is what is all about. On 02/11/16 16:19, José Manuel Giner wrote: I agree with it. We need IPs to continue providing VPS servers, and other LIRs with unused prefixes, no sense... On 11/02/2016 15:09, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote: Hi, all. I think, it is better to return unused allocations, received before 2012, to the NCC pool. -- Kind regards, Aleksey Bulgakov FastTelecom, CEO 7 926 6908729 14:02, 11 февраля 2016 г., Nigel Titley : Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to discuss the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts. There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in November 2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR accounts, each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run against the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board decided to temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open additional LIR accounts. The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8 policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has allocated more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the pool. ACTION REQUIRED: The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and discuss the following points: 1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a problem that must be prevented? 2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention? Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this article on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/laura_cobley/ripe-ncc-members-and-multiple-lir-accounts?pk_campaign=members&pk_kwd=list-ncc The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members Discuss mailing list . The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the next Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the outcome of that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to vote on at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016. Best regards, Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. -- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU
On 11 Feb 2016, at 14:42, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
But actually there really big injustice exists here!
I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used.
But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market.
And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time.
Than't really weird, isn't it?
If someone has good grounds to believe that an LIR has abused processes then report them to RIPE. RIPE will then hopefully instigate an audit. Regards, Paul. -- Paul Civati <paul(at)racksense.com> 0870 321 2855 Rack Sense Ltd - Managed Service Provider - www.racksense.com
Hello, Paul! I live at Saint-Petersburg, Russia and here even small ISP's (with 1000-2000 customers) offer white/external IP addresses to customers. Each of they have multiple /16 subnets. That's really popular. You could just check companies who "sell" IP addresses right now. Almost all of they violated your rules some time ago and right now they are making money with RIPE's help. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Paul Civati <paul@racksense.com> wrote:
On 11 Feb 2016, at 14:42, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
But actually there really big injustice exists here!
I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used.
But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market.
And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time.
Than't really weird, isn't it?
If someone has good grounds to believe that an LIR has abused processes then report them to RIPE.
RIPE will then hopefully instigate an audit.
Regards, Paul.
-- Paul Civati <paul(at)racksense.com> 0870 321 2855 Rack Sense Ltd - Managed Service Provider - www.racksense.com
---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/
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-- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU
I really like idea to increase cost per /24 subnet. And they who do not use they will get they back. So my company really uses IP address and I could pay some money. But it's pretty expensive to buy IP's for 10$ each from IPv4 brokers each time when I need they. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Pavel Odintsov <odintsov@fastvps.ru> wrote:
Hello, Paul!
I live at Saint-Petersburg, Russia and here even small ISP's (with 1000-2000 customers) offer white/external IP addresses to customers. Each of they have multiple /16 subnets. That's really popular.
You could just check companies who "sell" IP addresses right now. Almost all of they violated your rules some time ago and right now they are making money with RIPE's help.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Paul Civati <paul@racksense.com> wrote:
On 11 Feb 2016, at 14:42, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
But actually there really big injustice exists here!
I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used.
But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market.
And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time.
Than't really weird, isn't it?
If someone has good grounds to believe that an LIR has abused processes then report them to RIPE.
RIPE will then hopefully instigate an audit.
Regards, Paul.
-- Paul Civati <paul(at)racksense.com> 0870 321 2855 Rack Sense Ltd - Managed Service Provider - www.racksense.com
---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/
Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.
-- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU
-- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU
Please remove this address in your own words please לשרותך עמית כהן מנכ"ל [x2one_logo] נייד : 054-7444444 טלפון: 077-2285300 פקס : 077-2285994 מייל : amit.c@x2one.com<mailto:amit.c@x2one.com> אתר : www.x2one.com<http://www.x2one.com> כתובת: רחוב המלאכה 1,פארק תעשיות צפוני לוד, 7152001 From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Pavel Odintsov Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:55 PM To: Paul Civati Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss Hello, Paul! I live at Saint-Petersburg, Russia and here even small ISP's (with 1000-2000 customers) offer white/external IP addresses to customers. Each of they have multiple /16 subnets. That's really popular. You could just check companies who "sell" IP addresses right now. Almost all of they violated your rules some time ago and right now they are making money with RIPE's help. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Paul Civati <paul@racksense.com<mailto:paul@racksense.com>> wrote: On 11 Feb 2016, at 14:42, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
But actually there really big injustice exists here!
I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used.
But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market.
And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time.
Than't really weird, isn't it?
If someone has good grounds to believe that an LIR has abused processes then report them to RIPE. RIPE will then hopefully instigate an audit. Regards, Paul. -- Paul Civati <paul(at)racksense.com<http://racksense.com>> 0870 321 2855 Rack Sense Ltd - Managed Service Provider - www.racksense.com<http://www.racksense.com> ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. -- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU
This is true, but not at all, because many of this unused pools are provided when the cost was 0€ (before the IP exaustion). Then, you have got socialist IPs. You want convert you socialism IPs in capitalism IPs? Ok, pay for it. What is now the cost of a /24? 1500€? Then, pay it and you can remain this unused IPs in your LIR for unlimited time. You don't want to pay? Sorry, but I need this IPs now to continue making Internet biggest. Internet is a open system/service, more socialist than capitalist. On 11/02/2016 15:34, Radu Brebu wrote:
Hi all,
This is a socialist way of thinking, you are free (ipotetic speaking) to open another lir and satisfy your VPS needs no? some companies prefer to plan their business long term. In my opinion it's not ok to prioritize resources keeping in mind only the need. We are leaving and doing business in a capitalist environment, buying resources it is what is all about.
On 02/11/16 16:19, José Manuel Giner wrote:
I agree with it. We need IPs to continue providing VPS servers, and other LIRs with unused prefixes, no sense...
On 11/02/2016 15:09, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote:
Hi, all.
I think, it is better to return unused allocations, received before 2012, to the NCC pool.
-- Kind regards, Aleksey Bulgakov FastTelecom, CEO 7 926 6908729
14:02, 11 февраля 2016 г., Nigel Titley :
Dear colleagues,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to discuss the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts.
There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in November 2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR accounts, each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run against the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board decided to temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open additional LIR accounts.
The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8 policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has allocated more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the pool.
ACTION REQUIRED: The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and discuss the following points:
1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a problem that must be prevented?
2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention?
Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this article on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/laura_cobley/ripe-ncc-members-and-multiple-lir-accounts?pk_campaign=members&pk_kwd=list-ncc
The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members Discuss mailing list .
The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the next Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the outcome of that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to vote on at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016.
Best regards,
Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board
---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/
Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.
-- José Manuel Giner http://ginernet.com
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