Hello, Following Marco Schmidt's very informative presentation during RIPE93, it's maybe time to revisit the IPv4 address allocation policy. Possible options were presented by Marco, in order to ease restrictions, such as: allow repeated requests or increase allocation size. There are many arguments to be made here, both for and against, so I'll just state the "new ISP/MSP" case: with 256 IPv4 addresses, the provider is pretty much limited in their options and while growing they'll have to either buy IPv4 addresses (thus feeding and extending this vicious circle) or strangle their users (with less ports or more aggressive NATs etc). All I'm trying to say that, ISPs (like IXPs, which are BTW treated differently) are different from other RIPE members and providing they can show said growth and plans, they should be able to get additional IPv4 allocations. In essence, not all LIRs are equally displeased with this policy. Some are more displeased than others. Regards, Yannis