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idea Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst
by ZeXoTeK IT-Services | Jens Winter 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

Hello, yes the idea from Christian Wittenhorst is great. I think this is the best charging scheme for fairness over all members. By jens

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[ncc-announce] New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models: Feedback Required
by Nigel Titley 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC Executive Board will present a new Charging Scheme to the membership at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) to be held in Vienna on 2 November 2011. The Executive Board is working with the RIPE NCC Senior Management on various options that could be included in the Charging Scheme. It would like to solicit feedback from members on two Charging Scheme models before deciding on a final version to present at the GM. The two models are based on established RIPE NCC organisational principles. Both models, as well as an explanation of the models' features and differences, are presented at: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/november-2011/ripe-ncc-proposed-ne… The RIPE NCC Executive Board welcomes any feedback on the proposed models. You can provide your feedback by using the online form or by sending an email directly to agm(a)ripe.net. After considering the feedback from the membership on the proposed Charging Scheme models, the Executive Board will decide which model it will present to the membership at the GM. If you wish to discuss the proposed new Charging Scheme models with other RIPE NCC members, please start a discussion on the members-discuss(a)ripe.net mailing list. Information about this list can be found online at: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/member-support/info/membership-mailing-li… We look forward to hearing your comments. Regards, Nigel Titley RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman

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Re: [members-discuss] idea Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst
by Xavier BEAUDOUIN 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

+1 Association kazar "Marcel Edler (Optimate-Server.de)" <medler(a)optimate-server.de> a écrit : >Hello Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst, > >this idea sounds great and should be fair for all members: > /22 EUR 502 > /21 EUR 904 > /20 EUR 1308 > /19 EUR 1716 > /18 EUR 2132 > /17 EUR 2565 > /16 EUR 3031 > /15 EUR 3562 > /14 EUR 4224 > /13 EUR 5148 > /12 EUR 6597 > /11 EUR 9094 > /10 EUR 13688 > /9 EUR 22477 > /8 EUR 39654 > >In new charging scheme I have to pay 5000 Eur for 73.440IPs >(1x/16,1x/19) like an ISP with 1.024.000 IPs (/12)! >I pay 0,068 Euro for each IP. >The ISP with 1.024.000IPs pays only 0,00488 Euro for each IP. >I have to pay !!14!! times more than the other ISP! > >I prefer Christian's idea. > >Regards, >Marcel Edler >Geschäftsinhaber > >---- >If you don't want to receive mails from the RIPE NCC Members Discuss list, please log in to your LIR Portal account at: http://lirportal.ripe.net/ >First click on General and then click on Edit. >At the bottom of the page you can add or remove addresses.

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New Charging Scheme
by ZeXoTeK IT-Services | Jens Winter 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

Hello, as Marcel wrote before, i also think the step between category M and L is to big. The Charging Scheme 2011 said: LARGE € 4,100 I think € 3,500 for catecory L should be ok, because it is between category M and L in the Charging Scheme of 2011. At this moment we have to calculate the Charging Scheme from IPv4 allocations, and IPv4 is running out. This mean, in future all LIR´s cannot get any IPv4 in big blocks so that they can use the free space in his category for growing. By Jens Winter X-NCC-RegID: de.zexotek

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New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models
by Andrey Semenchuk 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

Hello, > All contracts for any RIPE NCC products or services will be between the RIPE NCC and a member Last few years it were additional contracts between LIRs and End Users. This thesis is not clear: will be the contracts between LIRs and End Users or they will be cancelled? > The RIPE NCC Executive Board will present a new Charging Scheme to the membership at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) to be held in Vienna on 2 November 2011. > > In Model 1, there is no charge for PI assignments > In Model 2, each additional PI assignment incurs a charge of EUR 100 per assignment. This charge is an increase from the current PI charge but better reflects the amount of work the RIPE NCC must do to administer and assign PI space. There's no explanation in the new charging scheme how PI assignments will be calculated, If calculations will be the same as fot charging scheme 2011, charging scheme will be applied to the number of assignments at 30th september 2011. So, since 30th september till 2th november 2011 LIRs will not have any idea about final charging scheme but should sign agreements with End Users. As for me, provided changes shoud be discussed for charging scheme 2013 or discussion of the new charging scheme should be made before 30th september 2011 -- Best wishes, Andrey Semenchuk Trifle Internet Service Provider (056) 731-99-11 www.trifle.net

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[ncc-announce] Reminder: Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011
by Paul Rendek 25 Jul '11

25 Jul '11

[Apologies for duplicate mails] Dear Colleagues, There's just one week left to complete the Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011. Take part online now at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2011 This survey has been designed by GNKS Consult in collaboration with TNO and the RIPE NCC to further understand where the community stands on IPv6 and what needs be done to ensure that the Internet community is ready for the widespread adoption of IPv6. Anyone can participate in this survey and we hope that the results will establish a comprehensive view of current IPv6 penetration and future plans for IPv6 deployment. The survey comprises 23 questions and can be completed in about 15 minutes. For those without IPv6 allocations or assignments or who have not yet deployed IPv6, there will be fewer questions. The survey will close on 31 July 2011. We thank you for your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please email <info(a)gnksconsult.com>. For more information about the survey and links to previous year's survey results, please see: https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/news/industry-developments/globa… Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication

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Need information
by AXINET -- Laurent 13 Jul '11

13 Jul '11

Dear sir, Dear madam, I need some precisions please. Can you explain me the difference between "Direct Assignment Users" and "LIRs" ? The LIRs can make IP assignments for their own customers (for example) and Direct Assignment Users can't. Is it correct ? Best regards, Laurent Clin AXINET France

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[ncc-announce] LIR Portal: Manage Your Communication Preferences
by Paul Rendek 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Dear Colleagues, In response to feedback from RIPE NCC members, you can now decide for yourself whether you would like to receive a printed copy of the RIPE NCC Annual Report. All members will be *opted out* of receiving a printed copy of the Annual Report by default. Members can indicate that they would like to receive a printed copy by selecting the "Communication Preferences" option in LIR Portal menu and choosing "Yes please, I'd like to receive a printed copy of the Annual Report". Your preferences can be changed at any time. The Annual Report is available to anyone online and members will be notified of each new edition via the ncc-announce(a)ripe.net mailing list. The RIPE NCC Annual Report can be found online at: http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/press-centre/publications/annual-… The LIR Portal is available online at: https://lirportal.ripe.net/home/ We plan to add other publications to the opt-in/opt-out list in the future based on your feedback. If you have any comments, questions or feedback about this, please contact us at comms(a)ripe.net. Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication

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[ncc-announce] Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011 Now Open
by Paul Rendek 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

Dear Colleagues, The Global IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey 2011 is now online at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2011 This survey has been designed by GNKS Consult in collaboration with TNO and the RIPE NCC to further understand where the community stands on IPv6 and what needs be done to ensure that the Internet community is ready for the widespread adoption of IPv6. Anyone can participate in this survey and we hope that the results will establish a comprehensive view of current IPv6 penetration and future plans for IPv6 deployment. The survey comprises 23 questions and can be completed in about 15 minutes. For those without IPv6 allocations or assignments or who have not yet deployed IPv6, there will be fewer questions. The survey will close on 31 July 2011. We thank you for your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please email <info(a)gnksconsult.com>. For more information about the survey and links to previous year's survey results, please see: https://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/news/industry-developments/globa… Regards, Paul Rendek RIPE NCC Head of External Relations and Communication

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[ncc-announce] RIPE NCC closed on Friday 8 July 2011
by Saskia van Gorp 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

Dear Colleagues, Our office will be closed on Friday 8 July 2011 due to the annual RIPE NCC Summer Outing. Normal office hours will resume on Monday 11 July 2011. Regards, Saskia van Gorp RIPE NCC Facilities, Administration & Reception Manager

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