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Analysis of Voting Registrations at the GM
by Fergal Cunningham 08 Jul '24

08 Jul '24

Dear all, We just published a RIPE Labs article that takes a closer look at the voter registration data from the recent May General Meeting: https://labs.ripe.net/author/ilke-ilhan/voting-analysis-gm-may-2024-a-first… If you have thoughts on the article, or suggestions on other aspects you'd like to see covered in future analyses, we'd love to hear them. Best regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q3 2024
by Adonis Stergiopoulos 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

Dear colleagues, We have now published the Q3 2024 quarterly plans for our development teams: https://www.ripe.net/support/documentation/quarterly-planning These plans include the work items that will be carried out over the next quarter and give you the chance to provide your feedback and suggestions that the RIPE NCC should be working on going forward. The plans cover the following areas: - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications. - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Information Security, Risk, and Compliance - Training and Certification Please share your suggestions on this list or the RIPE NCC Forum: https://forum.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Adonis Stergiopoulos Senior Marketing & Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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RIPE ticketing tracker?
by Hank Nussbacher 11 Jun '24

11 Jun '24

Is there some RIPE NCC page where one can see the total number of open tickets as well as how long they have been in the queue? Is there some SLA in regards to initial response to a newly opened ticket? Thanks, Hank

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Questions to RIPE NCC in light of last GM
by Hans Petter Holen 30 May '24

30 May '24

Dear all, I would like to thank the members for their input over the previous weeks, and especially during the General Meeting last week. We have received a lot of input from the members and community that we have taken on board, and now begins the work of addressing that feedback. We see the requests for more details on a wide range of topics including on IT infrastructure costs and set-up. Our CTO has written a RIPE Labs article that gives more detail and he also presented at the RIPE Meeting on this topic. Links to both are below: https://labs.ripe.net/author/felipe_victolla_silveira/reducing-the-ripe-ncc… https://ripe88.ripe.net/archives/video/1336/ More information on depreciation and bad debts (and much more besides) is available in the Financial Report 2023 (see pages 17, 18, 32 and 33): https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-821/ We also answered many questions that arose during the recent discussions in the Q&A we provided as part of the charging scheme discussion: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/cha… We will work to make this Q&A more comprehensive, adding topics outside the charging scheme discussion and adapting it as we see interest in other areas. We are always looking for ways to improve our reporting and we can see how we can publish more information on an ongoing basis through our regular reporting. We are a very transparent organisation, and some of the questions asked on this list are already answered in our documentation or presentations. We will look at ways to make the considerable amount of information we provide easier to find. The goal here should not be transparency for transparency’s sake - we aim to strike the right balance so we can increase trust and understanding of our governance and operations. Providing details on every line item or euro spent costs us a lot of time and effort, and this translates into costs for the members. The people who would work on providing those details also run the organisation or are essential to maintaining services. So we need to prioritise accordingly and work to ensure our regular reporting contains the information you need while carrying out our work to maintain our services. This is perhaps where you can help us. Are there organisations of similar size or type to us who are providing more details than we are? And are they providing it in a more coherent way that makes it easy for you to understand? Let us know. We are always happy to get suggestions or inspiration on how we might do our reporting in a better way. The Executive Board also committed at the General Meeting to discussing ways of involving members in charging scheme proposals, and this will be added to the agenda for the upcoming Board meeting in June. I am now starting the Activity Plan and Budget cycle with my management team, and we will make it a point to include more details there that address the points raised by members. This document will be published at the beginning of October to give members four weeks to comment before the General Meeting on 28 October. We see this process as a good opportunity to provide more details that will help give you an insight into the workings at the RIPE NCC. Best regards, Hans Petter Holen Managing Director RIPE NCC

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Questions to RIPE NCC in light of last GM
by ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED 28 May '24

28 May '24

Hello. After viewing video from last GM Im have some questions, hope you can help me with it. 1) Was been noticed about RIPE currently hold 46 racks, are possible to know information about that racks? What are servers used? How much power its consume and etc... 2) Are RIPE NCC currently use some sort of "cloud services" - for example Amazon S3 (or similar) and related. If YES - where is possible to found report about how much its used and how much its cost? 3) Are RIPE NCC was been used or evaluate of possibility to start using IBM Z mainframe for mission critical services - like a RIPE Database and etc... what are must have max uptime and max security? If RIPE NCC (not matter CTO all whole RIPE NCC) are evaluate it early - then can are you share your conclusion about it, if not evaluate it early - may I ask about RIPE NCC to make internal evaluation of this and after show conclustion? 4) @hpholen said about RIPE NCC have some "private" NDA contract, but I didnt see any documentation about some sort of "tenders". Are maybe for more transparency RIPE NCC need to do some sort of Request For Tender (RFT) - need some clarification about that. 5) @hpholen said about details related with datacenter contacts under "NDA" - okay, but can RIPE NCC at least reveal information what are datacenters used for A+B locations? Its not related with financial information. 6) RIPE NCC Activity Plan and Budget 2024 have part "IT Support", are its possible to receive max possible detalizations about that spendings? 3.750.000 EUR for sure not smallest part of spendings. 7) RIPE NCC Activity Plan and Budget 2024 have part "Bad Debts and Deprecation", are its possible to receive max possible detalizations about that spendings? As I understand its not a secret/NDA information. Right? Thank you.

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Three appeals by DFK on RIPE community mailing list...
by Jan Zorz - Go6 28 May '24

28 May '24

Hey, I just spotted the Daniel's submission to the RIPE community discuss last week, and in the light of the recent discussions - I thought it would be appropriate to forward it here. https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2024-May/003204.html Cheers, Jan

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Re: [members-discuss] Questions to RIPE NCC in light of last GM
by Jan-Henning Plassmann 26 May '24

26 May '24

+1 Gesendet von Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces(a)ripe.net> on behalf of Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2024 7:46:27 PM To: ROSKOMNADZOR LIMITED <admin(a)roskomnadzor.io> Cc: members-discuss(a)ripe.net <members-discuss(a)ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Questions to RIPE NCC in light of last GM > No, Im already seen this article. Its same what are was been showed on > GM. Its doesnt have detalization. i, for one, do not want detail. if i wanted to micro-manage the ncc, i would fill out a job application. they have done an amazing job for decades, and i trust them to keep doing so. the extent of the ncc's transparency is often more than i have time read. randy _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss(a)ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/jan.plassmann%40jhp-…

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Sustainability and diversity
by Vaclav Nesvadba 21 May '24

21 May '24

Dear community, I understand that - RIPE needs more money to keep the quality of services - thousands of LIRs create much more work for RIPE team But killing most of the smaller LIRs by very non-linear pricing will LOWER the business competition and finally create very HIGH prices for all Internet end-users and LOW income for RIPE. RIPE team, please try to think about it. I hope, you can find the best way for the sustainability and diversity of the environment ;) -- S přáním hezkého dne / Best regards Václav Nesvadba CTO nesvadba(a)faster.cz | +420 533 433 343 | Jarní 44g, 614 00 Brno | FASTER.CZ

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Recording Available: Meet the Executive Board Candidates
by Fergal Cunningham 17 May '24

17 May '24

Dear all, On Wednesday this week we held the Open House: Meet the RIPE NCC Executive Board Candidates. The recording is now available: https://www.ripe.net/membership/meetings/open-house/meet-the-may-2024-execu… If you want to ask candidates more questions or have them elaborate on their responses at the Open House, please ask them on the EB Candidates mailing list where they are waiting to hear from you. https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/eb-candidates All the best, Fergal

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Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members
by Daniel Pearson 17 May '24

17 May '24

Please allow me to summarize this long email. "We hear you members, but we disagree, so we are still going to do what we want to do". Since they will not listen to the proposal voted upon, I move that we as a membership recall all standing board members and hold new elections for all seats. It is clear that the board is NOT listening to it's members. We can certainty do that with a proposal can we not Ondřej? Daniel~ On 5/7/24 8:54 AM, Ondřej Filip wrote: > Dear members, > > On 6 May, 2024, the Executive Board held a meeting to discuss the > input we received from members regarding the Board proposal for the > RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025. We will publish the minutes as soon as > possible, but I want to first give you a summary of the discussions > and the outcomes from the meeting. > > Since we started engaging with the membership on the charging scheme > this year, we have received over 400 emails on the topic. For the > first time, we also have a member proposal for a GM agenda topic that > has received the required number of expressions of support to be added > to the GM agenda. Therefore, we felt it was important for the Board to > have this extra meeting, review the various points that were brought > forward, and consider the next steps in this process. There were many > important points to discuss at this meeting, and although the outcome > might not please everyone, the Board was fully aligned on how it > should move forward. > > First, we considered again what we had decided upon at the Board > meeting in March. The Board consciously did not put forward a proposal > to keep the charging scheme as it is because we don’t believe that it > would be good governance to make a proposal that leaves us with a > large deficit, and good governance is what is expected from us by the > members who elect us. > > Furthermore, some of the suggestions from members would change the > funding model in a way that would put the organisation at risk, and > while the Board represents the members, it also has legal and > fiduciary responsibilities towards the organisation. It is clear that > one of the main responsibilities of the Board is to propose a charging > scheme that will properly fund the association, and the charging > scheme options we put forward will do that for 2025 and 2026. So we > will put forward the three options as proposed on 24 April 2024 for > members to vote on at the GM[1]. > > There were many proposals to provide that funding in alternative ways. > However, we believe that this is not the right time to make > fundamental changes to the charging model. We are about to embark on a > full review of the organisation and its structures, and that will take > some time. For us to implement that review and any resulting actions, > we need stable funding. All three of the proposed options offer us > this. We also note that the redistribution mechanism allows us to > return any surplus made to the membership in the following year should > members vote to do so. The Board and the Managing Director will also > continue to work to improve efficiency and identify areas for cost > savings. > > We did consider moving this vote to later in the year, but this would > negatively impact our planning for 2025, and it would also distract > from the very important discussions we need to have with members > during the Activity Plan and Budget process this Autumn. During that > discussion, we do expect that the members who are convinced that the > RIPE NCC needs to reduce its budget will tell us which services need > to be reduced or cut in order to accommodate such a reduction. > > At our meeting, the Board also discussed the structural review that > will take place. This will begin at the RIPE 88 Meeting in two weeks > with a BoF on how to build a stable future for the RIPE NCC. We expect > that there will be a productive discussion on many issues that need to > be resolved so that the RIPE NCC can move forward stably and with a > funding model that has the support of its membership. We will keep the > membership updated on the outcomes of those discussions and how the > members can contribute to the work that will surely emerge from them. > > Regarding the membership proposal[2], we acknowledge that the > threshold was met to add the GM agenda topic “Keep current billing > scheme for the next year”. We will add this as a topic to the agenda > as required by the Articles of Association. However, this will not be > added as a proposed resolution for members to vote on. Articles 15.4, > 15.5 and 15.6 of the RIPE NCC Articles of Association do not allow > members to propose a Charging Scheme, as reaffirmed by the external > law firm that gives us expert advice on Dutch corporate law. > > This legal framework ensures that a Charging Scheme may only be > proposed by those who were elected to serve on the Executive Board, > who have better insight into the financials and the operations of the > organisation, and who have a duty of care for the well-being of the > organisation and are liable in case of mismanagement. Parties without > such insight, responsibility and liability may not put forward > charging schemes for voting that - although appealing for individual > members - may be inappropriate for the sustainability of the > organisation. > > To summarise, the Board recognises the member sentiment and we are > committed to addressing it for the long term. However, we must do what > we believe is best for the stability of the organisation and its > membership, even if it is not an easy or popular thing to do. This is > what is required of us when we legally commit to be Board members, and > we will faithfully execute on our commitments in this regard. > > We listen to your feedback and ideas, and on behalf of the Board I > thank you for engaging in these important discussions and look forward > to seeing them continue as we work towards a sustainable outcome for > the RIPE NCC. > > The RIPE NCC Executive Board > > Ondřej Filip, Chair > Raymond Jetten, Treasurer > Piotr Strzyżewski, Secretary > Maria Häll, Member > Remco van Mook, Member > Job Snijders, Member > Harald A. Summa, Member > > [1] > https://www.ripe.net/membership/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2024/documentation… > > [2] https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/member-proposals/ >

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