Dear Sergey, I think what he wanted to express was that the decision was, not as expected by everybody, quite close. For the second point: We've had a vote and a result. Nobody would say that there was any fraud involved or that votes were counted incorrectly. So, for everybody who doesn't like the result: deal with it. What do you want? Running the vote over and over again until you get the result that fits you? That’s a nice approach but: No, this is not how voting works - at least not as long as we have a democracy. And - lets get serious - we're talking about 54€/month that’s what the vast majority of LIRs in category 4 would have paid less if the vote fell for scheme B. Quite a lot of noise over 8 glasses of beer. Cheers to that, Karl -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Sergey Myasoedov via members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net> Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2026 13:30 An: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@asiera.ie>; members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: [members-discuss] Re: Analysis on May 2026 GM Brian,
vote comes down to basically a coinflip
I think you are devaluing the value of 3000 votes and the signals received.
My second point is that the NCC Board, like the Board of any company, have to have the opportunity to make a recommendation to the members on a resolution. That is perfectly normal Board activity and it is then up to the members to decide if we agree or not.
I don't think so. Given the numerous emails I received, I felt under pressure. -- Best regards, Sergey Myasoedov
On 6/22/2026, at 12:49, Brian Nisbet via members-discuss <members-discuss@ripe.net> wrote:
Good Morning,
I'd like to address two things here.
Even though I disagree with your point/interpretation, Andy, I do understand how you got there. I would like to thank the NCC team for the write up and analysis, even though such analysis is so hard when the vote comes down to basically a coinflip. I think it's quite possible that on a different day the vote might go a different way, but I did not take the RIPE Labs piece as an attempt to re-run it. The membership have spoken and the matter should be settled for a decent period of time.
My second point is that the NCC Board, like the Board of any company, have to have the opportunity to make a recommendation to the members on a resolution. That is perfectly normal Board activity and it is then up to the members to decide if we agree or not.
Brian
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On 19/06/2026 17:39:16, "Gert Doering" <gert@space.net> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 10:34:55AM +0000, Brandon Butterworth wrote:
I read that as RIPE wanted B, that it is just the board saying it does not mark it any less an organisational desire. Perhaps in these matter all of RIPE should be neutral, after all the budget is the same so it is purely a members choice no advocacy needed.
Please be very precise with your terminology here. *RIPE* has no say whatsoever in financial matters. There is the RIPE NCC, the RIPE NCC executive board, and the RIPE NCC members.
That confusion was my entire point.
It appeared to be those offering a model choice preferred B, it was offered to vote by NCC and promoted by the board and the timing of the advocacy easily led one to read it as both were promoting it, where it should only be the membership that has an opinion on which is best.
brandon
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