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Autoresponders and ticket systems
by Christopher Kunz 04 Aug '11

04 Aug '11

Hi, after taking part in the discussion, the following things happened: 1. I'm informed that Vicente Valero is out of the office. Twice. 2. I am the assignee of tickets #10982 and #10984 (probably 10985, after this message) in Private Layer Inc.'s ticket system. 3. I have issued two orders with Telekom's technical services. 4. I received two empty replies from <null(a)internet-fr.net>. 5. Anexia GmbH opened two tickets for me as well (663571, 148322). 6. Last, but not least, I now have access to the Solutios support center. To all colleagues involved in this, would you please: a) cancel tickets, accounts and whatever my postings triggered in your automatic systems. b) Remove my e-mail address from your databases immediately. c) Remove your auto-responding robots from this mailing list. At least make them honor "Precedence: bulk" headers. Thanks, Regards, and good night. --ck -- Filoo GmbH Christopher Kunz, Geschäftsführer Web: http://www.filoo.de/ E-Mail: chris(a)filoo.de Tel.: (+49) 0 52 48 / 1 89 84 -11 Fax: (+49) 0 52 48 / 1 89 84 -20 Please sign & encrypt mail wherever possible, my key: C882 8ED1 7DD1 9011 C088 EA50 5CFA 2EEB 397A CAC1 Moltkestraße 25a 33330 Gütersloh, Germany HRB4355, AG Gütersloh Geschäftsführer: S.Grewing, J.Rehpöhler, C.Kunz Folgen Sie uns auf Twitter: http://twitter.com/filoogmbh

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Response to queries on Charging Scheme Models
by Jochem de Ruig 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

Dear colleagues, Many thanks for raising these issues. This feedback is valuable for the Executive Board and Senior Management in arriving at the Charging Scheme to be presented. In response to members' queries, the two Charging Scheme models aim to maintain, as they currently are, the sponsoring contracts between LIRs and End Users for PI assignments or ASNs. It may not have been fully clear, but the Direct Assignment Users (DAUs) mentioned in the Charging Scheme document only refers to the DAUs that have a direct contractual relationship with the RIPE NCC. This follows from RIPE Policy Proposal 2007-01. The XXS category in the charging schemes caters for these DAUs. Also, there is no intention to increase the RIPE NCC financial reserve. The service fees mentioned are based on: - The current expense forecast for 2012 - The current membership growth forecast - Running a break-even budget (not adding to the RIPE NCC financial reserve) Many members noted that the fees in both models are identical. To support the discussion, we will provide an indication of the fees in Model 2 based on current PI assignment information. This will be available tomorrow. Note that the fees shown in the models are indications. At this point in time, it is not possible to properly estimate the number of PI assignments there will be and how much revenue these PI assignments will generate. This is also due to the fact that Phase 3 of Policy Proposal 2007-01 is ongoing. Because the revenue for both models will be identical, the fees in Model 2 will be lower per category than those in Model 1. We will update the pages with the change matrix, give the expected number of members per category for the two Charging Scheme models and show indicated fees for Model 2. We will also add clarification regarding PI resource holders. This will be available shortly. Kind regards, Jochem de Ruig Chief Financial Officer RIPE NCC

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idea Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst
by ZeXoTeK IT-Services | Jens Winter 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

Hello, yes the idea from Christian Wittenhorst is great. I think this is the best charging scheme for fairness over all members. By jens

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[ncc-announce] New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models: Feedback Required
by Nigel Titley 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC Executive Board will present a new Charging Scheme to the membership at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) to be held in Vienna on 2 November 2011. The Executive Board is working with the RIPE NCC Senior Management on various options that could be included in the Charging Scheme. It would like to solicit feedback from members on two Charging Scheme models before deciding on a final version to present at the GM. The two models are based on established RIPE NCC organisational principles. Both models, as well as an explanation of the models' features and differences, are presented at: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/november-2011/ripe-ncc-proposed-ne… The RIPE NCC Executive Board welcomes any feedback on the proposed models. You can provide your feedback by using the online form or by sending an email directly to agm(a)ripe.net. After considering the feedback from the membership on the proposed Charging Scheme models, the Executive Board will decide which model it will present to the membership at the GM. If you wish to discuss the proposed new Charging Scheme models with other RIPE NCC members, please start a discussion on the members-discuss(a)ripe.net mailing list. Information about this list can be found online at: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/member-support/info/membership-mailing-li… We look forward to hearing your comments. Regards, Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman

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Re: [members-discuss] idea Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst
by Xavier BEAUDOUIN 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

+1 Association kazar "Marcel Edler (Optimate-Server.de)" <medler(a)optimate-server.de> a écrit : >Hello Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst, > >this idea sounds great and should be fair for all members: > /22 EUR 502 > /21 EUR 904 > /20 EUR 1308 > /19 EUR 1716 > /18 EUR 2132 > /17 EUR 2565 > /16 EUR 3031 > /15 EUR 3562 > /14 EUR 4224 > /13 EUR 5148 > /12 EUR 6597 > /11 EUR 9094 > /10 EUR 13688 > /9 EUR 22477 > /8 EUR 39654 > >In new charging scheme I have to pay 5000 Eur for 73.440IPs >(1x/16,1x/19) like an ISP with 1.024.000 IPs (/12)! >I pay 0,068 Euro for each IP. >The ISP with 1.024.000IPs pays only 0,00488 Euro for each IP. >I have to pay !!14!! times more than the other ISP! > >I prefer Christian's idea. > >Regards, >Marcel Edler >Geschäftsinhaber > >---- >If you don't want to receive mails from the RIPE NCC Members Discuss list, please log in to your LIR Portal account at: http://lirportal.ripe.net/ >First click on General and then click on Edit. >At the bottom of the page you can add or remove addresses.

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New Charging Scheme
by ZeXoTeK IT-Services | Jens Winter 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

Hello, as Marcel wrote before, i also think the step between category M and L is to big. The Charging Scheme 2011 said: LARGE € 4,100 I think € 3,500 for catecory L should be ok, because it is between category M and L in the Charging Scheme of 2011. At this moment we have to calculate the Charging Scheme from IPv4 allocations, and IPv4 is running out. This mean, in future all LIR´s cannot get any IPv4 in big blocks so that they can use the free space in his category for growing. By Jens Winter X-NCC-RegID: de.zexotek

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New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models
by Andrey Semenchuk 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

Hello, > All contracts for any RIPE NCC products or services will be between the RIPE NCC and a member Last few years it were additional contracts between LIRs and End Users. This thesis is not clear: will be the contracts between LIRs and End Users or they will be cancelled? > The RIPE NCC Executive Board will present a new Charging Scheme to the membership at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) to be held in Vienna on 2 November 2011. > > In Model 1, there is no charge for PI assignments > In Model 2, each additional PI assignment incurs a charge of EUR 100 per assignment. This charge is an increase from the current PI charge but better reflects the amount of work the RIPE NCC must do to administer and assign PI space. There's no explanation in the new charging scheme how PI assignments will be calculated, If calculations will be the same as fot charging scheme 2011, charging scheme will be applied to the number of assignments at 30th september 2011. So, since 30th september till 2th november 2011 LIRs will not have any idea about final charging scheme but should sign agreements with End Users. As for me, provided changes shoud be discussed for charging scheme 2013 or discussion of the new charging scheme should be made before 30th september 2011 -- Best wishes, Andrey Semenchuk Trifle Internet Service Provider (056) 731-99-11 www.trifle.net

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[ncc-announce] Reminder: Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011
by Paul Rendek 25 Jul '11

25 Jul '11

[Apologies for duplicate mails] Dear Colleagues, There's just one week left to complete the Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011. Take part online now at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2011 This survey has been designed by GNKS Consult in collaboration with TNO and the RIPE NCC to further understand where the community stands on IPv6 and what needs be done to ensure that the Internet community is ready for the widespread adoption of IPv6. Anyone can participate in this survey and we hope that the results will establish a comprehensive view of current IPv6 penetration and future plans for IPv6 deployment. The survey comprises 23 questions and can be completed in about 15 minutes. For those without IPv6 allocations or assignments or who have not yet deployed IPv6, there will be fewer questions. The survey will close on 31 July 2011. We thank you for your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please email <info(a)gnksconsult.com>. For more information about the survey and links to previous year's survey results, please see: https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/news/industry-developments/globa… Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication

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Need information
by AXINET -- Laurent 13 Jul '11

13 Jul '11

Dear sir, Dear madam, I need some precisions please. Can you explain me the difference between "Direct Assignment Users" and "LIRs" ? The LIRs can make IP assignments for their own customers (for example) and Direct Assignment Users can't. Is it correct ? Best regards, Laurent Clin AXINET France

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[ncc-announce] LIR Portal: Manage Your Communication Preferences
by Paul Rendek 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Dear Colleagues, In response to feedback from RIPE NCC members, you can now decide for yourself whether you would like to receive a printed copy of the RIPE NCC Annual Report. All members will be *opted out* of receiving a printed copy of the Annual Report by default. Members can indicate that they would like to receive a printed copy by selecting the "Communication Preferences" option in LIR Portal menu and choosing "Yes please, I'd like to receive a printed copy of the Annual Report". Your preferences can be changed at any time. The Annual Report is available to anyone online and members will be notified of each new edition via the ncc-announce(a)ripe.net mailing list. The RIPE NCC Annual Report can be found online at: http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/press-centre/publications/annual-… The LIR Portal is available online at: https://lirportal.ripe.net/home/ We plan to add other publications to the opt-in/opt-out list in the future based on your feedback. If you have any comments, questions or feedback about this, please contact us at comms(a)ripe.net. Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication

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[ncc-announce] Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011 Now Open
by Paul Rendek 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

Dear Colleagues, The Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011 is now online at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2011 This survey has been designed by GNKS Consult in collaboration with TNO and the RIPE NCC to further understand where the community stands on IPv6 and what needs be done to ensure that the Internet community is ready for the widespread adoption of IPv6. Anyone can participate in this survey and we hope that the results will establish a comprehensive view of current IPv6 penetration and future plans for IPv6 deployment. The survey comprises 23 questions and can be completed in about 15 minutes. For those without IPv6 allocations or assignments or who have not yet deployed IPv6, there will be fewer questions. The survey will close on 31 July 2011. We thank you for your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please email <info(a)gnksconsult.com>. For more information about the survey and links to previous year's survey results, please see: https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/news/industry-developments/globa… Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC closed on Friday 8 July 2011
by Saskia van Gorp 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

Dear Colleagues, Our office will be closed on Friday 8 July 2011 due to the annual RIPE NCC Summer Outing. Normal office hours will resume on Monday 11 July 2011. Regards, Saskia van Gorp RIPE NCC Facilities, Administration & Reception Manager

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011
by Paul Rendek 30 Jun '11

30 Jun '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, We are delighted to report that the RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011, which closed on 18 June, received 1,266 responses. These responses will be extremely important in finding out the views of RIPE NCC members and other stakeholders on the direction the RIPE NCC should be taking as an organisation. An independent third party, the Oxford Internet Institute (OII), will conduct the analysis of the survey data. Any information that may identify the respondents will be removed by the OII and will not be made available to the RIPE NCC or published in the report. The results of the survey will be presented at the RIPE 63 Meeting, which takes place in Vienna, Austria from 31 October - 4 November 2011. ============ iPad winners ============ To encourage participation in the survey, the RIPE NCC offered five iPads to respondents. We would like to congratulate the following five people, who were randomly drawn by the OII as the winners of the iPads. - James Blessing, Limelight Networks - Bror-Erik Karlsson, Anvia Registry - David Alldritt, Highnet - Abdullah Alzaher, Arabcircle Internet Services - Sergey Sysoev, Tomsk Polytechnic University We would like to thank all those who took the time to participate in this crucial survey for the RIPE NCC. Best regards, Paul Rendek Head of Communications and External Relations RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] Last Announcement for "Run Out Fairly" Policy Implementation
by Ingrid Wijte 30 Jun '11

30 Jun '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, On Friday, 1 July 2011, the RIPE NCC will start allocating enough IPv4 address space to Local Internet Registries (LIRs) to meet their needs for a period of up to 3 months. We ask that you please note this change from the current 6-month period. This change is in accordance with RIPE Policy Proposal 2009-03, "Run Out Fairly". The full text of the policy proposal can be found at: http://ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2009-03 The following RIPE documents have been updated to reflect this policy implementation: http://ripe.net/ripe/docs/iprequestform http://ripe.net/ripe/docs/iprequestsupport http://ripe.net/ripe/docs/pi-requestform http://ripe.net/ripe/docs/pi-requestsupport Kind Regards, Ingrid Wijte Registration Services Assistant Manager RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] Reduced Service on RIPE NCC Website and RIPE Labs
by Mihnea-Costin Grigore 28 Jun '11

28 Jun '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, To allow us to update the software behind the RIPE NCC website and RIPE Labs, functionality on these sites will be reduced between 15:00 and 19:00 (UTC) today, 28 June 2011. During this time, the sites will remain available. However, they will be in "read only" mode. Search functionality will be unavailable, and it will not be possible to comment on articles or join in discussions. We apologise in advance for any inconvenience this might cause. If you have any questions about this maintenance work, please contact webmaster(a)ripe.net. Regards, -- Mihnea-Costin Grigore RIPE NCC Web Developer - http://www.ripe.net/

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Dubrovnik, 6-9 September 2011: Draft Agenda Published
by Paul Rendek 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC Regional Meeting will take place at the Valamar Lacroma Hotel in Dubrovnik, Croatia, from 6-9 September 2011. This is the first regional meeting to take place in this part of Europe. --------------- Draft Agenda --------------- A group of volunteers has worked together to make an inspiring draft agenda: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/regional-meetings/dubrovnik-2011/agenda --------------- Registration --------------- The RIPE NCC Regional Meetings are open for anyone to attend, and attendance is free of charge. However, you do need to pre-register to attend. You can register for this meeting at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/regional-meetings/dubrovnik-2011/registr… --------------- Hotel --------------- Discounted room rates (EUR 125) are available for meeting attendees at the Valamar Lacroma Hotel. Find out how to book your room at: http://ripe.net/dubrovnik-2011/venue --------------- Sponsoring --------------- Information about sponsoring opportunities can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/regional-meetings/dubrovnik-2011/sponsor… Please check back regularly for the latest information at: http://ripe.net/dubrovnik-2011 Kind regards, Paul Rendek Head of External Relations and Communications RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey: Deadline Extended
by Axel Pawlik 09 Jun '11

09 Jun '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, We are extending the deadline for you to participate in the RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011 until Tuesday, 14 June at 23:59 UTC. The survey can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/survey2011 This survey will be crucial for the RIPE NCC in determining its strategy for the years ahead. There are still four iPads to be given to respondents to the survey. The prize winners will be drawn at random by the OII, and the winners will be announced after the survey closes. The Oxford Internet Institute (OII) will analyse the results, and all identifying information will be removed before the data is given to the RIPE NCC. We would like to thank all those who have responded so far, and we strongly urge those who have yet to respond to do so before the deadline. Regards, Axel Pawlik RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC closed on Thursday 2 June and Monday 13 June 2011
by Saskia van Gorp 31 May '11

31 May '11

Dear Colleagues, Our office is closed on Thursday 2 June (Ascension Day) and Monday 13 June (Whit Monday) 2011. Normal office hours will resume respectively on Friday 3 June and Tuesday 14 June 2011. The offices close on all Dutch public holidays listed at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/contact/public-holidays Regards, Saskia van Gorp RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] First iPad Winner: RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011
by Axel Pawlik 30 May '11

30 May '11

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, You still have time to take part in the RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011. The survey can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/survey2011 ================= First iPad Winner ================= Congratulations to James Blessing, who was chosen at random by the Oxford Internet Institute (OII) as the winner of the "early bird" prize. The RIPE NCC will give four more iPads to respondents chosen at random by the OII. The prize winners will be drawn from all respondents who complete the survey by the closing date of 10 June. ========== The Survey ========== The results of this survey will be crucial for the RIPE NCC in determining its strategy for the years ahead. Analysis of the survey results will be conducted by the OII, and all identifying information will be removed before the data is given to the RIPE NCC. For the first time, the survey is open to all stakeholders in the RIPE community in addition to RIPE NCC members. We aim to receive 1,000 responses by 10 June, so we encourage you to take 10-15 minutes to complete the survey. We look forward to receiving your input. Best regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] Announcement: RIPE NCC Training Courses
by Training Mailbox 23 May '11

23 May '11

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC invites you to register for one of our upcoming training courses: - The LIR Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to request Internet number resources and interact with the RIPE NCC. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/courses/lir/outline/ - The Routing Registry Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to use the RIPE Database for routing. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/courses/rr/ - The IPv6 Training Course This course teaches LIRs about the need for IPv6 and includes basic information on how to plan your deployment. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/ipv6/outline.html To see the location of upcoming courses and to register, please use the LIR Portal or complete the registration form on our website at: RIPE NCC Upcoming Courses List & Registration https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/training/course-list.html If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at <training(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Dubrovnik, 6-9 September 2011: Registration Now Open
by Paul Rendek 12 May '11

12 May '11

Dear colleagues, We're pleased to announce that a RIPE NCC Regional Meeting will take place at the Valamar Lacroma Hotel in Dubrovnik, Croatia, from 6-9 September 2011. You can register for this meeting at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/regional-meetings/dubrovnik-2011/registr… The RIPE NCC Regional Meetings are open for anyone to attend, and attendance is free of charge. The goals of this meeting are to: * Encourage cooperation among operators in this region and facilitate an open dialogue about issues that affect them * Enable the RIPE NCC to further support Local Internet Registries (LIRs) in this region * Present the latest developments in the Internet industry and identify, discuss and solve the specific issues that affect operators working in this region The meeting agenda will consist of plenary presentations, tutorials, hands-on workshops, as well as long coffee breaks, lunches and evening social events where there will be ample time for attendees to meet each other face-to-face. The draft agenda will be posted soon. Please check back regularly for the latest information at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/regional-meetings/dubrovnik-2011 Regards, Paul Rendek Head of External Relations and Communications RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011
by Axel Pawlik 06 May '11

06 May '11

Dear Colleagues, We would like to invite you to participate in the RIPE NCC Membership and Stakeholder Survey 2011. The survey is now available and can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/survey2011 This survey will be used by the RIPE NCC to assess its current service offering and shape its strategy for the years ahead. The RIPE NCC carries out these large-scale surveys every three years. They are extremely important in finding out the views of RIPE NCC members on the direction the RIPE NCC should be taking as an organisation. For the first time, the RIPE NCC is also asking for feedback from stakeholders, other than RIPE NCC members, in its service region. These people are engaged in areas relevant to the work of the RIPE NCC and, as such, their opinion is also of value. An independent third party, the Oxford Internet Institute (OII), will conduct the analysis of the data. Any information that may identify the respondent will be removed by the OII and will not be made available to the RIPE NCC or published in the report. Anonymity is completely assured. Please participate in this important survey before the closing date of 10 June 2011. The survey should take 15-20 minutes to complete. To encourage participation and early response, the RIPE NCC will give one iPad to an "early bird" responder, chosen at random by the OII, who completes the survey by 16 May. There will be four more iPads, also chosen at random, from all valid responses received by the closing date. The closing date for the survey is 10 June 2011. We thank you in advance for your contribution. Kind regards, Desiree Miloshevic On behalf of the Oxford Internet Institute and Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Executive Board Results
by Axel Pawlik 04 May '11

04 May '11

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC General Meeting was held Wednesday, 4 May 2011, adjacent to the RIPE 62 Meeting at the Krasnapolsky Hotel in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. The meeting agenda included an election to fill two RIPE NCC Executive Board seats for three-year terms. Christian Kaufmann and Fahad AlShirawi were elected by the membership to take the available seats on the Executive Board. There were 120 attendees, excluding RIPE NCC staff and observers from the other Regional Internet Registries. In addition to the Executive Board election, the RIPE NCC members approved two resolutions. The RIPE NCC 2010 Audited Financial Report was approved. And the RIPE NCC Executive Board was discharged with regard to its actions as set out in the 2010 Annual Report. The RIPE NCC would like to thank its membership for the input and support given at the General Meeting and congratulates our newly elected Executive Board members. The Executive Board also extended warm thanks to Andreas Wittkemper for the dedication and hard work he brought to the Board in his time as a member. Best regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC General Meeting: Remote Participation
by Axel Pawlik 03 May '11

03 May '11

Dear RIPE NCC member, The RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) takes place tommorow, 4 May, from 18:00 to 20:00 (UTC+2). All members will receive an invitation by email containing a link to view the webcast of the GM. The mail will also contain a password that will allow you to participate in the GM using the chat facility. Members who registered to vote electronically for the RIPE NCC Executive Board elections will receive two further emails with invitations to vote for the two available seats on the Executive Board. Those voting electronically are especially encouraged to follow the GM proceedings via the webcast facility. Information on the GM is available at: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm Best regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC

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[ncc-announce] RIPE 62: Remote Participation
by RIPE NCC Meeting Coordinator 02 May '11

02 May '11

Dear Colleagues, RIPE 62 starts today and takes place until Friday, 6 May 2011 in the NH Krasnapolsky hotel in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. --------------------- Remote Participation --------------------- If you're unable to attend the meeting in person, you can still take part in the meeting sessions remotely. Find out how to access the RIPE 62 chat rooms, live webcasts and streamed session stenography transcripts at: http://ripe62.ripe.net/live --------------------- Still Want to Attend? --------------------- Online registration for the meeting is now closed, but it's still possible to register on site at the meeting venue. Regards, The RIPE Meeting Team

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