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Co-chairs - current status?
by Gordon Lennox 15 Jul '16

15 Jul '16

I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to step down as she has done. I have already written to her with my personal thanks for the effort she put in. However in her most recent e-mail she recalled that we had four candidates for the positions of co-chair: • Achilleas Kemos • Collin Anderson • Julf Helsingius • Analia Aspis After explaining various things she wrote, "In my place, I will appoint Collin, Achilleas, and Julf as co-chairs.” Since then Collin has also sadly stepped down. May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves candidates and whether they are ready to work together as co-chairs for the WG. I would hope this to be the case. But it would help us all if they could confirm promptly and allow us to formalise things and to move on. We can then look at the appointment of a third co-chair when things have settled down. Gordon

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Re: [cooperation-wg] cooperation-wg Digest, Vol 54, Issue 6
by Corinne Cath 14 Jul '16

14 Jul '16

Dear all, I would like to echo the sentiments by Gordon and Julf. It is a great loss for the cooperation WG that Meredith has decided to step down, and I hope she reconsiders. I cannot speak for the group, but I want to say that her enthusiasm, experience and dedication will be sorely missed. Something we will all realize soon enough. The same holds for Collin's efforts and support to the WG. I hope the remaining candidates are not scared away by what seems to be politics with a very very tiny 'p', that have colored the discussions and going-ons of late in this WG. I also believe that we should move swiftly in putting in place new (co) chairs, and I support Gordon's suggestions on how to move forward. Best, Corinne Cath On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:00 AM, <cooperation-wg-request(a)ripe.net> wrote: > Send cooperation-wg mailing list submissions to > cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/cooperation-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cooperation-wg-request(a)ripe.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cooperation-wg-owner(a)ripe.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cooperation-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Co-chairs - current status? (Gordon Lennox) > 2. Re: Co-chairs - current status? (Johan Helsingius) > 3. Re: Co-chairs - current status? (Meredith Whittaker) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:42:57 +0200 > From: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13(a)gmail.com> > To: Cooperation WG <cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net> > Subject: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? > Message-ID: <24422550-1783-44F4-9388-828F77F2B9A4(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to step down as she has > done. I have already written to her with my personal thanks for the effort > she put in. > > However in her most recent e-mail she recalled that we had four candidates > for the positions of co-chair: > > ? Achilleas Kemos > ? Collin Anderson > ? Julf Helsingius > ? Analia Aspis > > After explaining various things she wrote, "In my place, I will appoint > Collin, Achilleas, and Julf as co-chairs.? > > Since then Collin has also sadly stepped down. > > May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves candidates and > whether they are ready to work together as co-chairs for the WG. > > I would hope this to be the case. But it would help us all if they could > confirm promptly and allow us to formalise things and to move on. > > We can then look at the appointment of a third co-chair when things have > settled down. > > Gordon > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:59:26 +0200 > From: Johan Helsingius <julf(a)julf.com> > To: cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? > Message-ID: <5786574E.1050906(a)julf.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Gordon, > > > I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to > > step down as she has done. > > I agree - I really hope Meredith will re-consider, as I > think we all agree that her contributions have been > extremely valuable, and would certainly continue to be so. > The same goes for Collin - and I don't think anyone in > this WG had any desire to replace either of them, simply > to provide additional support and resources. > > > May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves > > candidates and whether they are ready to work together as > > co-chairs for the WG. > > I hereby confirm that I am still ready to work as co-chair, > but I sincerely hope Meredith and Collin will reconsider > their positions. > > Julf > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:51:22 -0400 > From: Meredith Whittaker <meredithrachel(a)google.com> > To: Johan Helsingius <julf(a)julf.com> > Cc: "cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net" <cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net> > Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Co-chairs - current status? > Message-ID: > < > CAHx-7Ow+6S+bwvM3p8yT_bdHctzju_PN3SDrkmKsEDHZZKC9QA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Julf, Gordon, > > Thank you for your kind words. > > I am not planning to reconsider stepping down, although I appreciate the > entreaty. This due both to the climate on the WG list, and to my personal > workload, which was already making it very difficult to act as chair. Note > that Collin has never been an "official" WG chair. He has merely dedicated > his time and expertise to the group in the past. > > Thanks, > Meredith > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Johan Helsingius <julf(a)julf.com> wrote: > > > Gordon, > > > > > I very much regret that Meredith felt it necessary to > > > step down as she has done. > > > > I agree - I really hope Meredith will re-consider, as I > > think we all agree that her contributions have been > > extremely valuable, and would certainly continue to be so. > > The same goes for Collin - and I don't think anyone in > > this WG had any desire to replace either of them, simply > > to provide additional support and resources. > > > > > May I ask if Achilleas and Julf still consider themselves > > > candidates and whether they are ready to work together as > > > co-chairs for the WG. > > > > I hereby confirm that I am still ready to work as co-chair, > > but I sincerely hope Meredith and Collin will reconsider > > their positions. > > > > Julf > > > > > > > > > -- > Meredith Whittaker > Open Research Lead > Google NYC >

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time-lines for co-chair appointments
by Jim Reid 12 Jul '16

12 Jul '16

Meredith, I think there’s confusion and uncertainty about the (provisional) schedule for selecting the WG co-chair(s). Well, at least I’m confused and uncertain about what’s meant to be happening. :-) Could you please clarify matters? I have three questions: [1] Is the WG to appoint one or two co-chairs alongside yourself? [2] When is a consensus judgement to be made about who gets appointed? You said in Copenhagen and on the list that this would be done within a week or so: ie by now. Collin proposed a revised schedule. But it doesn’t appear to have had much support from the WG. So it’s not clear (at least not to me) if we’re following that time-line or the earlier one you suggested during the last RIPE meeting. [3] Is the WG expected to reach consensus on Co-chair criteria/requirements before or after the appointment of additional co-chair(s)? If it’s the former, what’s the time-line for the WG to agree those criteria? It might be helpful to open up discrete threads on the list for each answer and have a clear proposal for each that the WG comment on. For instance, “I think the WG should appoint N co-chairs. WG, please say on the list by $date whether you agree with that or not. Silence implies consent.”.

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Re: [cooperation-wg] time-lines for co-chair appointments
by Peter Koch 12 Jul '16

12 Jul '16

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:58:52PM +0200, Johan Helsingius wrote: > I appreciate the expressions of support from both you and Nick, > but at the same time I agree that it is up to the current chair(s) > to decide, and I do feel that it is important the co-chairs are > people the current chair(s) feel happy to work with. I feel that we have a significant confusion regarding the chairs' role and position. <https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/coop/cooperation-wg-chair-selectio…> is quite clear in stating that the two or three chairs are collectively chairing the goup, but the WG gets to decide (which is not unlike the other RIPE WGs). I have not received signals that the WG was accidentally off track with combining its choices. -Peter

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Fwd: [ripe-list] ICANN and Regional Internet Registries Sign SLA for the IANA Numbering Services
by Johan Helsingius 03 Jul '16

03 Jul '16

Just back from ICANN56 - and I am sure you all saw this announcement that Nick sent out. On Wednesday, RIPE (and the other RIRs) and ICANN signed the IANA Numbering Services SLA, so the work of the CRISP team is now done (and the team dissolved). At ICANN56 we also clarified some of the outstanding issues related to the post-transition IANA, and earlier in June NTIA published a report stating that their criteria for the transition have been fulfilled, so we are closer and closer to actually completing the transition - US politics willing... Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [ripe-list] ICANN and Regional Internet Registries Sign SLA for the IANA Numbering Services Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:35:42 +0200 From: Nick Hyrka <ripencc-management(a)ripe.net> Reply-To: ripencc-management(a)ripe.net Organization: RIPE NCC To: ripe-list(a)ripe.net This message is sent on behalf of the Number Resource Organization (NRO) ICANN and Regional Internet Registries Sign SLA for the IANA Numbering Services Helsinki, Finland – 29 June 2016. The RIRs and ICANN signed the Service Level Agreement (SLA) for the IANA Numbering Services today at ICANN 56 in Helsinki, Finland. This agreement documents the arrangements for provision by ICANN of IANA numbering services, after the IANA stewardship transition which is expected to occur on 30 September 2016. The SLA will only come into effect with the transition, and will have no effect whatsoever before that time. This event is a significant milestone in the long process of transition planning which started in March 2014 with US Government announcement. The process involved huge efforts by the Internet number community collectively, and by teams formed specifically to carry out the work. In particular the NRO Executive Council expresses its sincere thanks for the contribution by CRISP members during the last year and a half in the IANA Stewardship Transition Process. The CRISP Team worked tirelessly to integrate and consolidate the views from the five different regional communities into a single proposal. As the work of the CRISP team is now finally complete, we hereby announce that the team is formally dissolved. Finally the NRO EC also wishes acknowledge the support of the ICANN Board and staff who worked hard with us to finalise the SLA and ensure it was completed on time. The final version of the SLA is available at: http://www.nro.net/sla

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