Hi, We had an informal chat today instead of a formal meeting as a couple of people were ill and others had time constraints. We chatted about both the amount of feedback we have seen so far and the upcoming RIPE meeting. I agreed to send a reminder to the list in case people missed the original announcement. We also discussed holding a BoF at RIPE 82 and thought it was a good idea. As the closing date for submissions is tomorrow, I have made a submission with this abstract and a very simple agenda: CoC TF BoF at RIPE 82 This BoF aims to present the work delivered by the Code of Conduct TF, gather input from the community on that work, and discuss the TF’s next steps: ● Code of Conduct team selection ● Reporting and operational procedures for the Code of Conduct team Separately, I proposed that we keep the same meeting cadence in Q2, with adjustments for public holidays, as it didn't seem to be a bad time for anyone. Kind regards, Leo
Leo, Thanks for this. I note, from reading Anthony's excellent minutes, that my initial thinking on any interactions during RIPE 82 should be in the vein of presenting work as done, not as something to be further discussed, and I know I went back a little on that on Thursday, however... I would still prefer us to present it as done (unless there is significant pushback on the mailing list) but to emphasise that CoCs should be living documents and certainly listening if people do have feedback, if that makes sense? Happy to discuss this more on a future call pre-82 ofc. Thanks, Brian Brian Nisbet (he/him) Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: coc-tf <coc-tf-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> Sent: Thursday 18 March 2021 17:02 To: coc-tf@ripe.net <coc-tf@ripe.net> Subject: [coc-tf] Update following today's discussion CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi, We had an informal chat today instead of a formal meeting as a couple of people were ill and others had time constraints. We chatted about both the amount of feedback we have seen so far and the upcoming RIPE meeting. I agreed to send a reminder to the list in case people missed the original announcement. We also discussed holding a BoF at RIPE 82 and thought it was a good idea. As the closing date for submissions is tomorrow, I have made a submission with this abstract and a very simple agenda: CoC TF BoF at RIPE 82 This BoF aims to present the work delivered by the Code of Conduct TF, gather input from the community on that work, and discuss the TF’s next steps: ● Code of Conduct team selection ● Reporting and operational procedures for the Code of Conduct team Separately, I proposed that we keep the same meeting cadence in Q2, with adjustments for public holidays, as it didn't seem to be a bad time for anyone. Kind regards, Leo
Hi Brian, I think I agree with you. I tried to phrase the abstract for the Programme Committee in a way that did not suggest that the draft is going to be the final document. It's possible the RIPE Chair will ask us to incorporate some of the feedback we get into an updated version. Ideally, we should either be able to share that updated version or say what the changes will be. We should not be asking to open another round of comment on a new draft unless we need to make significant changes. I hope that we could use the BoF to gather input on what processes for a CoC Team would need to look like, given the expanded scope. That should help us understand the requirements for composition of the CoC Team. Kind regards, Leo On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 3:42 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Leo,
Thanks for this. I note, from reading Anthony's excellent minutes, that my initial thinking on any interactions during RIPE 82 should be in the vein of presenting work as done, not as something to be further discussed, and I know I went back a little on that on Thursday, however...
I would still prefer us to present it as done (unless there is significant pushback on the mailing list) but to emphasise that CoCs should be living documents and certainly listening if people do have feedback, if that makes sense?
Happy to discuss this more on a future call pre-82 ofc.
Thanks,
Brian
Brian Nisbet (he/him)
Service Operations Manager
HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland
+35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie
Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270
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Hi,
We had an informal chat today instead of a formal meeting as a couple of people were ill and others had time constraints.
We chatted about both the amount of feedback we have seen so far and the upcoming RIPE meeting. I agreed to send a reminder to the list in case people missed the original announcement. We also discussed holding a BoF at RIPE 82 and thought it was a good idea. As the closing date for submissions is tomorrow, I have made a submission with this abstract and a very simple agenda:
CoC TF BoF at RIPE 82 This BoF aims to present the work delivered by the Code of Conduct TF, gather input from the community on that work, and discuss the TF’s next steps: ● Code of Conduct team selection ● Reporting and operational procedures for the Code of Conduct team
Separately, I proposed that we keep the same meeting cadence in Q2, with adjustments for public holidays, as it didn't seem to be a bad time for anyone.
Kind regards,
Leo
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