On Mon, 13 May 2002 17:52:13 +0200 "Xavier Henner" <henner@nerim.net> wrote:
ipv4 view: why not to give all your dialup customers in ipv4 per default a /28 delegation, and the customer decides to do NAT, all in one subnet, or more subnets ?
No : we have not enough space on v4 The RIPE-NCC will not agree
ACK.
Nerim is a small ISP but we give a static IPv4 adress to custommers if they want. If a custommer need a /29 or /28, and can justify it, we send the request to RIPE-NCC All of this costs time.
ACK. but if he can argue his needs, he will geht one.
no, i would give everyone /64 per default, unless the customer says, "no, i want to do subneting", then i will give him a /48 without discussion.
complicated and unjustified
compilcated ? no! the same as in ipv4
(adress space in v6 is *not* rare)
along time ago, there where some people who said the same sitting on the ipv4 world.
There is millions of /24 IPv4 There is more than a million of billions of /48 IPv6
not the same thing
it's the same, only the comma is on a different point.
No But paying somebody to change the adress space of the customer cost
the initional request of ip addresses doesn't cost anything in my company. we only bill when a customers want's an addional network.
IPv6 adress space costs *nothing*
IPv4 space costs *nothing*. did you pay diffrent prices @ ripe for diffrent ISP allocations ? /16 very cheap, only 500.000 Euro per year ? if you buy 2 * /16's you get one /20 for free! stuipt statement. because if an ISP runs out of addresses he will request a new allocation. if the request is correct and can be proved by the ISP he gets a new allocation based on the requested size. and i think this isp doesn't pay a higher ripe fee. -- Blechinger Robert Cybernet AG - Networking email: rblechinger@cybernet-ag.net Phone: +49 89 99315 - 116 Fax: +49 89 99315 - 199