Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [service] Decommissioning the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service
Hello, We used the listing service for reaching interested parties while taking offers. Having such a list brings the right people together. If there was no such list, we had to contact a broker. In my opinion this service is useful and should continue to its life. Sincerely U. Ozan Basar /Nano Internet Technologies +90 850 433 62 66 Istanbul Cad Hamurcu Trade Center No:12/27 Bakirkoy Istanbul Turkey / 10.06.2020 13:59 tarihinde Felipe Victolla Silveira yazdı:
Dear members,
In my update at RIPE 80[1], I mentioned that we would like to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service unless there there were strong objections. So far, we have heard no requests to keep the service.
In case anyone is unfamiliar with this, the listing service allows members to offer/request IPv4 prefixes for transfer: https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/list...
While there are currently 681,000 IPv4 addresses "offered" on the listing service, when we attempted to match LIRs that had used the service with those that went on to make a transfer, we couldn't find much of a correlation. Of the 1,969 LIRs that transferred resources in our service region last year, only 76 had posted on the listing service and it's not clear whether the service actually connected the offering/receiving parties for these cases.
As the listing service is reaching the end of its lifespan, a full reimplementation would be needed to continue supporting it. Given that the listing service does not appear to be adding much in terms of value, spending development time on this does seem like a good use of members' funds.
We are therefore planning to discontinue the IPv4 Transfer Listing Service on 22 June. If you have strong objections to this, please let us know or share feedback on members-discuss.
Regards
Felipe Victolla Silveira Chief Operations Officer RIPE NCC
[1] RIPE NCC Operational Update: https://ripe80.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/presentations/28-Operational-Upda...
Hello,
We used the listing service for reaching interested parties while taking offers. Having such a list brings the right people together.
If there was no such list, we had to contact a broker.
In my opinion this service is useful and should continue to its life.
Thank you - those views echo ours. There's also the possibility of more LIR contact spam if there's no legitimate way for sellers, buyers and brokers to find each other. --Dave
We have also used the service in order to find IP resources available for transfer in order to not having to rely on the constant spam from various entities about available resources. It’s in my opinion much better to have a listing service provided by RIPE where we on the receiving end of transfers can clearly see which LIR we are dealing with and whether the resources are available for permanent transfer or not, before reaching out to arrange a deal. Saves time, and avoids the need to deal with various IP brokers that may or may not do honest business (not insinuating any specific broker is bad, it’s just that I don’t know that). So I would be sad to see the service go and also wonder why a full re-implementation of it would be needed as it seems to be fulfilling it’s purpose today? It’s also just a matter of time until the remaining IPv4 resources are so few that people will have to push through an IPv6 implementation whether they want to or not, surely we could keep this simple but in my mind effective service online until then? — Johan Hedberg Senior Systems Engineer Mobile: +46 708 474186 www.citynetwork.eu | www.citycloud.com INNOVATION THROUGH OPEN IT INFRASTRUCTURE ISO 9001, 14001, 27001, 27015 & 27018 CERTIFIED
On 10 Jun 2020, at 13:44, David Knell <david.knell@telng.com> wrote:
Hello,
We used the listing service for reaching interested parties while taking offers. Having such a list brings the right people together.
If there was no such list, we had to contact a broker.
In my opinion this service is useful and should continue to its life.
Thank you - those views echo ours. There's also the possibility of more LIR contact spam if there's no legitimate way for sellers, buyers and brokers to find each other.
--Dave
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I too would like to see the service continue. Doing so in a regulated format that is controlled by RIPE is the right way to do it in my opinion. Mike Smyth Director MYS Ltd
Hi I believe it should be remade and the prices should be posted as well, for a clear and transparent market. Maybe RIPE should act as the escrow and make everything simple. On 6/10/2020 3:20 PM, MYS Ltd wrote:
I too would like to see the service continue. Doing so in a regulated format that is controlled by RIPE is the right way to do it in my opinion.
Mike Smyth Director *MYS Ltd*
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+1 El 2020/06/10 a las 14:53, Redcluster escribió:
Hi
I believe it should be remade and the prices should be posted as well, for a clear and transparent market.
Maybe RIPE should act as the escrow and make everything simple.
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