Dear Accountability Task Force, I am sure you have been following the recent discussions on the ripe-list regarding the TF work. Some of it are extensions from the correspondence happened before and during the last RIPE meeting. After some deep consideration I have decided to step down from the Task Force, both as a chair and a member. This was not a light decision I took. I would like to explain my main reasons to you, as you deserve to know, having spent time and energy on this matter so far with me, before I send an announcement to the RIPE list: a) The tone of the recent conversations made me question whether there is enough willingness, interest and/or trust from the larger part of the community towards the Task Force to perform within its scope at all. After 6 months from its inception a Task Force should not be questioned about its scope in principle if that scope is able to speak to a community it serves to. b) Even if there is enough interest from the community, the current tone of the discussions are rather disruptive and take away from the time and energy that I can devote to the task for the actual work. I keep finding myself needing to respond to some, in my opinion, irrelevant commentary on the list, rather than being able to focus on the actual TF work. You may remember when I accepted to Co-Chair the TF I already made everyone aware that I was very much time challenged with my newly assumed position in my day job. At this point I am afraid I do not see how I can contribute under the current circumstances. I still am very glad I took part in the Task Force so far and got to know you better all, even if limited. I care about the topics that the Task Force highlighted so far and I will do my best to contribute to the discussions that the TF work will generate once it is published. In fact I am looking forward to that. I wish you the best and hope to connect soon again. Filiz Yilmaz
On 18/05/2017 11:49, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:
I am sure you have been following the recent discussions on the ripe-list regarding the TF work. Some of it are extensions from the correspondence happened before and during the last RIPE meeting.
No, I haven't seen any further discussion since the last RIPE meeting. If it has continued off ripe-list in another forum, please could you point me at it. Or were you referring to Daniel's pre-meeting message? If so, while I respect the reasons for your decision, I hope we will not take Daniel's somewhat antagonistic attitude as fatal to the work of this group. Malcolm. -- Malcolm Hutty | tel: +44 20 7645 3523 Head of Public Affairs | Read the LINX Public Affairs blog London Internet Exchange | http://publicaffairs.linx.net/ London Internet Exchange Ltd Monument Place, 24 Monument Street London EC3R 8AJ Company Registered in England No. 3137929 Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:58:30PM +0100, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
If it has continued off ripe-list in another forum, please could you point me at it.
I can't speak for Filiz, whose leave I take with regret, but a look into the recent posts to <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-chair-discuss/> might be helpful. -Peter
Dear Filiz, Somewhat of a late response from me. (Apologies, I have been a little bit swamped with work this month.) I am very sorry to hear this. And while I respect your decision of course, I want you to know that I think you have done a stellar job in chairing this TF. As always when you start asking difficult questions, you get difficult discussions, so it has not been an easy endeavour. But you have steered this group forward in a very competent manner. So thank you. Nurani
On 18 May 2017, at 12:49, Filiz Yilmaz <koalafil@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Accountability Task Force,
I am sure you have been following the recent discussions on the ripe-list regarding the TF work. Some of it are extensions from the correspondence happened before and during the last RIPE meeting.
After some deep consideration I have decided to step down from the Task Force, both as a chair and a member. This was not a light decision I took. I would like to explain my main reasons to you, as you deserve to know, having spent time and energy on this matter so far with me, before I send an announcement to the RIPE list:
a) The tone of the recent conversations made me question whether there is enough willingness, interest and/or trust from the larger part of the community towards the Task Force to perform within its scope at all. After 6 months from its inception a Task Force should not be questioned about its scope in principle if that scope is able to speak to a community it serves to.
b) Even if there is enough interest from the community, the current tone of the discussions are rather disruptive and take away from the time and energy that I can devote to the task for the actual work. I keep finding myself needing to respond to some, in my opinion, irrelevant commentary on the list, rather than being able to focus on the actual TF work. You may remember when I accepted to Co-Chair the TF I already made everyone aware that I was very much time challenged with my newly assumed position in my day job. At this point I am afraid I do not see how I can contribute under the current circumstances.
I still am very glad I took part in the Task Force so far and got to know you better all, even if limited. I care about the topics that the Task Force highlighted so far and I will do my best to contribute to the discussions that the TF work will generate once it is published. In fact I am looking forward to that.
I wish you the best and hope to connect soon again.
Filiz Yilmaz
Dear Filiz, a 'me too' always appears a little lame to me. Nonetheless let me join Nurani here: On 24.05.2017 15:06, Nurani Nimpuno wrote:
Somewhat of a late response from me. (Apologies, I have been a little bit swamped with work this month.)
I am very sorry to hear this. And while I respect your decision of course, I want you to know that I think you have done a stellar job in chairing this TF. As always when you start asking difficult questions, you get difficult discussions, so it has not been an easy endeavour. But you have steered this group forward in a very competent manner.
So thank you.
thanks a bunch! Cheers, -C.
participants (5)
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Carsten Schiefner
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Filiz Yilmaz
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Malcolm Hutty
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Nurani Nimpuno
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Peter Koch