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Re: Reminder that Charging Scheme Task Force comments are open until the end of the month
by D. Walde - Walde IT-Systeme 28 May '25

28 May '25

I have the same problem myself. As a newbie, I only got an IPv4 network through the waiting list. I hope it's finally my turn in a month or two. I've worked my way up from 1183rd place to 72nd place. Given the current international situation with IPv6, I urgently need it if I want to make any money with services for businesses. And as a web host who rents out VServers, you really need more than a /24; even as a small company, I would like a /22. All customers want cheap VServers. But they have both IPv4 and IPv6. I don't get any money for pure IPv6 VServers. I'm the last person who doesn't support IPv6 only. But I also believe that as long as /16 and more are just lying around in the corners and some people are making a lot of money by selling and renting IPv4, IPv6 will only be running on the side for the next 20 years because some people can no longer get IPv4 or can only afford it. I currently have IPv6-only in my test infrastructure to test where it still has problems. Likewise, I need to be able to read and write IPv6 addresses, not just 255.255.255.255, which is much easier for many people and IPv6 is not even being considered. What is currently bothering me is the fee model. I have almost no chance of earning money and my costs are extreme, especially in Germany, for connections and electricity. But I have the same membership fee as those who use IPv4 as a money-making machine, and we are even at the mercy of the situation because of the general stock and have to rent or buy to have any future as a business. Something simply has to be done more vigorously. Even if it only means turning off IPv4 worldwide on January 1, 2028, for example. -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Walde IT-Systemhaus - CEO Dirk Walde - IT-Specialist

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Revisited: Concerns about cloud usage at RIPE NCC
by Timo Hilbrink 11 May '25

11 May '25

Hi all, Last november i wrote a post to this mailinglist, voicing my concerns about the wide use of US based cloud services at the RIPE NCC. This was just before the US elections took place. RIPE NCC (Felipe) responded to my concerns, and the last sentence of that mail was: "It is difficult to run our operations if we have to speculate on what governments can and cannot do. Instead, we apply a risk-based approach, paying close attention to the contracts we sign with these providers and ensuring that the obligations described in them give the highest possible level of privacy and security for our members." Now, a lot has happened in the world since november, and without going into every detail, i think it is safe to conclude that the US and its big tech companies can no longer be seen as reliable partners when it comes to storing our personal data. In fact it could soon become illegal for EU businesses and organisations to store personal data on US owned cloud platforms; the Transatlantic Data Privacy Framework (TADPF) that allows a free flow of EU data to US providers relies on the "Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" (PCLOB) for oversight on data protection laws. Already in january, Mr Trump fired all democratic board members of the PCLOB, rendering the board powerless, as they now lack the required quorum necessary to operate. This means that the foundation of the TADPF has essentially been removed, and while EU organisations can still rely on the agreement as long as it's not formally annulled by the European Commission or the Court of Justice, it is now more important than ever to have a contingency plan. So, since the RIPE NCC applies a risk-based approach, my question would be: What contingency plan is there in place for the RIPE NCC? How quickly can they switch to a self hosted or "hosted in Europe" model, while still providing essential services to the members? * Some relevant links with more background information: https://noyb.eu/en/us-cloud-soon-illegal-trump-punches-first-hole-eu-us-dat… https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trump-s-sacking-of-pclob-members-threa… https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-your-government-an… Timo Hilbrink Freedom Internet

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Recording of Meet the RIPE NCC Executive Board Candidates Open House Now Available
by Fergal Cunningham 09 May '25

09 May '25

Dear all, The recording of this week’s Meet the RIPE NCC Executive Board Candidates Open House is now available to watch: https://www.ripe.net/meetings/open-house/meet-the-executive-board-candidate… All three candidates (Randy Bush, Ondřej Filip and Kevin Meynell) answered questions on a range of topics of interest to the membership. If you’d like to follow up with the candidates on any of the topics raised, or ask them different questions, you should feel free to do so on this list. Finally, please remember to register for next week’s General Meeting (GM) so that you can cast your vote for your preferred candidates, as well as the resolutions that members vote on. You can do this very quickly and easily via the LIR Portal: https://my.ripe.net/#/meetings/active All the information you need to participate fully in the GM is available from: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2025/ Kind regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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Meet the Executive Board Candidates Open House Starts Soon
by Fergal Cunningham 07 May '25

07 May '25

Dear all, The Open House where members can hear from and speak to the candidates for the RIPE NCC Executive Board will start in 30 minutes (13:00 UTC). You can still register from the following link if you would like to join (the link to join the Meetecho platform will be included in your registration confirmation mail). https://www.ripe.net/meetings/open-house/meet-the-executive-board-candidate… And I will of course let you know when we publish the recording in case you can’t make it today. Best regards, Fergal

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Engaging with the RIPE NCC Executive Board Candidates
by Fergal Cunningham 02 May '25

02 May '25

Dear all, At the upcoming General Meeting, there will be an election to fill two seats on the RIPE NCC Executive Board. The three candidates for those seats are: - Randy Bush - Ondřej Filip - Kevin Meynell We are holding an online event for members to meet the candidates on Wednesday, 7 May 2025 from 13:00 - 14:30 UTC / 15:00 - 16:30 CEST. You can register for this Open House at: https://www.ripe.net/meetings/open-house/meet-the-executive-board-candidate… This is your opportunity to hear directly from the candidates as they introduce themselves and explain why they are standing for election. Members can also ask questions on the issues that matter to them. The session will be hosted on the Meetecho platform. All registered participants will receive a link in an email on the day of the event. A recording will also be available for those unable to attend. The candidates are also subscribed to the members-discuss mailing list, so feel free to post your questions to this list as well. Kevin Meynell is not a representative for a RIPE NCC member, but he is subscribed to this list for the period of the election so he can respond to any member questions and participate in discussions as a candidate. The candidates’ biographies and motivations are all published at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2025/executive-board-electi… We encourage all members to register to attend the GM and vote on resolutions and in the Executive Board election. You can register directly via the LIR Portal at: https://my.ripe.net/#/meetings/active The final agenda is now available from the GM webpages, where you can find all information related to the meeting: https://www.ripe.net/s/gm/may-2025 We look forward to your participation in the General Meeting. Kind regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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Re: [ncc-announce] [news] Draft Report of the Charging Scheme Task Force
by Randy Bush 23 Apr '25

23 Apr '25

> The RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task Force has published its draft report > containing the principles that it proposes should guide a new charging > scheme model for the RIPE NCC. > > The draft report is available at: > > https://www.ripe.net/documents/4012/Draft_Report_of_the_RIPE_NCC_Charging_S… i am impressed. broad stokes, avoids micro-management, acknowledges history while moving forward. props to the task force. ( and it does not say icann once! :) randy

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Charging Scheme Task Force Meeting Minutes (10 March 2025)
by Karla Liddle-White 03 Apr '25

03 Apr '25

Dear all, The RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task Force held a meeting on 10 March. The minutes are now available at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/cha… <https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/cha…> The task force welcomes comments on the minutes, either on the list here or you can email them directly at: charging-scheme-task-force2024(a)ripe.net Best regards, Karla Liddle-White Senior Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q2 2025
by Adonis Stergiopoulos 27 Mar '25

27 Mar '25

Dear colleagues, We have now published the upcoming quarterly plans for our development teams: https://www.ripe.net/quarterly-planning We publish these plans each quarter to showcase the work items we will be carrying out over the next months. We welcome your feedback and encourage you to suggest items that the RIPE NCC should be working on going forward. The plans cover the following areas: - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications. - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Information Security, Risk, and Compliance - Training and Certification If you have any questions or input on these plans, please share your suggestions on this list or the RIPE NCC Forum: https://forum.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Adonis Stergiopoulos Senior Business Analyst RIPE NCC

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Re: Charging Scheme Task Force Meeting Minutes (24 February 2025)
by Andy Davidson 13 Mar '25

13 Mar '25

Hi, Karla, all – Karla wrote: > The RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task > Force held a meeting on 24 February > and the minutes are now available at: As a member, I take a keen interest in the work of the NCC Charging Scheme Task Force 2024. However, I find the latest meeting minutes difficult to follow, particularly given that, according to the Task Force webpage [0], the group should now be well in the phase of finalising recommendations for the Executive Board (February–May 2025). The minutes do not set out a clear list of decisions or actions, nor do they indicate that the Task Force is maintaining a register of risks associated with its recommendations, something I would expect, even if not explicitly mandated. From the minutes, it appears that the group has agreed to recommend: o The disaggregation of membership and service fees; o The introduction of transfer fees; and o A shift to charging per membership group rather than per individual LIR. Is this the full set of recommendations? The December minutes mention a draft report, yet I have been unable to locate a copy. Moreover, the minutes suggest that, at this late stage, the Task Force has not reached consensus on several key issues. The debate over tiered transfer fees remains unresolved, particularly concerning transfers requiring additional due diligence and the treatment of legacy holders. There was broad agreement that M&A transfers should be treated as policy transfers, yet a separate flat-rate fee for M&As was proposed to account for cases such as university mergers. This seems inconsistent. If M&As are to be treated as policy transfers, why should they be subject to a different fee structure? Could you clarify: o What decisions have been made? o What actions remain outstanding? o What risks have been identified and considered? I look forward to your response, and I thank you for your continued effort on this important topic. Best, Andy Davidson ( AJBD-RIPE // uk.ask4internet ) [0] https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/cha… This email and its contents may be confidential. Access is only authorised by the intended recipient. The contents of this email may not be disclosed to, or used by, anyone other than the intended recipient, or stored or copied in any medium. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately. ASK4 Ltd. Registered in England & Wales with company number 3980594. Registered Address: Devonshire Green House, 14 Fitzwilliam Street, Sheffield, S1 4JL. ASK4 Ltd is part of the ASK4 Group which operates in Europe through various local branches and/or separate and distinct legal entities.

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Executive Board Election Code of Conduct Team for May 2025
by Piotr Strzyżewski 11 Mar '25

11 Mar '25

Dear members, The RIPE NCC Executive Board has appointed the Code of Conduct Team for the May 2025 Executive Board Election. This team will be responsible for evaluating reports of potential violations of the Executive Board Election Code of Conduct by candidates during the election process. The following individuals were selected to serve on the team for the May 2025 election: - Sebastian Becker - Töma Gavrichenkov - Arnold Nipper - Lu Heng - Luca Marini The Executive Board would like to express its gratitude to those who volunteered to take on this important work. The team helps to ensure a fair and respectful election process. We would also like to extend our thanks to the Code of Conduct Team for the May 2024 Executive Board Election for their time and contributions. Their report can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2024/executive-board-electi… <https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2024/executive-board-electi…> The minutes from the Board meeting where this decision was made are available at: https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2025/182nd-executive-… Information about the Executive Board Election Code of Conduct is available at: https://www.ripe.net/s/gm/may-2025/eb-election/coc/ Thank you to all who volunteered, and we appreciate your continued engagement in the process. Best regards, Piotr Strzyżewski RIPE NCC Executive Board Secretary

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