Am Donnerstag, 4. Juni 2026, 19:05:00 UTC+00:00:01 schrieb Jochen Bern:
Their buyers will continue to buy from *them*, rather than waiting to obtain IPv4 space from RIPE, because the price and delay comparisons between the two have merely shifted, not changed fundamentally. hmm, i did the opposite...
And i got -2 years ago - the recommendation from colleagues to create sereval LIRs just to get a single /24 (merging into one existing LIR account to save money after the minimum merge window) to rent or sell it later. "Many of us did and do that...". I just can imagine how many LIRs until today are secondary accounts of larger LIRs (which includes their ability to vote "multiple times" btw.)
Those who "sit on unused address space" will be more tempted than ever to sell it - on the market, not handing it to RIPE, of course - for the increased price. for first - it makes no big difference at the end me if they sell it or give it to RIPE as the current market prices orient on the LIR cost plus waiting until merging fees plus some profit.
Which they may or may not find a *compelling* reason to. (Sure, if you were to *quintuple* the price in one fell swoop ...) This seems economically incorrect and you dont take into account the fuller market picture including demand and market available resources.
If the amount of unused IPv4 space getting to market getting up, prices will go down because the demand will not grow with higher prices, but the costs to hold unusued and unrented ressources will. Speculating with the reource is getting less interesting then today. The amount of available IP space to rent for overpriced today is way over the demand for such a product. Lot of holders sit on their IP space hoping to get it rented per some agency or selled even more expensive or at least more profitable after all in the future. But to be true: i personally know several very large and old companies holding IP space from very early RIPE times in huge amounts (i.e. /16), while practically using few percent of it (1-2 /24) and by consolidating would need even much less. If costs would significaantly go up to them, it would make pressure to change the space for smaller space or at least sell (or rent) more space out to the market, leading to lower prices. With higher fees pressure to give up such ressources will go up. cheers, niels. -- --- Niels Dettenbach Syndicat IT & Internet https://www.syndicat.com PGP: https://syndicat.com/pub_key.asc ---