Status update: blog post and socialising the draft CoC with ENOG, MENOG and SEE
Hi, A quick update to let you know that after a discussion with Mirjam, we have published the blog post earlier than previously planned and it is now at the top of https://labs.ripe.net. Mirjam will make sure that ENOG, MENOG, and SEE are alerted to the blog post so that they can decide whether they want to adopt the CoC when it is finalised. Kind regards, Leo
Thanks Leo. It's interesting, one of the questions I've seen most often about the CoC is why the various Programme Committees have any say in whether it's applied to their events. I think we definitely need feedback from a wider pool here, but I think that's going to be something we need RIPE Chair Team support to explain. Brian Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: coc-tf <coc-tf-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> Sent: Thursday 15 April 2021 20:07 To: coc-tf@ripe.net <coc-tf@ripe.net> Subject: [coc-tf] Status update: blog post and socialising the draft CoC with ENOG, MENOG and SEE CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi, A quick update to let you know that after a discussion with Mirjam, we have published the blog post earlier than previously planned and it is now at the top of https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flabs.ripe..... Mirjam will make sure that ENOG, MENOG, and SEE are alerted to the blog post so that they can decide whether they want to adopt the CoC when it is finalised. Kind regards, Leo -- coc-tf mailing list coc-tf@ripe.net https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ripe...
Hi Brian, Leo asked me to jump in here: As far as I understand, it's the communities as a whole (not the programme committees) who will have a say in whether they want to adopt this specific code of conduct. That's why I suggested to reach out to the ENOG, MENOG and SEE lists now to encourage them to review the code of conduct and the RIPE Labs article. As organiser of the events, the RIPE NCC might actually insist that there is some kind of a code in place. And I am hoping that the regional communities will appreciate all the work the TF has done and will adopt the RIPE Code of Conduct. Kind regards, Mirjam On 16/04/2021 10:40, Brian Nisbet wrote:
Thanks Leo.
It's interesting, one of the questions I've seen most often about the CoC is why the various Programme Committees have any say in whether it's applied to their events. I think we definitely need feedback from a wider pool here, but I think that's going to be something we need RIPE Chair Team support to explain.
Brian
Brian Nisbet (he/him)
Service Operations Manager
HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland
+35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie
Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
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Hi,
A quick update to let you know that after a discussion with Mirjam, we have published the blog post earlier than previously planned and it is now at the top of https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flabs.ripe.... <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flabs.ripe.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb2a68f7582e443e5727808d90041b816%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637541104999057977%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=mBpGSKfmcLf7i92cQELyP7Mb6zSGFe8C4qUK3YR7FJU%3D&reserved=0>.
Mirjam will make sure that ENOG, MENOG, and SEE are alerted to the blog post so that they can decide whether they want to adopt the CoC when it is finalised.
Kind regards,
Leo
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Mirjam, Thanks, but we reference PCs in the CoC as it stands right now, so this is all data for consideration, really, about what is the best approach. I mean, I would like the CoC to be a condition of running an event supported by the NCC, but I do not claim to understand the cultural differences in different parts of the service region and how such things might interact. Brian Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: coc-tf <coc-tf-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Mirjam Kuehne <mir@zu-hause.nl> Sent: Friday 16 April 2021 14:47 To: coc-tf@ripe.net <coc-tf@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [coc-tf] Status update: blog post and socialising the draft CoC with ENOG, MENOG and SEE CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Brian, Leo asked me to jump in here: As far as I understand, it's the communities as a whole (not the programme committees) who will have a say in whether they want to adopt this specific code of conduct. That's why I suggested to reach out to the ENOG, MENOG and SEE lists now to encourage them to review the code of conduct and the RIPE Labs article. As organiser of the events, the RIPE NCC might actually insist that there is some kind of a code in place. And I am hoping that the regional communities will appreciate all the work the TF has done and will adopt the RIPE Code of Conduct. Kind regards, Mirjam On 16/04/2021 10:40, Brian Nisbet wrote:
Thanks Leo.
It's interesting, one of the questions I've seen most often about the CoC is why the various Programme Committees have any say in whether it's applied to their events. I think we definitely need feedback from a wider pool here, but I think that's going to be something we need RIPE Chair Team support to explain.
Brian
Brian Nisbet (he/him)
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HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland
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Hi,
A quick update to let you know that after a discussion with Mirjam, we have published the blog post earlier than previously planned and it is now at the top of https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flabs.ripe.... <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flabs.ripe.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ceaa767950b4a4c70699708d900de3b84%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637541776761884974%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=puoBBoR%2FjVauXe36XdOZfngGh7T4aGoXZBUsjxHdX%2BI%3D&reserved=0>.
Mirjam will make sure that ENOG, MENOG, and SEE are alerted to the blog post so that they can decide whether they want to adopt the CoC when it is finalised.
Kind regards,
Leo
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Hi Brian, On 16/04/2021 15:54, Brian Nisbet wrote:
Mirjam,
Thanks, but we reference PCs in the CoC as it stands right now, so this is all data for consideration, really, about what is the best approach. Yes, I understand. I was actually under the impression that some of the other events have organising committees in addition to the PCs, but in fact it's the RIPE NCC who is taking that role at the moment.
I mean, I would like the CoC to be a condition of running an event supported by the NCC, but I do not claim to understand the cultural differences in different parts of the service region and how such things might interact.
Exactly. That was one reason why I wanted to include the other regional communities at this stage so they can possibly make adjustments if needed. Mirjam
Brian
Brian Nisbet (he/him)
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HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
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Hi Brian,
Leo asked me to jump in here: As far as I understand, it's the communities as a whole (not the programme committees) who will have a say in whether they want to adopt this specific code of conduct. That's why I suggested to reach out to the ENOG, MENOG and SEE lists now to encourage them to review the code of conduct and the RIPE Labs article.
As organiser of the events, the RIPE NCC might actually insist that there is some kind of a code in place. And I am hoping that the regional communities will appreciate all the work the TF has done and will adopt the RIPE Code of Conduct.
Kind regards, Mirjam
On 16/04/2021 10:40, Brian Nisbet wrote:
Thanks Leo.
It's interesting, one of the questions I've seen most often about the CoC is why the various Programme Committees have any say in whether it's applied to their events. I think we definitely need feedback from a wider pool here, but I think that's going to be something we need RIPE Chair Team support to explain.
Brian
Brian Nisbet (he/him)
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HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
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Hi,
A quick update to let you know that after a discussion with Mirjam, we have published the blog post earlier than previously planned and it is now at the top of
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Mirjam will make sure that ENOG, MENOG, and SEE are alerted to the blog post so that they can decide whether they want to adopt the CoC when it is finalised.
Kind regards,
Leo
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Leo Vegoda -
Mirjam Kuehne