- cooperation-wg - mailman.ripe.net

New on RIPE Labs: Uncertainty is Key
by Mirjam Kuehne 06 Mar '17

06 Mar '17

Dear colleagues, In order to manufacture Internet connectivity, network operators around the globe make a joint effort. As of today, they have interconnected more than 55,000 Autonomous Systems. By the measure of existence, the Internet gives evidence of a remarkable degree of decentral coordination between networkers. Please find more on RIPE Labs in a new article by Uta Meier-Hahn: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/uta_meier_hahn/uncertainty-is-key Kind regards, Mirjam Kuhne RIPE NCC

1 0

Europol Communication on Carrier-Grade NAT
by Chris Buckridge 23 Feb '17

23 Feb '17

Dear colleagues, Europol (the European Union’s law enforcement agency) last month sent a communication to the Council of the European Union (the group of government ministers from each EU country) regarding Carrier-Grade NAT (CGN), an issue of direct relevance to many RIPE NCC members and the RIPE community. The communication is available online at: http://www.statewatch.org/news/2017/jan/eu-europol-cgn-tech-going-dark-data… Specifically, it notes that: > With CGN, law enforcement has lost its ability to associate and link a particular cyber criminal’s activity back to a particular IP address. The paper suggests greater regulatory coordination at the EU level regarding CGN, and also notes that: > On 31st January 2017 a European Network of law enforcement specialists in CGN will be established, the secretariat of which will be established [/provided by?] at Europol. The aim of this network is to: > > - document cases of non-attribution linked to CGN in EU, > - document existing best practices to overcome CGN-related attribution problems currently in place in some Member States, > - raise awareness of European policy-makers about the problem of attribution linked to CGN technologies, > - represent the voice of law enforcement developing a common narrative and advocating for a voluntary scheme at EU level to improve traceability by engaging in a coordinated fashion with ISPs and content providers. A press release was also issued by Europol regarding the formation of this new group: https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/closing-online-crime-attributio… LEA interest in reducing the use of CGN also came up for discussion at the recent RIPE NCC Roundtable Meeting for Governments and Regulators (held in Brussels on 24 January), where the strong uptake of IPv6 in Belgium was attributed (at least partially) to coordination between law enforcement, national regulators and operators to limit the number of customers that can concurrently share a single IPv4 address. As noted in a previous email, the RIPE NCC and Europol signed an MoU in December 2016 with a focus on sharing expertise in the areas of cybercrime and Internet security. We will be liaising with Europol on this topic, and would appreciate any feedback from the RIPE community on this or related issues. Best regards, Chris Buckridge External Relations Manager RIPE NCC

7 7

SG20 and DONA etc
by Patrik Fältström 06 Feb '17

06 Feb '17

All, I hear rumors SG20 is moving forward with ideas on prescribing DONA etc as The Directory and Naming System to use, and that it is a replacement for DNS. And that there is an upcoming SG20 meeting. I personally find it being very important ITU-T in this case do not "select" specific naming mechanisms at all. There are numerous different systems that after being bootstrapped with the help of DNS and routing can act on its own. And it would be a disaster if ITU-T prescribe something at this time, unless the usage is very very specific and that harmonization really really is needed. If we should spend time on new naming and lookup mechanisms, I would go for some completely new architectures that do not have any kind of root (neither technical, nor administrative) and instead use things like opportunistic encryption and randomization to find identifiers which globally get to know each other via some ad hoc routing mechanism. paf

3 5

CPDP 2017 - Computers, Privacy and Data Protection
by Gordon Lennox 01 Feb '17

01 Feb '17

Last week we had the annual three-day CPDP event in Brussels. CPDP is a fairly big stakeholder conference. The theme this year was 'The age of intelligent machines”. Not so long ago IEEE organised a one-day seminar on "AI and ethics” also in Brussels. So you can sense some common concerns. However you can find details of CPDP here: http://www.cpdpconferences.org Perhaps as CPDP is held in Brussels - even if not in a typical institutional setting - the organisers succeed in attracting a very varied crowd. There were of course folk from the various EU bodies - the parliament, the commission, EDPS and so on. But also regulators from various EU member states and elsewhere, including the US. And the Council of Europe. And of course many academics and folk from industry. And there were well-known names such as Simon Davies, Bertrand de la Chapelle, Gus Hosein, Paul Nemitz, Bart Preneel, Marc Rotenberg, Marietje Schaake, Phil Zimmerman and many, many more, For a sense of industry involvement see: http://www.cpdpconferences.org/sponsors.html But the event is by no means dominated by industry, far from it. Between the implementation of the GDPR and Brexit and the new US administration and concerns about AI, encryption policy, cyber-warfare, mass surveillance, the so-called Internet of Things - internets of things? - and cloudy computing the programme was very rich. You can find the various sessions on YouTube: search with “CPDP 2017”. One that may be of immediate interest was the one organised by ICANN on: The GDPR impact on the domain name community. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5We1t1bClro This was not the first time I had participated. But I did sense this year was even better, if only because there was a bit more participation by technology-aware folk. I would hope to see that continue. It would be good to see some RIPE people there next year. It would be even better if NCC could also get involved in some way. Organising a panel? Or sponsoring some nice coffee! Gordon

3 3

ODP: cooperation-wg Digest, Vol 61, Issue 1
by Joanna Kulesza 01 Feb '17

01 Feb '17

Thank you for the recap Gordon. Let me just briefly +1 your idea - CPDP might prove the perfect venue for the unfolding accountability discussion within the RIPE community. Best to all Joanna Kulesza _________________ This message was sent from a mobile device. Please excuse the brevity and errors. -----Wiadomość oryginalna----- Od: "cooperation-wg-request(a)ripe.net" <cooperation-wg-request(a)ripe.net> Wysłano: ‎2017-‎02-‎01 12:00 Do: "cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net" <cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net> Temat: cooperation-wg Digest, Vol 61, Issue 1 Send cooperation-wg mailing list submissions to cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/cooperation-wg or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cooperation-wg-request(a)ripe.net You can reach the person managing the list at cooperation-wg-owner(a)ripe.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cooperation-wg digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CPDP 2017 - Computers, Privacy and Data Protection (Gordon Lennox) 2. Re: CPDP 2017 - Computers, Privacy and Data Protection (Johan Helsingius) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 22:56:40 +0100 From: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13(a)gmail.com> To: Cooperation WG <cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net> Subject: [cooperation-wg] CPDP 2017 - Computers, Privacy and Data Protection Message-ID: <8394274F-6907-498B-B813-5AEEA87E20BA(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Last week we had the annual three-day CPDP event in Brussels. CPDP is a fairly big stakeholder conference. The theme this year was 'The age of intelligent machines?. Not so long ago IEEE organised a one-day seminar on "AI and ethics? also in Brussels. So you can sense some common concerns. However you can find details of CPDP here: http://www.cpdpconferences.org Perhaps as CPDP is held in Brussels - even if not in a typical institutional setting - the organisers succeed in attracting a very varied crowd. There were of course folk from the various EU bodies - the parliament, the commission, EDPS and so on. But also regulators from various EU member states and elsewhere, including the US. And the Council of Europe. And of course many academics and folk from industry. And there were well-known names such as Simon Davies, Bertrand de la Chapelle, Gus Hosein, Paul Nemitz, Bart Preneel, Marc Rotenberg, Marietje Schaake, Phil Zimmerman and many, many more, For a sense of industry involvement see: http://www.cpdpconferences.org/sponsors.html But the event is by no means dominated by industry, far from it. Between the implementation of the GDPR and Brexit and the new US administration and concerns about AI, encryption policy, cyber-warfare, mass surveillance, the so-called Internet of Things - internets of things? - and cloudy computing the programme was very rich. You can find the various sessions on YouTube: search with ?CPDP 2017?. One that may be of immediate interest was the one organised by ICANN on: The GDPR impact on the domain name community. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5We1t1bClro This was not the first time I had participated. But I did sense this year was even better, if only because there was a bit more participation by technology-aware folk. I would hope to see that continue. It would be good to see some RIPE people there next year. It would be even better if NCC could also get involved in some way. Organising a panel? Or sponsoring some nice coffee! Gordon

1 0

RIPE NCC Signs MoU with ARISPA
by Paul Rendek 26 Jan '17

26 Jan '17

Dear colleagues, I’m pleased to announce that today the RIPE NCC signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with ARISPA, the Arab Regional ISPs & DSPs Association. The MoU formalises the existing relationship between the RIPE NCC and ARISPA, a non-profit organisation whose members include Arab Internet and data service providers. It focuses on capacity building to support the development of the Arab Internet community. You can find the full news announcement here: https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/about-ripe-ncc-and-ripe/ripe-ncc-and… You can also find the MoU itself, along with the other agreements we have with external organisations, on the RIPE NCC website: https://www.ripe.net/about-us/what-we-do/engagement-external-organisations Please let us know if you have any questions or comments. Kind regards, Paul Rendek Director of External Relations RIPE NCC

1 0

RIPE Accountability Task Force - Draft Scope and Webpage Published
by Athina Fragkouli 23 Jan '17

23 Jan '17

Dear colleagues, As announced in November 2016, the RIPE Accountability Task Force is undertaking a review of the community's procedures, documentation and structures. A webpage for the Task Force has now been published, which includes a scope. This scope is currently draft and the Task Force will share an updated version with the community ahead of RIPE 74: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/tf/ripe-accountability-task-force/ An open mailing list has been created for the Task Force's discussions and is publicly archived: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/accountability-tf/ If you have any feedback or would like to join the Task Force, please send an email to <athina.fragkouli(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards Athina Fragkouli Head of Legal RIPE NCC

1 0

Re: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Contribution to the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation
by Richard Hill 27 Dec '16

27 Dec '16

Dear Gordon Thank you for this. As you may recall, I was a member of the WSIS secretariat when the text in question was negotiated and I was involved in the discussions. As I recall, the term "enhanced coordination" was used as a an euphemism for "end unilateral US control of Internet governance in general and of ICANN and IANA in particular". However, after the text was agreed, there was disagreement regarding its intent: as I recall, the USA took the view that the intent was to encourage more cooperation amongst UN agencies and between those agencies and other Internet governance bodies such as ICANN. But others might have different recollections. Best Richard Sent from Samsung Mobile. <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13(a)gmail.com> </div><div>Date:26/12/2016 10:46 (GMT-04:00) </div><div>To: Cooperation WG <cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net> </div><div>Cc: Chris Buckridge <chrisb(a)ripe.net> </div><div>Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Contribution to the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation </div><div> </div>I find it interesting how the term “enhanced cooperation” has been interpreted in ways that I think are quite different to what was in the minds of at least some of the people who I understand originally proposed it. In EU relations “enhanced cooperation” has a specific meaning. It was introduced in the Treaty of Amsterdam: so akin to a "term of art”, if you will. Enhanced cooperation, in the EU, was not meant to imply simply better cooperation: it was about differentiated cooperation. In that environment it was and is about some, not all, member states cooperating more fully, more closely, on certain items even in the absence of a wider consensus. So the idea was that, even in a UN-related context, certain states could cooperate more closely, even in the absence of more general agreement? Given the significant on-going restructuring in terms of international relationships one might imagine a shift back to the original intent. Happy holidays! Gordon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_cooperation > On 23 Dec 2016, at 11:42, Chris Buckridge <chrisb(a)ripe.net> wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > One of the outcomes of last year’s 10-year review of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) was the formation of a Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation on Public Policy Issues Pertaining to the Internet (WGEC). Established under the United Nations’ Commission on Science and Technology for Development (CSTD), the Working Group was set up in response to the feeling expressed by some UN Member States that there was a need to "develop recommendations on how to further implement enhanced cooperation as envisioned in the Tunis Agenda." > > More information on the Working Group is available at: > http://unctad.org/en/Pages/CSTD/WGEC-2016-to-2018.aspx > > Coming out of the Working Group’s initial meeting in September, there was an open call for contributions in response to two questions: > >> - What are the high level characteristics of enhanced cooperation? >> - Taking into consideration the work of the previous WGEC and the Tunis Agenda, particularly paragraphs 69-71, what kind of recommendations should we consider? > > > Working closely with one of the technical community members of the Working Group, Nick Ashton-Hart, the RIPE NCC developed and submitted a document responding to these questions: > https://www.ripe.net/participate/internet-governance/multi-stakeholder-enga… > > In summary, the document notes that, while cooperation amongst all stakeholders is vital in developing Internet capacity, it is important that these efforts focus on practical benefits, and that they be minimally distortive or disruptive to the shared platform that is the Internet. > > The Working Group will hold its next meeting on 26-27 January 2017 in Geneva, where it will consider the contributions received and the way forward for its work. > > Happy, as always, to discuss any questions or comments. Meanwhile, best wishes to those celebrating Christmas/New Year in the coming days and weeks! > > Cheers, > > Chris Buckridge > External Relations Manager > RIPE NCC

5 6

Re: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Contribution to the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation
by rhill＠hill-a.ch 26 Dec '16

26 Dec '16

1 0

RIPE NCC Contribution to the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation
by Chris Buckridge 26 Dec '16

26 Dec '16

Dear colleagues, One of the outcomes of last year’s 10-year review of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) was the formation of a Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation on Public Policy Issues Pertaining to the Internet (WGEC). Established under the United Nations’ Commission on Science and Technology for Development (CSTD), the Working Group was set up in response to the feeling expressed by some UN Member States that there was a need to "develop recommendations on how to further implement enhanced cooperation as envisioned in the Tunis Agenda." More information on the Working Group is available at: http://unctad.org/en/Pages/CSTD/WGEC-2016-to-2018.aspx Coming out of the Working Group’s initial meeting in September, there was an open call for contributions in response to two questions: > - What are the high level characteristics of enhanced cooperation? > - Taking into consideration the work of the previous WGEC and the Tunis Agenda, particularly paragraphs 69-71, what kind of recommendations should we consider? Working closely with one of the technical community members of the Working Group, Nick Ashton-Hart, the RIPE NCC developed and submitted a document responding to these questions: https://www.ripe.net/participate/internet-governance/multi-stakeholder-enga… In summary, the document notes that, while cooperation amongst all stakeholders is vital in developing Internet capacity, it is important that these efforts focus on practical benefits, and that they be minimally distortive or disruptive to the shared platform that is the Internet. The Working Group will hold its next meeting on 26-27 January 2017 in Geneva, where it will consider the contributions received and the way forward for its work. Happy, as always, to discuss any questions or comments. Meanwhile, best wishes to those celebrating Christmas/New Year in the coming days and weeks! Cheers, Chris Buckridge External Relations Manager RIPE NCC

3 5