OK, Randy, I have some bad news for an irrelevant fantasy there are a lot of people dreaming ... and it grows - every day.
cool. then use your other email address on all internet subscriptions and mail.
Which address? One I'm not so well known at? I'll tell you what, how about you use your mothers phone number as your contact number - it's still a valid number isn't it? I use a domain name I have recognision for and that which best represents what I'm doing. As I don't have an MTA that can change my address according to the list/person I'm posting to, I use a common address and worry about filtering when my MTA receives the email. I may choose in the future to use a Domain Name under another TLD, but right now I don't really have one that is suitable to my most common use.
I just wonder at what stage some peopel are going to realise the Internet is a global medium with a lot of free range scope and not a DO IT MY WAY OR IT WON"T WORK BECAUSE I SAY SO medium.
can't speak for others, but for me it was probably a decade or two before you discovered the net. yes, i have been on the net for a wee bit. same goes for many of the other folk for whom you seem to hold such paranoia.
Can't speak for others and you can't speak for me. Randy, I can't clai, to have been around as long as you, I have been told a little of your history and your been there stories. But I can say I've been around Techology and R&D at Chip level since 1979. That at least accounts for something. My first IP network was set up in 1981 and I was one of the first six people to being internet traffic into Australia - in fact I did it by Satallite at the time. So I've been around. And I've seen probably as much as you have where Internet as a commercial product in it's own right, has come from.
the actual folk who cooperatively advance the network call the process "rough consensus and running code." being an engineer (well part time at
Sure, rough consenesus is certainly what AURSC and IRSC are about. All the members and people using RSCs are in 100% guaranteed consensus. It's a little better than what we have elsewhere huh?
least) i judge by results.
Yes so do I. If people use a resource, and they continue to uuse a resource, and they tell others about a resource, then somehting must be good.
those results are allowing you to tell us about your little fantasy.
It's not a Fantasy. See you're using a word from the English lanugage very incorrectly. A fantasy is a ficticious story that has not resembelance to life itself. AURSC and IRSC are in no way fantasies because they exist, work and are growing.
you're welcome. but don't expect grownups to take you seriously.
Randy, trying to be quite pretencious doesn't work with me. I'd say your no more grown up than any other person. But in sight of this, there is one problem. PEOPLE who would no doubt qualify as "grown ups" in your book are in fact taking thinsg very seriously or there would be no question.
Current Servers who have requested data from AURSC that we answered Up to Fri Aug 28 23:59:02 1998 on rs2.au.rsc
i would append the analogous one for the real internet, but sending many tens of megabytes of data in email is generally not appreciated, especially as there are folk with expensive connectivity on this list.
Sure, and can you also send me the stats for the number of people running Microsoft Internet Information Server please. Your point is what? Randy whilst your collecting stats for me can you also tell me how many Holden Commodroes were sold in Australia at the time the Model T Ford was on sale. I suppose this will be difficult, but i'ts a statement of evolution and evoloution will continue. BTW, do you have a pet Taranasourus Rex?
as fidonet was heavily used in africa, i was involved there for some years,
And yes, I was very heavily involed in Fidone tin Australia from around 1988, way after I was already carrying Internet traffic for users in Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra.
gating it to/from (what became) the internet.
Yes, did the same. Nothing new there. I wrote the code myself on a 286 platform using DOS and Arcnet originally, I even wrote the TCP/IP and UDP layers for DOS and Arcnet themselves as there was nothing available that didn't cost thousands of dollars.
the same silliness about who 'controlled' the namespace occurred there.
Yes it did and most people in the commercial world who wanted results ignored it and continued to develope and create.
the demagogues of democracy never got anywhere except creating a lot of loud noise and giving an exceedingly vocal very small minority with too much time on their hands something to do.
Sounds like ... I won't say.
and those folk turned out to be far less democratic than the worst of the 'old guard', having a great time stabbing each other in the back etc. history has this thing about repeating itself.
No not quite. Not repeating yet. This time round commercial value is at stake and there are people who real cash and concerns involved. It certainly wasn't costing us anything ten years ago in reality other than the cost of the links which were used by our commercial company during the AU and USA day periods, the rest of the time we flooded it with Fidonet and Internet Transactions. This time round, people want a trusting resource or a resource they can be sure wn't change the course of their business plans. That's only fair as the Internet is still based on COOPERATION and to get cooperation from competitors requires a real talent and we're seeing exactly that - it doesn't work at the IANA/NSI/etc level. AURSC/IRSC and the other RSC's are cooperative groups of people with interests at the next level, so no one interest party can control the environment - you are welcome to try. You can delay it and try and sabotage it, but that ultimately won't do you any good. People who make up the RSC's and the TLD holders (all TLD's) are always welcome because the whole thing is about THEIR interests and how to make it all work for everyone. No Cooperation - No Global Internet. We might as well all pull our WAN polugs tonight ... -------- Logged at Mon Aug 31 10:52:31 MET DST 1998 ---------