Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes
Hi, Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read. Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it. Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative. Kaj ________________________________ From: ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 To: ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> Subject: [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Dear RIPE NCC members, The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available. Minutes of the 168th Meeting: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C7dc8cf1c2b18484606e208dbd3a6775b%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638336484161893667%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=93CAzORi736aAsgc%2FvEFuJd6ef2onivzlnQ%2BalQ7J8I%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting> The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes. ----------------------- Main Items ----------------------- - I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update. - I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver. - Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community. - The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years. - Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023. - Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board. - Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback. - Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project. - Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates. - The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database. - James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments. - Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting. - Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC. - Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas. ---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ---------------------------- - The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167. - The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026. - The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner. - The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”. - The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”. - The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”. - The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”. - The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023. - The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service. Kind regards, Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
Hi Kaj, I presented the PESTLE Analysis to the Board having collated the factors internally among staff. For those unfamiliar with PESTLE Analysis, it's basically identification of factors in six areas that might impact an organisation's strategy or business in the coming years. It's intended to give an idea of the environment we'll have to operate in going forward. There are lots of references online but the wikipedia page on this is a good starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEST_analysis The presentation I gave to the Board listed the common factors identified and it's worth noting that the list presented was not exhaustive - many more factors were identified by staff but the presentation gave the most common factors. If you think we miss anything important, feel free to let us know. For comparison, the summary of the analysis we did in 2021 when we made the strategic plan can be found on page 5 of the RIPE NCC Strategy 2022-2026: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-774 Here is what I presented in plaintext in case anyone wants to comment on them in the mail thread... All the best, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC ** Political - The Russia-Ukraine war and factors arising from that, as well as geopolitical conflicts more generally, and cyberspace increasingly being a front in these conflicts - Sanctions (Russia, Iran, Syria), energy costs and inflation impacting our ability to do business with all parts of our service region - NL and EU legislating in a way that affects our operations - Environmental issues driving political instability and conflict - Authoritarianism is seen by many as a potential issue, especially in terms of countries seeking to gain more control over the Internet - Trend towards mistrust in institutions together with rampant misinformation - AFRINIC’s issues and potential attempts to similarly disrupt the RIPE NCC ** Economic - See previous slide - War, sanctions, conflict affecting our ability to invoice and to do banking normally - Inflation and increased costs (for everything) for the RIPE NCC - Economic problems for our members translating into lack of support for some of our activities, inability for people to attend events, etc. - Increasing costs of IPv4 pushing people towards IPv6 (e.g. see AWS, Google now charging for IPv4 but not for IPv6) - Consolidation in the membership leading to budgetary constraints - Restoration of EU-UK ties potentially bringing some economic benefits within the service region ** Social (membership/community) - See previous slides - conflict causing friction among members/community, economic difficulties for us and members, etc. - Difficulties in being neutral and in appearing to be neutral - Divergence between values of RIPE and societal values - community decisions could be driven by groups with goals at odds with our mission/values - The need to attract a new generation of active participants was highlighted by many - Members coming to see the RIPE NCC purely as a service provider - Difficulties in reaching consensus and in having productive discussions - Large layoffs in tech sector influencing who comes to our events - Increasing scarcity of IPv4 leading to dissatisfaction with our role and lack of engagement among newer members - Lack of understanding of our processes, governance, funding model, etc. - Lack of engagement generally - Communication changes, a distributed community, decreasing use of email/mailing lists - Calls for cost reductions are persistent and loud among some groups in our membership/community ** Technological - Increased use of AI and automation of processes, including how it affects current staffing needs - Increased adoption of IPv6, especially given charging by AWS/Google for IPv4 and economic difficulties affecting everyone - Difficulties in a) moving things to the cloud, and b) not moving things to the cloud - Potential (esp. with machine learning) to provide much greater value from our data and information services - The growth of the Internet making accurate registration difficult - Ever-increasing focus on security-related matters - Technological impacts on engagement (email, reduced ability to rely on social media, use of AI to astroturf mailing lists, etc.) ** Legal - EU and NL legislation (tax, pensions, whistleblowing, privacy, sustainability) impacting our operations - Increase in cybercrime leading to stricter legislation - More desire from governments to secure the technical, commercial and governance aspects of the Internet - Sanctions preventing us from being able to service all members equally - Authoritarian governments enacting legislation that conflict with our role as an RIR - Lack of technical knowledge or inability to activate the community resulting in bad legislation being passed - Inability to use technologies linked to countries the EU sees as unfriendly - Potential EU court case that would invalidate the safe exchange of information between the EU and the US ** Environmental - Climate change leading to more countries in distress and the need to cater for members in those countries within regular processes - Legislation on sustainability and environmental matters forcing us to operate within a certain carbon footprint - Reduced ability to travel due to increasing costs and also perception that travel is bad for the environment and unnecessary - Reduced ability for our community to travel and attend events - Staff movement - need to hire abroad due to rising costs in the Netherlands On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
________________________________ From: ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 To: ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> Subject: [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes
Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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Hi Fergal, Thanks for sharing the writeup (list), I appreciate it. I recognize many things that have been mentioned in the past in either meetings or on this mailing list. Kaj ________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Fergal Cunningham <fergalc@ripe.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 12:02 To: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Hi Kaj, I presented the PESTLE Analysis to the Board having collated the factors internally among staff. For those unfamiliar with PESTLE Analysis, it's basically identification of factors in six areas that might impact an organisation's strategy or business in the coming years. It's intended to give an idea of the environment we'll have to operate in going forward. There are lots of references online but the wikipedia page on this is a good starting point: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPEST_analysis&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cc413fba297144f5f1c3e08dbd5394ff9%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338214371024002%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NgiArqfUV0%2Fttphf2xtaL5gO0T%2FPb%2BrAl7PkYGkS90s%3D&reserved=0<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEST_analysis> The presentation I gave to the Board listed the common factors identified and it's worth noting that the list presented was not exhaustive - many more factors were identified by staff but the presentation gave the most common factors. If you think we miss anything important, feel free to let us know. For comparison, the summary of the analysis we did in 2021 when we made the strategic plan can be found on page 5 of the RIPE NCC Strategy 2022-2026: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fpublications%2Fdocs%2Fripe-774&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cc413fba297144f5f1c3e08dbd5394ff9%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338214371024002%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=oNREKh6i6BjRQcYRTY6VPvVINVf7LymA1%2Fs%2BBqRfv%2Bo%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-774> Here is what I presented in plaintext in case anyone wants to comment on them in the mail thread... All the best, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC ** Political - The Russia-Ukraine war and factors arising from that, as well as geopolitical conflicts more generally, and cyberspace increasingly being a front in these conflicts - Sanctions (Russia, Iran, Syria), energy costs and inflation impacting our ability to do business with all parts of our service region - NL and EU legislating in a way that affects our operations - Environmental issues driving political instability and conflict - Authoritarianism is seen by many as a potential issue, especially in terms of countries seeking to gain more control over the Internet - Trend towards mistrust in institutions together with rampant misinformation - AFRINIC’s issues and potential attempts to similarly disrupt the RIPE NCC ** Economic - See previous slide - War, sanctions, conflict affecting our ability to invoice and to do banking normally - Inflation and increased costs (for everything) for the RIPE NCC - Economic problems for our members translating into lack of support for some of our activities, inability for people to attend events, etc. - Increasing costs of IPv4 pushing people towards IPv6 (e.g. see AWS, Google now charging for IPv4 but not for IPv6) - Consolidation in the membership leading to budgetary constraints - Restoration of EU-UK ties potentially bringing some economic benefits within the service region ** Social (membership/community) - See previous slides - conflict causing friction among members/community, economic difficulties for us and members, etc. - Difficulties in being neutral and in appearing to be neutral - Divergence between values of RIPE and societal values - community decisions could be driven by groups with goals at odds with our mission/values - The need to attract a new generation of active participants was highlighted by many - Members coming to see the RIPE NCC purely as a service provider - Difficulties in reaching consensus and in having productive discussions - Large layoffs in tech sector influencing who comes to our events - Increasing scarcity of IPv4 leading to dissatisfaction with our role and lack of engagement among newer members - Lack of understanding of our processes, governance, funding model, etc. - Lack of engagement generally - Communication changes, a distributed community, decreasing use of email/mailing lists - Calls for cost reductions are persistent and loud among some groups in our membership/community ** Technological - Increased use of AI and automation of processes, including how it affects current staffing needs - Increased adoption of IPv6, especially given charging by AWS/Google for IPv4 and economic difficulties affecting everyone - Difficulties in a) moving things to the cloud, and b) not moving things to the cloud - Potential (esp. with machine learning) to provide much greater value from our data and information services - The growth of the Internet making accurate registration difficult - Ever-increasing focus on security-related matters - Technological impacts on engagement (email, reduced ability to rely on social media, use of AI to astroturf mailing lists, etc.) ** Legal - EU and NL legislation (tax, pensions, whistleblowing, privacy, sustainability) impacting our operations - Increase in cybercrime leading to stricter legislation - More desire from governments to secure the technical, commercial and governance aspects of the Internet - Sanctions preventing us from being able to service all members equally - Authoritarian governments enacting legislation that conflict with our role as an RIR - Lack of technical knowledge or inability to activate the community resulting in bad legislation being passed - Inability to use technologies linked to countries the EU sees as unfriendly - Potential EU court case that would invalidate the safe exchange of information between the EU and the US ** Environmental - Climate change leading to more countries in distress and the need to cater for members in those countries within regular processes - Legislation on sustainability and environmental matters forcing us to operate within a certain carbon footprint - Reduced ability to travel due to increasing costs and also perception that travel is bad for the environment and unnecessary - Reduced ability for our community to travel and attend events - Staff movement - need to hire abroad due to rising costs in the Netherlands On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
________________________________ From: ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 To: ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> Subject: [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes
Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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Hello Kaj, Regarding your comment on “bigger investment portfolios yield better returns”, you are indeed correct. Oversight on my part reviewing the executive board minutes. As presented in the EB meeting: Larger investment portfolios can increase opportunities for a better return and a reduction of risk based on: Lower cost level Larger investment portfolios benefit from cost advantages as it reduces the impact of fixed costs and opens the opportunities for lower fund fees, improving overall net returns Increased possibilities for diversification Reduction of portfolio risk by increased diversification opportunities using multiple investment funds with different sources of risk, lowering the overall risk level of the investment portfolio Overall bigger investment portfolios do not directly increase the yield, however with a larger portfolio, more possibilities are available, which in turn could have a positive impact on the return. Thanks and kind regards, Simon Jan Haytink RIPE NCC CFO On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 *To:* ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> *Subject:* [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
Minutes of the 168th Meeting: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C7dc8cf1c2b18484606e208dbd3a6775b%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638336484161893667%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=93CAzORi736aAsgc%2FvEFuJd6ef2onivzlnQ%2BalQ7J8I%3D&reserved=0 <https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting>
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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Hi Simon-Jan and ALL. My 5 cents. All what Kaz wrote, I was talking at the last meeting. Investing money now is like buring money in a field of miracles in the land of fools (please read russian Buratino, Pinocchio's fairy tale). The best thing to do now is to pay tax in the Netherlands and withdraw money to accounts in yuan and rubles. This will be a loss for us, but not as big as it will happen if we leave the accumulated funds in Euros in the EU.
Hello Kaj,
Regarding your comment on “bigger investment portfolios yield better returns”, you are indeed correct. Oversight on my part reviewing the executive board minutes.
As presented in the EB meeting:
Larger investment portfolios can increase opportunities for a better return and a reduction of risk based on:
Lower cost level Larger investment portfolios benefit from cost advantages as it reduces the impact of fixed costs and opens the opportunities for lower fund fees, improving overall net returns
Increased possibilities for diversification Reduction of portfolio risk by increased diversification opportunities using multiple investment funds with different sources of risk, lowering the overall risk level of the investment portfolio
Overall bigger investment portfolios do not directly increase the yield, however with a larger portfolio, more possibilities are available, which in turn could have a positive impact on the return.
Thanks and kind regards,
Simon Jan Haytink RIPE NCC CFO
On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 *To:* ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> *Subject:* [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
Minutes of the 168th Meeting: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C7dc8cf1c2b18484606e208dbd3a6775b%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638336484161893667%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=93CAzORi736aAsgc%2FvEFuJd6ef2onivzlnQ%2BalQ7J8I%3D&reserved=0 <https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting>
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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Sorry! My mistake in the previous message. Of course Kaj, not Kaz.
Hi Simon-Jan and ALL.
My 5 cents. All what Kaz wrote, I was talking at the last meeting.
Investing money now is like buring money in a field of miracles in the land of fools (please read russian Buratino, Pinocchio's fairy tale).
The best thing to do now is to pay tax in the Netherlands and withdraw money to accounts in yuan and rubles.
This will be a loss for us, but not as big as it will happen if we leave the accumulated funds in Euros in the EU.
Hello Kaj,
Regarding your comment on “bigger investment portfolios yield better returns”, you are indeed correct. Oversight on my part reviewing the executive board minutes.
As presented in the EB meeting:
Larger investment portfolios can increase opportunities for a better return and a reduction of risk based on:
Lower cost level Larger investment portfolios benefit from cost advantages as it reduces the impact of fixed costs and opens the opportunities for lower fund fees, improving overall net returns
Increased possibilities for diversification Reduction of portfolio risk by increased diversification opportunities using multiple investment funds with different sources of risk, lowering the overall risk level of the investment portfolio
Overall bigger investment portfolios do not directly increase the yield, however with a larger portfolio, more possibilities are available, which in turn could have a positive impact on the return.
Thanks and kind regards,
Simon Jan Haytink RIPE NCC CFO
On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 *To:* ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> *Subject:* [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
Minutes of the 168th Meeting: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C7dc8cf1c2b18484606e208dbd3a6775b%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638336484161893667%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=93CAzORi736aAsgc%2FvEFuJd6ef2onivzlnQ%2BalQ7J8I%3D&reserved=0 <https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting>
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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Hey, no hard feelings. I tell the baristas at Starbucks that my name is John since it is easier to pronounce everywhere ?? Kaj ________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of sdy@a-n-t.ru <sdy@a-n-t.ru> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 14:13 To: sdy@a-n-t.ru <sdy@a-n-t.ru> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Sorry! My mistake in the previous message. Of course Kaj, not Kaz.
Hi Simon-Jan and ALL.
My 5 cents. All what Kaz wrote, I was talking at the last meeting.
Investing money now is like buring money in a field of miracles in the land of fools (please read russian Buratino, Pinocchio's fairy tale).
The best thing to do now is to pay tax in the Netherlands and withdraw money to accounts in yuan and rubles.
This will be a loss for us, but not as big as it will happen if we leave the accumulated funds in Euros in the EU.
Hello Kaj,
Regarding your comment on “bigger investment portfolios yield better returns”, you are indeed correct. Oversight on my part reviewing the executive board minutes.
As presented in the EB meeting:
Larger investment portfolios can increase opportunities for a better return and a reduction of risk based on:
Lower cost level Larger investment portfolios benefit from cost advantages as it reduces the impact of fixed costs and opens the opportunities for lower fund fees, improving overall net returns
Increased possibilities for diversification Reduction of portfolio risk by increased diversification opportunities using multiple investment funds with different sources of risk, lowering the overall risk level of the investment portfolio
Overall bigger investment portfolios do not directly increase the yield, however with a larger portfolio, more possibilities are available, which in turn could have a positive impact on the return.
Thanks and kind regards,
Simon Jan Haytink RIPE NCC CFO
On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 *To:* ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> *Subject:* [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
Minutes of the 168th Meeting: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C13f813d97cf043cf2cbf08dbd54b83d7%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338292545362963%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xRS7PaYuTELOxXfwJAJt6J1qPjXIfjlgyQLITlNqdVA%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C13f813d97cf043cf2cbf08dbd54b83d7%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338292545362963%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xRS7PaYuTELOxXfwJAJt6J1qPjXIfjlgyQLITlNqdVA%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting>>
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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Hi, I think you will be hard pressed to find any portfolio manager who would recommend a move to yuan or rubles. Similarly, I think a moving from a financial system with free flows of capital to ones with restrictive capital controls and authoritarian governments isn't very realistic. Sorry, but not sorry. 😉 In any case, the treasure statute that was updated last summer and can be found here https://www.ripe.net/about-us/legal/corporate-governance/treasury-statute/ri..., is quite comprehensive, specifies a basket consisting of relatively safe asset classes, prohibits hedging and answers most [my] questions.. As I tend to voice my opinion about many things, the only thing I really disagree with is the ESG-ness part. I get that "people" want ESG but see below. The statute also doesn't seem to prohibit the use of leverage but it's probably off the table anyhow (any return, whether positive or negative, would be amplified). While well intended, ESG tends to (still) be full of greenwash, happy thoughts, fluffy marketing stuff, good intentions, etc. Any claims made by companies and ratings agencies are incredibly difficult or impossible to verify in depth. If one bothers to read the S&P RobecoSAM (etc.) ESG ratings fine print, they admit that they can pull "answers" out of thin air if companies do not bother to answer their questionnaires. So, it is what it is. Still, if enough investors want accountability for ESG perhaps it will eventually change for the better. Kaj ________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of sdy@a-n-t.ru <sdy@a-n-t.ru> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 14:06 To: Simon-Jan Haytink <simonjh@ripe.net> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Hi Simon-Jan and ALL. My 5 cents. All what Kaz wrote, I was talking at the last meeting. Investing money now is like buring money in a field of miracles in the land of fools (please read russian Buratino, Pinocchio's fairy tale). The best thing to do now is to pay tax in the Netherlands and withdraw money to accounts in yuan and rubles. This will be a loss for us, but not as big as it will happen if we leave the accumulated funds in Euros in the EU.
Hello Kaj,
Regarding your comment on “bigger investment portfolios yield better returns”, you are indeed correct. Oversight on my part reviewing the executive board minutes.
As presented in the EB meeting:
Larger investment portfolios can increase opportunities for a better return and a reduction of risk based on:
Lower cost level Larger investment portfolios benefit from cost advantages as it reduces the impact of fixed costs and opens the opportunities for lower fund fees, improving overall net returns
Increased possibilities for diversification Reduction of portfolio risk by increased diversification opportunities using multiple investment funds with different sources of risk, lowering the overall risk level of the investment portfolio
Overall bigger investment portfolios do not directly increase the yield, however with a larger portfolio, more possibilities are available, which in turn could have a positive impact on the return.
Thanks and kind regards,
Simon Jan Haytink RIPE NCC CFO
On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 *To:* ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> *Subject:* [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
Minutes of the 168th Meeting: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C91c33375d07143de614c08dbd54a8bbf%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338288372615368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BDqN5Am5l1Rrvs3EpWQZwbuGsng8M7Py0SmuaT2%2B3F0%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C91c33375d07143de614c08dbd54a8bbf%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338288372615368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BDqN5Am5l1Rrvs3EpWQZwbuGsng8M7Py0SmuaT2%2B3F0%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting>>
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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Hi! A portfolio manager is not needed. You just need to withdraw the accounts from the jurisdiction of the EU and euros, but not in dollars. A catastrophe in the euro area is already inevitable. It's only a matter of time. All investment savings in EU will be reset to zero, and accounts (especially savings accounts) will be frozen. In general, the point is that all accumulations turn into 0. You just can't imagine that this is possible. In the USSR in 1989, everyone also thought that nothing could happen to their savings and money. It is not necessary to repeat other people's mistakes, and even more so it is not worth learning from your mistakes.
I think you will be hard pressed to find any portfolio manager who would recommend a move to yuan or rubles. Similarly, I think a moving from a financial system with free flows of capital to ones with restrictive capital controls and authoritarian governments isn't very realistic. Sorry, but not sorry. 😉
In any case, the treasure statute that was updated last summer and can be found here https://www.ripe.net/about-us/legal/corporate-governance/treasury-statute/ri..., is quite comprehensive, specifies a basket consisting of relatively safe asset classes, prohibits hedging and answers most [my] questions.. As I tend to voice my opinion about many things, the only thing I really disagree with is the ESG-ness part. I get that "people" want ESG but see below. The statute also doesn't seem to prohibit the use of leverage but it's probably off the table anyhow (any return, whether positive or negative, would be amplified).
While well intended, ESG tends to (still) be full of greenwash, happy thoughts, fluffy marketing stuff, good intentions, etc. Any claims made by companies and ratings agencies are incredibly difficult or impossible to verify in depth. If one bothers to read the S&P RobecoSAM (etc.) ESG ratings fine print, they admit that they can pull "answers" out of thin air if companies do not bother to answer their questionnaires. So, it is what it is. Still, if enough investors want accountability for ESG perhaps it will eventually change for the better.
Kaj
________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of sdy@a-n-t.ru <sdy@a-n-t.ru> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 14:06 To: Simon-Jan Haytink <simonjh@ripe.net> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes
Hi Simon-Jan and ALL.
My 5 cents. All what Kaz wrote, I was talking at the last meeting.
Investing money now is like buring money in a field of miracles in the land of fools (please read russian Buratino, Pinocchio's fairy tale).
The best thing to do now is to pay tax in the Netherlands and withdraw money to accounts in yuan and rubles.
This will be a loss for us, but not as big as it will happen if we leave the accumulated funds in Euros in the EU.
Hello Kaj,
Regarding your comment on “bigger investment portfolios yield better returns”, you are indeed correct. Oversight on my part reviewing the executive board minutes.
As presented in the EB meeting:
Larger investment portfolios can increase opportunities for a better return and a reduction of risk based on:
Lower cost level Larger investment portfolios benefit from cost advantages as it reduces the impact of fixed costs and opens the opportunities for lower fund fees, improving overall net returns
Increased possibilities for diversification Reduction of portfolio risk by increased diversification opportunities using multiple investment funds with different sources of risk, lowering the overall risk level of the investment portfolio
Overall bigger investment portfolios do not directly increase the yield, however with a larger portfolio, more possibilities are available, which in turn could have a positive impact on the return.
Thanks and kind regards,
Simon Jan Haytink RIPE NCC CFO
On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 *To:* ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> *Subject:* [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
Minutes of the 168th Meeting: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C91c33375d07143de614c08dbd54a8bbf%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338288372615368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BDqN5Am5l1Rrvs3EpWQZwbuGsng8M7Py0SmuaT2%2B3F0%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7C91c33375d07143de614c08dbd54a8bbf%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338288372615368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BDqN5Am5l1Rrvs3EpWQZwbuGsng8M7Py0SmuaT2%2B3F0%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting>>
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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i never expected to learn so much from experts on international high finance on the members' list. really appreciated. randy
On 25.10.2023 21:43, Randy Bush wrote:
i never expected to learn so much from experts on international high finance on the members' list. really appreciated.
randy
What I've read is rather not financial advice, but a reflection of already dead empire's agonistic convulsions in specific individual's posts. Or not individual's. Kind regards, VZ31-RIPE
Hi Simon-Jan, Appreciate the clarification. 🙂 Kaj ________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Simon-Jan Haytink <simonjh@ripe.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 12:10 To: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes [You don't often get email from simonjh@ripe.net. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] Hello Kaj, Regarding your comment on “bigger investment portfolios yield better returns”, you are indeed correct. Oversight on my part reviewing the executive board minutes. As presented in the EB meeting: Larger investment portfolios can increase opportunities for a better return and a reduction of risk based on: Lower cost level Larger investment portfolios benefit from cost advantages as it reduces the impact of fixed costs and opens the opportunities for lower fund fees, improving overall net returns Increased possibilities for diversification Reduction of portfolio risk by increased diversification opportunities using multiple investment funds with different sources of risk, lowering the overall risk level of the investment portfolio Overall bigger investment portfolios do not directly increase the yield, however with a larger portfolio, more possibilities are available, which in turn could have a positive impact on the return. Thanks and kind regards, Simon Jan Haytink RIPE NCC CFO On 24/10/2023 09:47, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for a comprehensive report as always. They are interesting to read.
Do you think it would be useful to share the PESTEL analysis (slides and/or report, I assume) with the membership? At least I am curious about the factors NCC itself thinks affect it.
Regarding "bigger investment portfolios yield better returns" - I do not think that is how it works.. perhaps something else was originally intended to be written? In terms of return, higher expected returns should equal willingness to accept higher volatility (risk) in relative terms. The portfolio size itself only amplifies the return, whether positive or negative.
Kaj
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ncc-announce <ncc-announce-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce@ripe.net> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 11:42 *To:* ncc-announce@ripe.net <ncc-announce@ripe.net> *Subject:* [ncc-announce] [news] 168th RIPE NCC Executive Board Meeting - Summary Notes Dear RIPE NCC members,
The RIPE NCC Executive Board held its 168th Meeting on 6 October 2023. The minutes are now available.
Minutes of the 168th Meeting: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ce897986df4ab4847733d08dbd53a6245%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338218971907836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5%2FdLvBXUXK4eWtFYJMY57klcb34Ztuple8H62GSfpPk%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fabout-us%2Fexecutive-board%2Fminutes%2F2023%2Fminutes-168th-executive-board-meeting&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ce897986df4ab4847733d08dbd53a6245%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638338218971907836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C7000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5%2FdLvBXUXK4eWtFYJMY57klcb34Ztuple8H62GSfpPk%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2023/minutes-168th-executive-board-meeting>>
The Executive Board publishes the minutes of its meetings so that the workings of the Board and the decisions it makes are transparent to the membership it represents. The following is a summary of the main items from the meeting. Further details are available in the minutes.
----------------------- Main Items -----------------------
- I presented on the status of Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and planned OKRs for 2024. I also provided insights on staff engagement and presented a Risk Update.
- I updated the Board on the developments around AFRINIC. The Board were pleased to hear that there has been a ruling to appoint an Official Receiver and welcomed the appointment of John Crain as an expert observer to support the Receiver.
- Mirjam Kühne shared her report on developments in the RIPE community.
- The Board discussed whether to continue providing funding support on request for Working Group (WG) Chairs. It was agreed that this encourages potential WG Chairs and to continue this funding for another three years.
- Fergal Cunningham presented the results of a PESTLE analysis carried out with staff in July 2023.
- Fergal presented the findings and key takeaways of the RIPE NCC Survey 2023 and shared the draft report with the Board.
- Fergal also presented the Draft Activity Plan and Budget 2024 and asked the Board for comments before the draft was published to members. The Board reviewed the document and shared feedback.
- Simon-Jan Haytink presented the financial report for August 2023. He also shared the draft budget for 2024 and the status of the Treasury project.
- Athina Fragkouli presented proposed amendments to the Articles of Association on requirements for Executive Board candidates.
- The Board reviewed and agreed to proposed amendments to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions which include the provision of geolocation information as a purpose of the RIPE Database.
- James Kennedy presented the outcome of the analysis of Membership Non-Payments.
- Fergal shared the draft agenda for the upcoming General Meeting with the regular topics for the Autumn General Meeting.
- Felipe Victolla Silveira presented on the usability of the IPv4 Transfer Broker List provided by the RIPE NCC.
- Felipe also presented a retention strategy for the data from Routing Information Service (RIS) and RIPE Atlas.
---------------------------- Resolutions Adopted ----------------------------
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the minutes of EB#167.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves that the RIPE NCC will continue to provide funds for the physical participation of working group chairs at RIPE Meetings in accordance with the relevant published procedure until the end of 2026. The RIPE NCC Executive Board will re-evaluate this resolution for the RIPE Meetings after 2026.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves an initial investment of 10 M EUR with the investment partner.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE Database Terms and Conditions”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources Procedure”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Website and Publicly Available RIPE NCC Services Terms of Service”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the amendments to the “RIPE NCC Privacy Statement”.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board approves the publication of the draft agenda for the RIPE NCC General Meeting in November 2023.
- The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to decommission the IPv4 Transfer Broker List and the IPv4 Transfer Listing service.
Kind regards,
Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer RIPE NCC
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participants (6)
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Fergal Cunningham -
Kaj Niemi -
Randy Bush -
sdy＠a-n-t.ru -
Simon-Jan Haytink -
Vitalii Zubok