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Executive Board Decision on Brokers List
by Christian Kaufmann 22 Apr '20

22 Apr '20

Dear colleagues, After analysing all of your comments and weighing the pros and cons of keeping the brokers list on the website, the board has reached a decision. We’ve decided to keep the broker’s list on the website because we think that this list is a valuable resource for our members. However, we will apply stronger due diligence checks and stronger obligations to all brokers in order to prevent abuse. We are currently developing the relevant procedures and legal framework together with the RIPE NCC. We will give you another update when we have more information. Best regards, Christian Kaufmann RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman

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RIPE Validator v3 error
by Fabiano D'Agostino 17 Apr '20

17 Apr '20

Good evening, yesterday I managed to install RIPE Validator v3. Today I rebooted my VM and tried to execute the script again with ./rpki-validator-3.sh, but I get this errors: https://pastebin.com/xtHTCZnq Thanks in advance, Fabiano

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RPKI ROAs for sponsored resources got deleted?
by Dominic Schallert 02 Apr '20

02 Apr '20

Hello Community, what happened to RPKI ROAs for Sponsored Resources yesterday? All of a sudden, all ROAs for Sponsored Resources got deleted... 2020-04-01 16:16:41 system Updated ROA configuration. Additions: none. Deletions: [asn=ASxxx, prefix=x.x.x.x/22, maximumLength=22]. 2020-04-01 16:16:41 system Updated suppressed routes for ROA alerts. Additions: none. Deletions: [asn=ASxxx, prefix=x.x.x.x/22]. Not only our customers affected but also others. Thanks

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Re: [members-discuss] About transfer policies
by Terrence Koeman 04 Mar '20

04 Mar '20

It seems to me they did not notice it earlier, but now they have and are seeking clarification from the issuing authority. Seems completely logical to me. Just because they did not notice it before doesn't mean that they are now forced to continue exactly as before... "doesn't have" on an extract may concern authority to represent a business or something important like that. I don't see what policy is contradicted here? Can you suggest one? -- Regards, Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. ________________________________ From: Dmitry P <head(a)global-data-networks.com> Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2020 03:13 To: members-discuss(a)ripe.net Subject: [members-discuss] About transfer policies > Hello, > > we are in some weird situation with transfering out an IP range and RIPE > doesn't provide any answers to our questions, the transfer is suspended > for a very weird reason and we are out of options; I would like to hear > other members opinions on that subject with a hope of seeking some > answers that RIPE didn't provide after numerous attempts. > > Our company's extracts are created by Ukraine's Ministry of Justice and > have a specific line near the director field which says '(не має)' right > after mentioning the director's name, which means "(doesn't have)" from > Ukrainian. > ПОЧТАРЬОВ ДМИТРО ОЛЕГОВИЧ - керівник з 25.05.2016 (не має); > > We had this line on all our extracts since the company was opened and > RIPE has a) accepted us as a member by reviewing those extracts b) > approved numerous in and out transfers with those extracts since 2016 > c) recently approved a transfer out about 2 weeks ago using the extract > with the same line. > > 4 days ago we have requested another transfer and a RIPE rep. has asked > us to clarify about what '(не має)' means in our extract. We have no > clue what it means exactly and never interested because it was present > since a first extract, also because RIPE has never questioned it before, > and as I have mentioned, all the previous extracts came with that line. > > We don't have a clue of what it means and the RIPE's rep. decided to > suspend the transfer and make a request to Ukraine's Ministry of > Justice, which was very unexpected decision from our point of view. > She told us that "Though we process tens of requests of Ukrainian > companies every day, it's first time that we see such a record. It's not > entirely clear what it means and what you as a Director "do not have".", > to which I responded it's a false statement, because RIPE certainly HAS > SEEN this line before, at least because my company have performed many > transfers and requests with RIPE, which have been approved using same > extracts. In this case, she talked about her own experience in the name > of RIPE, which already was not very professional. > > So I obviously asked why does some her or RIPE's unawareness in > Ukraine's legislation should concern us, to what I got no answer at all. > Are we really responsible for RIPE's lack of knowledge on some subject? > Our company is active and the extracts are all valid on the min. justice > site, also the signee of the T.A. corresponds to the director name - > this all makes us compliant to the RIPE's rules and policies, which, we > believe should have made this transfer complete already. > > Notwithstanding our expectations, RIPE didn't provide any answer to our > questions and also didn't tell why this specific matter should concern > this specific transfer, since there were already approved transfers > using same extract. Now we must wait about 2 or 3 weeks until the Min. > of Justice responds them to clarify this, which made us very > disappointed, since we still do not understand why this case affects our > transfer at all. > > This is very frustrating and we have no more choices but hearing other > members opinions and suggestions, if any. Doesn't it look like RIPE is > very contradictory to its own policies in this case? > > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss(a)ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/terrence%40darkness-…

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About transfer policies
by Dmitry P 03 Mar '20

03 Mar '20

Hello, we are in some weird situation with transfering out an IP range and RIPE doesn't provide any answers to our questions, the transfer is suspended for a very weird reason and we are out of options; I would like to hear other members opinions on that subject with a hope of seeking some answers that RIPE didn't provide after numerous attempts. Our company's extracts are created by Ukraine's Ministry of Justice and have a specific line near the director field which says '(не має)' right after mentioning the director's name, which means "(doesn't have)" from Ukrainian. ПОЧТАРЬОВ ДМИТРО ОЛЕГОВИЧ - керівник з 25.05.2016 (не має); We had this line on all our extracts since the company was opened and RIPE has a) accepted us as a member by reviewing those extracts b) approved numerous in and out transfers with those extracts since 2016 c) recently approved a transfer out about 2 weeks ago using the extract with the same line. 4 days ago we have requested another transfer and a RIPE rep. has asked us to clarify about what '(не має)' means in our extract. We have no clue what it means exactly and never interested because it was present since a first extract, also because RIPE has never questioned it before, and as I have mentioned, all the previous extracts came with that line. We don't have a clue of what it means and the RIPE's rep. decided to suspend the transfer and make a request to Ukraine's Ministry of Justice, which was very unexpected decision from our point of view. She told us that "Though we process tens of requests of Ukrainian companies every day, it's first time that we see such a record. It's not entirely clear what it means and what you as a Director "do not have".", to which I responded it's a false statement, because RIPE certainly HAS SEEN this line before, at least because my company have performed many transfers and requests with RIPE, which have been approved using same extracts. In this case, she talked about her own experience in the name of RIPE, which already was not very professional. So I obviously asked why does some her or RIPE's unawareness in Ukraine's legislation should concern us, to what I got no answer at all. Are we really responsible for RIPE's lack of knowledge on some subject? Our company is active and the extracts are all valid on the min. justice site, also the signee of the T.A. corresponds to the director name - this all makes us compliant to the RIPE's rules and policies, which, we believe should have made this transfer complete already. Notwithstanding our expectations, RIPE didn't provide any answer to our questions and also didn't tell why this specific matter should concern this specific transfer, since there were already approved transfers using same extract. Now we must wait about 2 or 3 weeks until the Min. of Justice responds them to clarify this, which made us very disappointed, since we still do not understand why this case affects our transfer at all. This is very frustrating and we have no more choices but hearing other members opinions and suggestions, if any. Doesn't it look like RIPE is very contradictory to its own policies in this case?

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Skyline Telecom 01 Mar '20

01 Mar '20

Dominic, I think the reason is that at the GM RIPE misleadingly said that even if we redistribute only “50%” of the surplus, the amount will be the same as last year. Which clearly it isn’t. Unfortunately many based their votes on what the people at RIPE SAID and they didn’t do the math themselves, otherwise they would have seen that there is a significant difference in amounts. And now RIPE is covered, they will say “you voted, case closed” even though they gave very misleading information. So, that’s why the surplus is so much smaller compared to 2019, and that’s the reason RIPE NCC will also pay taxes to NL authorities, etc etc. Basically, they didn’t want to give money to it’s members, they preferred to give money to the dutch fiscal authority. From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces(a)ripe.net> On Behalf Of Dominic Schallert Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 20:38 To: members-discuss(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question I can‘t understand why the surplus redistribution in 2019 had been EUR 567,52 and in 2020 it’s only EUR 353,82 per LIR. This does not match with the actual new-LIR development figures in 2019 according to https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/number-of-lirs Regards Am 26.02.2020 um 15:26 schrieb Radu-Adrian Feurdean <ripe-ncc(a)radu-adrian.feurdean.net<mailto:ripe-ncc@radu-adrian.feurdean.net>>: On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, at 21:41, Arash Naderpour wrote: It doesn't looks fair to me, but you need to see enough support from the memebers to change it, NCC also like easy money, same as many of others. ...and as most of its members who do enjoy the redistribution (when there is one) the next year. Back to the initial question, the membership fee *IS* pro-rated when you *open* the LIR, sometimes to the advantage of the new member (not including an extra quarter for up to 2 or 3 weeks only). If you perform a merger via "M&A Process", the rules are pretty clear that both LIRs involved need to be with membership fees paid. Even if you would manage to propose a resolution to change this, I'm not sure it will pass. -- Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss(a)ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ds%40schallert.com

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Membership Fee Question
by Ali Vargonen 28 Feb '20

28 Feb '20

Hello, I would like to ask you about the membership fee costs of RIPE, today I learned something new. Maybe it was something common and I was not aware of it. As a member, you need to pay the full amount for the annual year 2020, if you just use the services for 10 days and terminate your membership with Ripe, so if you use services for 10 or 365 days you will be charged the same amount. I asked if it is possible to make it at least Q based, but this is not an option, 6 months based, not an option. You need to pay full year and it is not based on the number of days or (Q based) you are a member of RIPE in the year. Interesting information for me, I do not think its fair, but everybody could think differently. I would like to get your opinions about it. Is it fair to charge a member, who will not be a member in Q2 + Q3 + Q4 for the annual year? Kind Regards, A.V.

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All RIPE NCC Invoices Now Issued
by Simon-Jan Haytink 27 Feb '20

27 Feb '20

Dear all, Due to some administrative changes, we staggered the issuing of invoices this year while still committing to sending them all in February. All invoices have now been sent and are also accessible from the LIR Portal. Apologies for any uncertainty that might have been caused. And if you have any questions, please let us know at <billing(a)ripe.net>. Best regards, Simon Jan Haytink Finance Manager RIPE NCC

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Schnabeltier 26 Feb '20

26 Feb '20

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Together pal 26 Feb '20

26 Feb '20

Not for me [image: image.png] On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:11 PM Mike Simkins <mike.simkins(a)sungardas.com> wrote: > > > Yes, definitely there > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Together pal <info(a)together-pal.com> > *Sent:* 26 February 2020 20:00 > *To:* Mike Simkins <mike.simkins(a)sungardas.com> > *Cc:* Bora Ismen <bora.ismen(a)nimbevo.com>; Dominic Schallert < > ds(a)schallert.com>; members-discuss(a)ripe.net > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question > > > > They are not available for me, could you double check your account, I > also contacted RIPE two days ago but still waiting for them to answer. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:57 PM Mike Simkins <mike.simkins(a)sungardas.com> > wrote: > > *They are available in the member (LIR) portal* > > > > > > *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces(a)ripe.net> *On Behalf Of *Bora > Ismen > *Sent:* 26 February 2020 19:07 > *To:* 'Together pal' <info(a)together-pal.com>; 'Dominic Schallert' < > ds(a)schallert.com> > *Cc:* members-discuss(a)ripe.net > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question > > > > Not yet, there is 2 more business days in February, and we have not > received any invoices yet. > > > > *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces(a)ripe.net> *On Behalf Of *Together > pal > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 6:41 PM > *To:* Dominic Schallert <ds(a)schallert.com> > *Cc:* members-discuss(a)ripe.net > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question > > > > Did anyone got the invoice for 2020 fees?? > > > > Thanks > > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:39 PM Dominic Schallert <ds(a)schallert.com> > wrote: > > I can‘t understand why the surplus redistribution in 2019 had been EUR > 567,52 and in 2020 it’s only EUR 353,82 per LIR. This does not match with > the actual new-LIR development figures in 2019 according to > https://labs.ripe.net/statistics/number-of-lirs > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__labs.ripe.net_statisti…> > > > > Regards > > > > > > Am 26.02.2020 um 15:26 schrieb Radu-Adrian Feurdean < > ripe-ncc(a)radu-adrian.feurdean.net>: > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, at 21:41, Arash Naderpour wrote: > > It doesn't looks fair to me, but you need to see enough support from > > the memebers to change it, NCC also like easy money, same as many of > > others. > > > > ...and as most of its members who do enjoy the redistribution (when there > is one) the next year. > > > > Back to the initial question, the membership fee *IS* pro-rated when you > *open* the LIR, sometimes to the advantage of the new member (not including > an extra quarter for up to 2 or 3 weeks only). > > > > If you perform a merger via "M&A Process", the rules are pretty clear that > both LIRs involved need to be with membership fees paid. Even if you would > manage to propose a resolution to change this, I'm not sure it will pass. > > > > -- > > Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN > > > > _______________________________________________ > > members-discuss mailing list > > members-discuss(a)ripe.net > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.ripe.net_mailman…> > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ds%40schallert.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.ripe.net_mailman…> > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss(a)ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.ripe.net_mailman…> > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/info%40together-pal.… > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.ripe.net_mailman…> > >

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Schnabeltier 25 Feb '20

25 Feb '20

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Schnabeltier 24 Feb '20

24 Feb '20

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Schnabeltier 24 Feb '20

24 Feb '20

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Schnabeltier 24 Feb '20

24 Feb '20

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Terrence Koeman 24 Feb '20

24 Feb '20

You're paying for an annual membership. Not a quarterly membership or a monthly membership. If you want to terminate it early that's your prerogative, but you get what you pay for even if you don't "use" it. Note that you're paying for a RIPE membership, not RIPE services. A RIPE membership for 2020 funds RIPE as a whole for 2020, if you terminate your membership early RIPE still exists the rest of the year, as do the other members. It looks completely fair to me. Additionally, I recommend that you actually read what you sign in the future. -- Regards, Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. ________________________________ From: Arash Naderpour <arash.naderpour(a)gmail.com> Sent: Monday, 24 February 2020 21:43 To: Ali Vargonen Cc: members-discuss(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question > It doesn't looks fair to me, but you need to see enough support from the > memebers to change it, NCC also like easy money, same as many of others. > > Regards, > > Arash > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020, 02:18 Ali Vargonen, <ali(a)vargonen.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I would like to ask you about the membership fee costs of RIPE, today I > > learned something new. > > Maybe it was something common and I was not aware of it. > > > > As a member, you need to pay the full amount for the annual year 2020, if > > you just use the services for 10 days and terminate your membership with > > Ripe, so if you use services for 10 or 365 days you will be charged the > > same amount. > > > > I asked if it is possible to make it at least Q based, but this is not an > > option, 6 months based, not an option. > > > > You need to pay full year and it is not based on the number of days or (Q > > based) you are a member of RIPE in the year. > > > > Interesting information for me, I do not think its fair, but everybody > > could think differently. I would like to get your opinions about it. > > > > Is it fair to charge a member, who will not be a member in Q2 + Q3 + Q4 > > for the annual year? > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > A.V. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > members-discuss mailing list > > members-discuss(a)ripe.net > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/arash.naderpour%40gm… > >

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Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question
by Ali Vargonen 24 Feb '20

24 Feb '20

Hello, - the issue is not about selling ips on our side. - merge two different entities together after 10+ years. In legal wise, if you terminate a contract earlier than the agreed period of time, there is normally a penalty fee. Not pushing hard to make annual payment. The issue is not about money wise on my side. Just trying to learn what you think, and I respect each and every answer of you. Thanks. On 24 Feb 2020, at 18:49, Mark Scholten <info(a)mscholten.eu> wrote: Hello, Maybe they should make an exception if you return at least a /22 IPv4 (or whatever direct allocation you did get from RIPE NCC). That way it would help to reduce the waiting list a bit. If you are going to sell the /22 I don't see a reason to make it cheaper. Also I believe RIPE NCC warns early enough for this (by the end of the previous year). Regards, Mark From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Cynthia Revström Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 16:41 To: Ali Vargonen Cc: members-discuss(a)ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Membership Fee Question Hello, I think it is fair because pretty much the only members it affects are entities with multiple memberships which should not be able to get LIRs even cheaper. - Cynthia On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 4:15 PM Ali Vargonen <ali(a)vargonen.com<mailto:ali@vargonen.com>> wrote: Hello, I would like to ask you about the membership fee costs of RIPE, today I learned something new. Maybe it was something common and I was not aware of it. As a member, you need to pay the full amount for the annual year 2020, if you just use the services for 10 days and terminate your membership with Ripe, so if you use services for 10 or 365 days you will be charged the same amount. I asked if it is possible to make it at least Q based, but this is not an option, 6 months based, not an option. You need to pay full year and it is not based on the number of days or (Q based) you are a member of RIPE in the year. Interesting information for me, I do not think its fair, but everybody could think differently. I would like to get your opinions about it. Is it fair to charge a member, who will not be a member in Q2 + Q3 + Q4 for the annual year? Kind Regards, A.V. _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss(a)ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/me%40cynthia.re

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Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
by Christian Kaufmann 17 Jan '20

17 Jan '20

Dear RIPE NCC members, The Executive Board has been following this discussion and we can see general agreement for a change in the way brokers are listed on the RIPE NCC's website. The question is whether the RIPE NCC should remove the list entirely, or otherwise take steps to improve its approach. There are pros and cons with both options. Removing the list is straightforward and would spare the RIPE NCC a few headaches. However, it is worth considering whether the current model provides some incentive for brokers to play by the rules and what might happen if this incentive is gone. Conversely, it's clear that some brokers are still spamming RIPE Database contacts. Is this the only problem we are seeking to eliminate here, or are there others? Could an updated set of terms or a stricter approach by the RIPE NCC help to mitigate this? Before the board makes its decision, we would like to hear your thoughts on this list. Kind regards, Christian Kaufmann RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman

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RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers
by Sergey Myasoedov 09 Jan '20

09 Jan '20

Dear RIPE NCC, members, I would like to raise an issue of misuse of the RIPE Database by the brokers. I've reported different issues to RIPE NCC, but every time I receive a reassurance that appropriate measures will be taken. I am pretty sure that broker agreements and LIR contracts should be reviewed for every case of misuse of the RIPE NCC. But this specific broker - Supplity - is still sending spam using the RIPE DB contacts and nothing has happened to them. So I would like to collect more data, whether someone else has reported their spam to NCC. And finally to ask a question why nothing is happened to their broker status. Thank you. -- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov

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Purchase info
by info＠hecanet.net 25 Dec '19

25 Dec '19

Hello, dear customer We have received your deposit for retailer, document number 7590-833R. You could find your legal receipt and all order № #998026 further details in the file. We are grateful for your business.

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Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
by Schnabeltier 19 Dec '19

19 Dec '19

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LIR contact email for the RIPE Meeting free tickets
by Alessandro Bondesan 18 Dec '19

18 Dec '19

Hello all, doe's someone know where RIPE NCC sends the RIPE Meeting Free Partecipation Tickets? To all LIR users email or to the public email reported on the "Account Details" in the LIR Portal? Thank you Alessandro Bondesan

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Re: [members-discuss] [LIR] Re: Fwd: Re: RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers
by Gruber Wolfgang 15 Dec '19

15 Dec '19

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New LIR with existent organization object
by Alexander Shikov 10 Dec '19

10 Dec '19

Hello! Dear Community, recently one of our companies became a LIR. Before that we already had organization, role, nic-hdl objects. For instance, our organization object is present in RIPE DB from 2010. Existent organisation object is not tied to any LIR account, but it is tied to a bunch of other objects like inet-nums, aut-nums etc. RIPE NCC refuses the usage of existent organization object. They just suggest to "update your other object with new one". It is really annoying. Ok, we have not many objects, but what shall we do if we'd have had a hundreds of them? Why we cannot use existent organization object for a new LIR?! Is there any policy which obliges RIPE NCC to create new one? Thanks! -- Alexander Shikov IT Consulting L.L.C. Tel.: +380 44 201 1407 | Fax: +380 44 201 1409 | Mob.: +380 50 410 3057

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RIPE NCC Ticketsystem suggestion
by Dominic Schallert 06 Dec '19

06 Dec '19

Hello List, after the migration from RTT to Zendesk some while ago, it seems it is still not yet possible for members/LIRs to view previous tickets and a particular ticket's message history. Why? - AFAIK Zendesk provides widgets which could be integrated into my.ripe.net <http://my.ripe.net/> aka. the LIR portal. - Another possibility might be SSO-based auth and customer frontend access to ripencc.zendesk.com <http://ripencc.zendesk.com/>. Just my five cents. Mit besten Grüßen Kind Regards Dominic Schallert, BA schallert.com e.U. | Hauptstr. 35b, 6800 Feldkirch, Austria UID: ATU66209211 | FN: 440372g | Gerichtsstand: LG Feldkirch Tel.: +43 5522 26500 | Fax: +43 5522 26500-100 www.schallert.com <http://www.schallert.com/> | office(a)schallert.com <mailto:office@schallert.com>

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BLACK FRIDAY IPv4 transfer
by José Manuel Giner 03 Dec '19

03 Dec '19

Hello, we're interested to buy (full-transfer) a /22, If anybody is interested to sell us with a special price, please contact me with the proposal details. Thanks. -- José Manuel Giner https://ginernet.com

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