CENTR workshop for ccTLD Managers

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I wish to attend the CENTR workshop for Managers of TLD Rgistries
Name: Eugenie Staicut
Organization and country: Research Institute for Informatics, Romania
Position held: Data Communication Center Manager
Any other Comments: Technical Manager for .ro TLD
Eugenie Staicut -------- Logged at Mon Aug 31 10:51:53 MET DST 1998 ---------

Hi, I'm looking for help. PL administrator stole my domain. Where can I write about it? Which internet organization can help me? Regards, Artur Grzymala -------- Logged at Tue Sep 1 01:52:59 MET DST 1998 ---------

Artur Grzymala:
Hi,
I'm looking for help. PL administrator stole my domain. Where can I write about it? Which internet organization can help me?
First of all, a domainname is not your 'property', actually it's no-one's property. And please don't explain what you mean by PL administrator *stealing* *your* domain. if you have a legal agreement with him, then just sue him for breaking it. --w -------- Logged at Tue Sep 1 08:57:22 MET DST 1998 ---------

On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, W.Sylwestrzak at icm.edu.pl wrote:
if you have a legal agreement with him, then just sue him for breaking it.
Dear Wojtek, You know, that when I sue them, it takes a year or two. After all .pl domain is not a property of PL ccTLD administrator and they can not take money for domain registration and after a month give the same domain to someone else, only because that one is bigger. Regards, Artur Grzymala -------- Logged at Tue Sep 1 11:34:10 MET DST 1998 ---------

Artur Grzymala:
Dear Wojtek,
You know, that when I sue them, it takes a year or two. After all .pl domain is not a property of PL ccTLD administrator and they can not take money for domain registration and after a month give the same domain to someone else, only because that one is bigger.
Regards, Artur Grzymala
Again, a domain name, be it .pl or whatever else is noone's property. However I see a problem there if you have registered a domain with them, and then they delegated the same domain to someone else. If you have evidence of this, and they refuse to solve the problem to your satisfaction, I think you should complain to RIPE NCC, (or is CENTR operational yet ?) --w -------- Logged at Tue Sep 1 11:44:55 MET DST 1998 ---------

On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, W.Sylwestrzak at icm.edu.pl wrote:
Again, a domain name, be it .pl or whatever else is noone's property. Why PL ccTLD administrator acts like owner of .pl. They are selling, taking away, selling the same to someone else etc.
However I see a problem there if you have registered a domain with them, and then they delegated the same domain to someone else. If you have evidence of this, and they refuse to solve the problem to your satisfaction, I think you should complain to RIPE NCC, (or is CENTR operational yet ?) Yes, I've got bill for that domain. Can you, please, give an email address in RIPE NCC, where I can send email with description of my problems.
Regards, Artur Grzymala ps. Calkiem smieszna sytuacja. Siedze sobie jakies piec kilometrow od ICM. -------- Logged at Tue Sep 1 11:53:42 MET DST 1998 ---------

ps. Calkiem smieszna sytuacja. Siedze sobie jakies piec kilometrow od ICM.
Yes, funny situation - then better call him or visit in person :-) -------- Logged at Tue Sep 1 19:41:12 MET DST 1998 ---------

Artur Grzymala:
Again, a domain name, be it .pl or whatever else is noone's property. Why PL ccTLD administrator acts like owner of .pl. They are selling, taking away, selling the same to someone else etc.
no, they are not selling domains. they are just charging you for registration of your domainname. The problem with TLDs is that if you're unhappy with the fee they charge or the service you are getting, you have nowhere else to go :-(
However I see a problem there if you have registered a domain with them, and then they delegated the same domain to someone else. If you have evidence of this, and they refuse to solve the problem to your satisfaction, I think you should complain to RIPE NCC, (or is CENTR operational yet ?) Yes, I've got bill for that domain. Can you, please, give an email address in RIPE NCC, where I can send email with description of my problems.
You can mail anywhere ;-) with no guarantee that anyone will reply. try Fay Howard. (sorry Fay)
Regards, Artur Grzymala
ps. Calkiem smieszna sytuacja. Siedze sobie jakies piec kilometrow od ICM.
No, I'm not sitting at ICM. But you are right, we shouldn't bother tld-wg list with these discussions. --w -------- Logged at Wed Sep 2 08:51:34 MET DST 1998 ---------
participants (4)
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artur@zoo.pl
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edd@aic.net
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estaicut@linkguide.ici.ro
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wojsyl1@icm.edu.pl