.GP, .TM, .TV and .MQ to be Removed ?

At 12:13 PM 9/14/98 +0100, Berislav Todorovic wrote:
I also note that Jon Postel wants to see .TV and .TM removed from the root zone, but NSI/NSF prevented that. Perhaps the other RSCs around the world should honor the IANA request.
I'd be particularly interested in knowing the WWTLD's position on this. Do we follow IANA directive and remove .TV, .TM or do we go with NSI polict and leave them there.
First off, let's see what RFC 1591 says about that:
2) Country Codes
The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country.
.FX is the country code for Metropolitan France. This is not a country. Neither is Tuvala any more. Or the Cocos Islands (.CC). -- "I think it is important to understand that distribution of authority is better than dictatorship, and that the governance of TLDs and domains in general should be distributed rather than centralized." - Paul Mockapetris -------- Logged at Mon Sep 14 15:39:33 MET DST 1998 ---------

At 14:50 1998-09-14 , Richard J. Sexton wrote:
.FX is the country code for Metropolitan France. This is not a country. Neither is Tuvala any more. Or the Cocos Islands (.CC).
FYI: Faroe Islands (.fo) and Greenland (.gl) are parts of Denmark (.dk) and they have _never_ been independant countries. Why did they get their own ccTLD in the first place? /Hakan -------- Logged at Mon Sep 14 16:00:45 MET DST 1998 ---------

On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Hakan Hansson wrote:
FYI: Faroe Islands (.fo) and Greenland (.gl) are parts of Denmark (.dk) and they have _never_ been independant countries. Why did they get their own ccTLD in the first place?
Hakan, For starters, review RFC 1591. You can find copies of the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency's list of country codes at: http://www.iana.org/country-codes.txt ftp://ftp.apnic.net/apnic/docs/iso-3166.txt ftp://ftp.ripe.net/iso3166-countrycodes And you can refer to the ISO's site for a reference to the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency. http://www.iso.ch/infoe/agency/3166-1.htm "A number of International Standards developed by ISO technical committees require, with a view to their updating or implementation, a competent body which has the requisite infrastructure for ensuring the effective use of these international agreements. These bodies are designated by ISO to serve as maintenance agencies or registration authorities." Steve Huter -------- Logged at Mon Sep 14 20:45:05 MET DST 1998 ---------

Richard J. Sexton wrote:
At 12:13 PM 9/14/98 +0100, Berislav Todorovic wrote:
I also note that Jon Postel wants to see .TV and .TM removed from the root zone, but NSI/NSF prevented that. Perhaps the other RSCs around the world should honor the IANA request.
I'd be particularly interested in knowing the WWTLD's position on this. Do we follow IANA directive and remove .TV, .TM or do we go with NSI polict and leave them there.
First off, let's see what RFC 1591 says about that:
2) Country Codes
The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country.
.FX is the country code for Metropolitan France. This is not a country. Neither is Tuvala any more. Or the Cocos Islands (.CC).
It seems to problem is more in ISO than in DNS... If France isn't happy with ccCodes, it should probably ask ISO for changes. If they are accepted, ccTLDs can be updated accordingly. Then, it will become a DNS issue... This situation is common for many countries with oversea territories. -- Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS http://www.ludexpress.com http://www.nicwine.net http://www.irsc.ah.net 3:213 WINE Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu n'gah Bill R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtagn -------- Logged at Mon Sep 14 16:20:09 MET DST 1998 ---------

On Mon, Sep 14, 1998 at 04:03:03PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote:
Richard J. Sexton wrote:
.FX is the country code for Metropolitan France. This is not a country. Neither is Tuvala any more. Or the Cocos Islands (.CC). It seems to problem is more in ISO than in DNS... If France isn't happy with ccCodes, it should probably ask ISO for changes. If they are accepted, ccTLDs can be updated accordingly. Then, it will become a DNS issue... This situation is common for many countries with oversea territories. But the People's Republic of China should be very happy with ccTLDs, because in ISO 3166 there is
TW TWN 158 TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA although Taiwan is not her territory, and should be called ZH ZHO 158 ZHONGHUA, REPUBLIC OF -- Wei-Lun Chao -- -------- Logged at Mon Sep 14 16:30:03 MET DST 1998 ---------

W.L.Chao ;/1)-[ wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 1998 at 04:03:03PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote:
Richard J. Sexton wrote:
.FX is the country code for Metropolitan France. This is not a country. Neither is Tuvala any more. Or the Cocos Islands (.CC). It seems to problem is more in ISO than in DNS... If France isn't happy with ccCodes, it should probably ask ISO for changes. If they are accepted, ccTLDs can be updated accordingly. Then, it will become a DNS issue... This situation is common for many countries with oversea territories. But the People's Republic of China should be very happy with ccTLDs, because in ISO 3166 there is
TW TWN 158 TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA
although Taiwan is not her territory, and should be called
ZH ZHO 158 ZHONGHUA, REPUBLIC OF
That's, too, is an ISO problem (and United Nation's). Internet can help you communicate on that. Including creating and managing ZHO TLD :o) -- Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS http://www.ludexpress.com http://www.nicwine.net http://www.irsc.ah.net 3:213 WINE Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu n'gah Bill R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtagn -------- Logged at Tue Sep 15 00:15:18 MET DST 1998 ---------
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