
Dear ccTLD Managers, As previously announced, a CENTR workshop is to be held for managers of TLD registries in Edinburgh 21 September 1998. The meeting is schedule between 10.00 and 17.00 and will take place at The University of Edinburgh, George Square Complex, William Robertson Building, Edinburgh, Scotland. As with the technical workshop, the aim of the managerial workshop will be to encourage discussion and exchange of experiences. Discussion leaders for each topic will give presentations and then open the debate to all participants. Four proposed topics are listed below. If you manage a ccTLD and wish to attend, please reply completing the template at the end of this email. Places are restricted to 26 and so initially we must limit participation to one person per TLD. Preference will be given to CENTR participants should applications exceed 26. Developing local TLD policy and naming rules: Many ccTLD are at some stage in the process of restructuring their registry and/or reviewing their current naming policy example being: - Creation of a new organization to replace work done on a voluntary basis by a university or academic network. - Introduction of charges for registering domain names or review of existing charging model. - Review of naming policy and naming restriction (liberal stance of first-come-first-served versus strict naming policy) - Government requirement Whatever changes are envisaged, it is often necessary to consult with the local networking community/service providers and even the general internet using public within the country. The participants will see examples of how this process has been handled in some countries followed by open discussion on how to manage consultation and to "sell" the changes to the public. Possible areas of harmonization for ccTLDs There are many organizations keen to document the practices of TLD registries around the world and the CENTR project has been collecting information on the participating ccTLDs. There is often talk of 'best practice' and even standardization of ccTLD rules and policies. With one of the key requirements of ccTLDs being autonomy and with the diversity of economies, legal systems and cultures, is there any room for harmonization? This session will examine information gathered in accordance with the CENTR template and also discuss areas where some level of harmonization may be achieved. Example might be who-is database policy, quality, pricing structure. Pooling Resources and Joint Funding One of the roles of the established CENTR should be to coordinate or commission projects on behalf of members. Pooling of resources or sharing the cost of software developments for example would be a significant benefit of CENTR membership. This item relates also to discussion at the technical workshop at which there was general agreement that the development of BIND Software is very important and should be supported by ccTLDs. A short presentation will be given by David Conrad of Internet Software Consortium on how CENTR members, as funders, could have input into the direction that new BIND developments take. Discussion will then be opened to identify other areas where CENTR can initiate work or coordinate the pooling of ideas/manpower on behalf of its members. Who-is Policy There has already been some debate on the issue of acceptable use of who-is database information. The session will begin with a presentation on the problems of confidentiality, misuse and possible solutions. There will also be a presentation on possible legitimate and acceptable use of who-is data before the debate is opened up to the participants. ************************** REGISTRATION FOR CENTR WORKSHOP I wish to attend the CENTR workshop for Managers of TLD Rgistries Name: Organization and country: Position held: Any other Comments: ************************* -------- Logged at Thu Aug 27 23:57:27 MET DST 1998 ---------

Fay Howard wrote:
If you manage a ccTLD and wish to attend, please reply completing the template at the end of this email. Places are restricted to 26 and so initially we must limit participation to one person per TLD. Preference will be given to CENTR participants should applications exceed 26.
Mmm. You should include "alternative" cccTLDs managers, too.
There is often talk of 'best practice' and even standardization of ccTLD rules and policies. With one of the key requirements of ccTLDs being autonomy and with the diversity of economies, legal systems and cultures, is there any room for harmonization?
It should. You should ask Artur Grzymala <artur at zoo.pl> and Veni Markovski <veni at isoc.bg> about their respective ccTLDs policies.
One of the roles of the established CENTR should be to coordinate or commission projects on behalf of members. Pooling of resources or sharing the cost of software developments for example would be a significant benefit of CENTR membership.
It would be for all Internet participants, too... The IRSC (http://www.irsc.ah.net ) has already established a so-called "alternative" root servers network enabling virtually anybody to create his/her own TLD(s), with the agreement and the cooperation of the other IRSC members. The IRSC is supported by ISPs, IPPs, etc. as well as end-users. We are currently serving an estimated share of 30% of global DNS traffic. Some of our european members (see above) have created "alternative" cccTLDs, because of their ccTLDs politics or private monopols. Best regards, -- Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS http://www.ludexpress.com http://www.nicwine.net http://www.irsc.ah.net 3:213 WINE Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu n'gah Bill R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtagn -------- Logged at Fri Aug 28 06:40:05 MET DST 1998 ---------

At 00:02 28/08/98 +0200, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote:
If you manage a ccTLD and wish to attend, please reply completing the at the end of this email. Places are restricted to 26 and so initially we must limit participation to one person per TLD. Preference will be given to CENTR participants should applications exceed 26.
Mmm. You should include "alternative" cccTLDs managers, too.
Yes, I think it would be wise to include holders of 3 letter Country Codes as well. There are several now: Bulgaria .BUL Veni Markovski <veni at isoc.bg> Poland .POL Artur Grzymala <artur at zoo.pl> Australia .AUS Adam Todd <at at ah.net> New Zealand .NZL Alan Brown <alanb at manawatu.gen.nz> PNG .PNG Application in process And more are joining every day. Literally.
There is often talk of 'best practice' and even standardization of ccTLD and policies. With one of the key requirements of ccTLDs being autonomy and with the diversity of economies, legal systems and cultures, is there any for harmonization?
It should. You should ask Artur Grzymala <artur at zoo.pl> and Veni Markovski <veni at isoc.bg> about their respective ccTLDs policies.
Ask me about AUS practises. We made a dramatic change in July because of a major Fraud incident caused by a Registrar.
One of the roles of the established CENTR should be to coordinate or commission projects on behalf of members. Pooling of resources or sharing cost of software developments for example would be a significant benefit of CENTR membership.
It would be for all Internet participants, too...
There are already many Shared Registry and Registra data base processes developed by Enhanced DNS operators. Some are commercially available, some are run by companies strictly interested in licencing the use of, but not the software. Such as AHNET for example who run replicated Databases for Registries and Registrars under contract. This eliminated much of the cost of administration of a ccTLD and allows the technology to be developed far quicker where needed. Unfortunatly, AHNET needs ccTLD operators to at least provide a number of diverse TLD Hosting servers, although it's happy to offer a Primary or at least secondary hosting for TLD data.
The IRSC (http://www.irsc.ah.net ) has already established a so-called "alternative" root servers network enabling virtually anybody to create
Enhanced Root Server Network.
his/her own TLD(s), with the agreement and the cooperation of the other IRSC members.
IRSC is only responsible for the syncronisation of Root Server Members. Anyone who wishes to apply for a TLD can do so via an RSC according to that RSC's policy. Many RSCs also have DNS hosting facilities - often for free - that can be used, so infrastructure as described above can be quickly reduced to give the consumer a faster better response. Even less TLD host servers to choose from maybe in the long term. But it's a cooperative effort. AURSC has a fairly strict policy on TLD entry. ccTLD's can enter after submission of a policy, but AURSC will not specifically Authorise the policy acceptence as AURSC is not familiar with local laws and rules. AURSC will however suggest any necessary fair modifications that should be taken into consideration. After AURSC has approved acceptence the TLD is added to AURSC and distributed to the IRSC members. This is working very well now. Anyone who runs a Root Server (proper Root Server, we can test and even help set one up if required) can enter IRSC by applying to IRSC.
The IRSC is supported by ISPs, IPPs, etc. as well as end-users. We are currently serving an estimated share of 30% of global DNS traffic.
Fair estimate - it's growing, I noticed about 8 new ISP's from Europe and the USA start using AURSC this week.
Some of our european members (see above) have created "alternative" cccTLDs, because of their ccTLDs politics or private monopols.
Lets say "Optional" rather than Alternative. Although the words are synonomous, some people have hurt the word Alternative. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam Todd http://adamtodd.ah.net Business Development, Technology, Domain Registration and Network Advisory Phone +61 2 9729 0565 - Todd Corporation http://www.todd.inoz.com Fax +61 2 4659 6786 - AHNET http://www.ah.net - AURSC http://www.aursc.ah.net Telstra Reseller and Telstra Convey Member (Not an Employee of Telstra) Get the DOMAIN NAME HANDBOOK NOW http://www.domainhandbook.com -------- Logged at Fri Aug 28 17:17:31 MET DST 1998 ---------

On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote: If RIPE CENTR includes "alternate" cccTLDs in its charter, .il will have to withdraw its support. -Hank
Fay Howard wrote:
If you manage a ccTLD and wish to attend, please reply completing the template at the end of this email. Places are restricted to 26 and so initially we must limit participation to one person per TLD. Preference willbe given to CENTR participants should applications exceed 26.
Mmm. You should include "alternative" cccTLDs managers, too.
There is often talk of 'best practice' and even standardization of ccTLD rules and policies. With one of the key requirements of ccTLDs being autonomy and with the diversity of economies, legal systems and cultures, is there any room for harmonization?
It should. You should ask Artur Grzymala <artur at zoo.pl> and Veni Markovski <veni at isoc.bg> about their respective ccTLDs policies.
One of the roles of the established CENTR should be to coordinate or commission projects on behalf of members. Pooling of resources or sharing the cost of software developments for example would be a significant benefit of CENTR membership.
It would be for all Internet participants, too...
The IRSC (http://www.irsc.ah.net ) has already established a so-called "alternative" root servers network enabling virtually anybody to create his/her own TLD(s), with the agreement and the cooperation of the other IRSC members.
The IRSC is supported by ISPs, IPPs, etc. as well as end-users. We are currently serving an estimated share of 30% of global DNS traffic.
Some of our european members (see above) have created"alternative" cccTLDs, because of their ccTLDs politics or private monopols.
Best regards,
-- Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS http://www.ludexpress.com http://www.nicwine.net http://www.irsc.ah.net 3:213 WINE Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu n'gah Bill R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtagn
Hank Nussbacher -------- Logged at Fri Aug 28 09:15:15 MET DST 1998 ---------

In your previous mail you wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote: If RIPE CENTR includes "alternate" cccTLDs in its charter, .il will have to withdraw its support. idem for .fr Annie -------- Logged at Fri Aug 28 17:20:34 MET DST 1998 ---------

In your previous mail you wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote:
If RIPE CENTR includes "alternate" cccTLDs in its charter, .il will have to withdraw its support.
idem for .fr
Annie as per my message to Hank, I'd like to discuss this with you off the lists. Please feel free to contact me as I'd like to hear why .FR feels this way. -------- Logged at Fri Aug 28 17:21:18 MET DST 1998 ---------

At 18:21 1998-08-27 +0200, Fay Howard wrote:
************************** REGISTRATION FOR CENTR WORKSHOP
I wish to attend the CENTR workshop for Managers of TLD Rgistries
Name: Eva Fr?lich
Organization and country: .se, Sweden
Position held: Technical Manager
Any other Comments:
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_______________________________________________________________________ Eva Fr?lich e-mail: eva at nic-se.se NIC-SE, Box 5774, 114 87 Stockholm http://www.nic-se.se -------- Logged at Fri Aug 28 17:16:52 MET DST 1998 ---------
participants (7)
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Annie.Renard@nic.fr
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at@ah.net
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at@AH.NET
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eva@nic-se.se
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fay@ripe.net
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hank@ibm.net.il
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jc.praud@ludexpress.com