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RFC 1591 and the IDNB
by JimFleming＠unety.net 09 Jun '98

09 Jun '98

According to the NEW IANA's web site, "all TLD administrators"[1] are required to follow RFC 1591. The link to RFC 1591 points to a document that describes the "Internet DNS Names Review Board (IDNB)"[2]. Can anyone answer the following questions ? 1. Who is on the IDNB ? 2. Where can the policies and proceedings of the IDNB be found ? 3. What has been the history of the IDNB's rulings ? Thanks, Jim Fleming [1] @@@@ http://www.iana.org/cctld.html "It is important that all TLD administrators follow the guidelines of RFC 1591. TLD administrators should treat this stewardship responsibility as a service to the global Internet community." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ [2] @@@@ http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1591.txt "The Internet DNS Names Review Board (IDNB), a committee established by the IANA, will act as a review panel for cases in which the parties can not reach agreement among themselves. The IDNB's decisions will be binding." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://207.32.159.1 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Tue Jun 9 13:41:51 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Policies...must be available for public inspection
by JimFleming＠unety.net 09 Jun '98

09 Jun '98

Do all of the so-called country code TLDs conform to this policy ? @@@@ http://www.iana.org/cctld-news1.html "2. Policy and Procedures" "The policies and procedures for the use of each contry code must be available for public inspection. Generally these are posted on web pages or made available for file transfer." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://207.32.159.1 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Tue Jun 9 13:26:22 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Who will be on the IANA Inc. "board"...??
by JimFleming＠unety.net 08 Jun '98

08 Jun '98

On Monday, June 08, 1998 11:45 AM, Jeff Williams[SMTP:jwkckid1 at IX.NETCOM.COM] wrote: <snip> @ @ We don't completely agree here. Rather let the Open Market Place @determine who is a board member by popular vote. @ Jeff, I think that people close to the IANA Inc. development have this under control. You might want to stay tuned to the following web page(s) for more information. <http://www.iana.org/aboutiana.html> As for the CEO of the new IANA Inc., I would remind you that the Registry Industry is a new industry. Many of the people in the industry are moving from one organization to another. With the multi-level-marketing (MLM) structure shown below, I would think that significant advancements will start happening inside of the organization to preserve continuity. IANA ARIN RIPE APNIC Note that ARIN is a notch "above" RIPE and APNIC because ARIN currently has control over the .ARPA TLD and all of the IN-ADDR.ARPA zone. I have a feeling that this will be moved to the new IANA Inc. and then ARIN will be at the same level as RIPE and APNIC. At the moment APNIC is being moved to Australia. One of the key people from RIPE is moving there to help run APNIC. I would not be surprised if other key people from RIPE do not transfer within the organizations above to take advantage of career opportunities. Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://207.32.159.1 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Tue Jun 9 13:09:11 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Follow the money...
by JimFleming＠unety.net 07 Jun '98

07 Jun '98

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/6_5_98dns.htm The White Paper is out, as predicted, the U.S. Government *punted* the ball. They should have never picked up the ball if they did not intend to do anything useful with it. About all they have done is delayed the market place for a year, allowed the NSF to slip out the back door (while the Director of the NSF moves to the White House), and wasted everyone's time and money, including U.S. taxpayers that paid to fly these people around the world. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to see that you will have no ability to influence the new IANA Inc. If you think you do, then I suggest you follow the leads below and I wish you the best of luck. Just remember, follow the money...it tells the whole story. Oh, and by the way...I suggest that you add up how much each of the various people have been paid since 1995 to help shape Internet Governance and who they have been paid by... that tells the whole story...look at the salaries of these "non-profit" prophets. I will continue to lead VOLUNTEERS in the creation of 8 new Top Level Domains. They will be named, G0, G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, and G7. Second-level names below each of those will be S0, S1, S2, ..., S254, S255. We will continue to work with the various RSCs to get these 8 TLDs listed. Also we will work with the Grass Roots people to get them listed. Hopefully, the entire effort will be 100% volunteers. In other words, this will truely be non-profit because it will be non-revenue and spear-headed by people who do not earn their living doing this volunteer work, that only occurs on the Internet, and not in smoke-filled rooms in Washington, D.C. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt I wish everyone luck that wants to follow the money. It is a natural human attraction and will provide you with a nice life at the expense of others. I suggest that people refer all of those interested in huge profits and multi-level marketing opportunities to the new private IANA Inc. The pyramid continues to be built using U.S. taxpayers money. As someone once told me, if you "play ball" with them, they will make you a millionaire. They are proud of the millionaires they have created and will no doubt be now turning them out in volume with the U.S. Government's blessing....all non-profit (non-tax) of course... Jim Fleming P.S. The NSF will be helping to start the entire mess all over again. If you want to get in on the ground floor of their next MLM adventure, check out... http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1998/nsf98121/nsf98121.htm @@@@@@ IANA Inc. leads to follow the money... @@@@@@@@@ > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:30:09 -0500 > To: ip-sub-1 at majordomo.pobox.com > From: Dave Farber <farber at cis.upenn.edu> > Subject: IP: itag announcement > > The Chair of the Internet Architecture Board (IAB), Brian Carpenter, > and the Director of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), > Jon Postel, jointly announce the formation of the "IANA Transition > Advisors Group" (ITAG). > > The ITAG will serve as a set of senior advisors to the IANA during the > transition to a new organization with formal status as a non-profit > corporation with a board of directors. This group will cease to exist > when the board of directors of the new organization has its first > meeting. The members of the ITAG have declared themselves as not > candidates for the initial IANA board. > > The ITAG will consist of 6 members. The initial members(*) are: > > Randy Bush - Verio > Brian Carpenter - IBM UK > Dave Farber - U Penn > Geoff Huston - Telstra > John Klensin - MCI > Steve Wolff - Cisco > > * organization affiliation for identification purposes only. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ @@@@@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/ "WELCOME TO THE ASPEN INSTITUTE" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/dir/current/releases/pr2298.html "DAVID R. JOHNSON NAMED DIRECTOR OF THE ASPEN INSTITUTE INTERNET POLICY PROJECT" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/dir/polpro/CSP/C&S1.html Personnel Charles M. Firestone, Director Amy Korzick Garmer, Assistant Director Reed Hundt, Chair, Forum on Communications and Society David Johnson, Director, Aspen Institute Internet Policy Project Barbara Bimonte, Program Associate, IIS and Seminars Gia Nolan, Program Manager Elizabeth Golder, Program Coordinator Patricia Kirsch, Program Coordinator @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/dir/polpro/CSP/Bios/RHbio.html Reed E. Hundt Chair, Forum on Communications and Society Communications and Society Program "Reed Hundt served as chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) from 1993-1997." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/dir/polpro/CSP/IPF/projdesc.html "Aspen Institute Internet Policy Project" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/Johnson.htm On April 28, 1998 at 9:30am, David R. Johnson, David W. Maher and Roger Cochetti met with Ira Magaziner, Gregory Chang and Karen Rose and presented the attached document, which was submitted by David Johnson and on behalf of David J. Farber in their individual capacities. drj david.johnson at counsel.com" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://www.ilpf.org/confer/list.htm February 27, 1998 Aspen, Colorado, USA Aspen Institute Conference on the Internet A presentation entitled "Self Governance in Cyberspace: Domain Names Case Study" will be given by Roger Cochetti, Program Director - Policy & Business Planning IBM Internet Division @@@@@@@@@@@@@ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://207.32.159.1 IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Sun Jun 7 08:12:06 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Follow the money...
by JimFleming＠unety.net 07 Jun '98

07 Jun '98

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/6_5_98dns.htm The White Paper is out, as predicted, the U.S. Government *punted* the ball. They should have never picked up the ball if they did not intend to do anything useful with it. About all they have done is delayed the market place for a year, allowed the NSF to slip out the back door (while the Director of the NSF moves to the White House), and wasted everyone's time and money, including U.S. taxpayers that paid to fly these people around the world. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to see that you will have no ability to influence the new IANA Inc. If you think you do, then I suggest you follow the leads below and I wish you the best of luck. Just remember, follow the money...it tells the whole story. Oh, and by the way...I suggest that you add up how much each of the various people have been paid since 1995 to help shape Internet Governance and who they have been paid by... that tells the whole story...look at the salaries of these "non-profit" prophets. I will continue to lead VOLUNTEERS in the creation of 8 new Top Level Domains. They will be named, G0, G1, G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, and G7. Second-level names below each of those will be S0, S1, S2, ..., S254, S255. We will continue to work with the various RSCs to get these 8 TLDs listed. Also we will work with the Grass Roots people to get them listed. Hopefully, the entire effort will be 100% volunteers. In other words, this will truely be non-profit because it will be non-revenue and spear-headed by people who do not earn their living doing this volunteer work, that only occurs on the Internet, and not in smoke-filled rooms in Washington, D.C. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt I wish everyone luck that wants to follow the money. It is a natural human attraction and will provide you with a nice life at the expense of others. I suggest that people refer all of those interested in huge profits and multi-level marketing opportunities to the new private IANA Inc. The pyramid continues to be built using U.S. taxpayers money. As someone once told me, if you "play ball" with them, they will make you a millionaire. They are proud of the millionaires they have created and will no doubt be now turning them out in volume with the U.S. Government's blessing....all non-profit (non-tax) of course... Jim Fleming P.S. The NSF will be helping to start the entire mess all over again. If you want to get in on the ground floor of their next MLM adventure, check out... http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1998/nsf98121/nsf98121.htm @@@@@@ IANA Inc. leads to follow the money... @@@@@@@@@ > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:30:09 -0500 > To: ip-sub-1 at majordomo.pobox.com > From: Dave Farber <farber at cis.upenn.edu> > Subject: IP: itag announcement > > The Chair of the Internet Architecture Board (IAB), Brian Carpenter, > and the Director of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), > Jon Postel, jointly announce the formation of the "IANA Transition > Advisors Group" (ITAG). > > The ITAG will serve as a set of senior advisors to the IANA during the > transition to a new organization with formal status as a non-profit > corporation with a board of directors. This group will cease to exist > when the board of directors of the new organization has its first > meeting. The members of the ITAG have declared themselves as not > candidates for the initial IANA board. > > The ITAG will consist of 6 members. The initial members(*) are: > > Randy Bush - Verio > Brian Carpenter - IBM UK > Dave Farber - U Penn > Geoff Huston - Telstra > John Klensin - MCI > Steve Wolff - Cisco > > * organization affiliation for identification purposes only. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ @@@@@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/ "WELCOME TO THE ASPEN INSTITUTE" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/dir/current/releases/pr2298.html "DAVID R. JOHNSON NAMED DIRECTOR OF THE ASPEN INSTITUTE INTERNET POLICY PROJECT" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/dir/polpro/CSP/C&S1.html Personnel Charles M. Firestone, Director Amy Korzick Garmer, Assistant Director Reed Hundt, Chair, Forum on Communications and Society David Johnson, Director, Aspen Institute Internet Policy Project Barbara Bimonte, Program Associate, IIS and Seminars Gia Nolan, Program Manager Elizabeth Golder, Program Coordinator Patricia Kirsch, Program Coordinator @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/dir/polpro/CSP/Bios/RHbio.html Reed E. Hundt Chair, Forum on Communications and Society Communications and Society Program "Reed Hundt served as chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) from 1993-1997." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ http://www.aspeninst.org/dir/polpro/CSP/IPF/projdesc.html "Aspen Institute Internet Policy Project" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/Johnson.htm On April 28, 1998 at 9:30am, David R. Johnson, David W. Maher and Roger Cochetti met with Ira Magaziner, Gregory Chang and Karen Rose and presented the attached document, which was submitted by David Johnson and on behalf of David J. Farber in their individual capacities. drj david.johnson at counsel.com" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://www.ilpf.org/confer/list.htm February 27, 1998 Aspen, Colorado, USA Aspen Institute Conference on the Internet A presentation entitled "Self Governance in Cyberspace: Domain Names Case Study" will be given by Roger Cochetti, Program Director - Policy & Business Planning IBM Internet Division @@@@@@@@@@@@@ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://207.32.159.1 IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Mon Jun 8 14:20:22 MET DST 1998 ---------

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US Government White Paper Published
by Daniel.Karrenberg＠ripe.net 05 Jun '98

05 Jun '98

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/6_5_98dns.htm -------- Logged at Sun Jun 7 07:56:09 MET DST 1998 ---------

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White Paper - Friday, June 5, 10:00 a.m.
by JimFleming＠unety.net 04 Jun '98

04 Jun '98

@@@ http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/press/dns604.htm COMMERCE DEPARTMENT TO RELEASE POLICY STATEMENT ON THE INTERNET DOMAIN NAME SYSTEM Policy Statement Will Lay Out Administration Policy on Management of Internet Names and Addresses WHAT: Becky Burr, associate administrator, National Telecommunications and Information Administration's Office of International Affairs, will hold a press conference to release a Policy Statement on the Internet Domain Name System (DNS) that will lay out the Clinton Administration's policy for the transition of DNS functions to the private sector. WHEN Friday, June 5, 10:00 a.m. WHERE: U.S. Department of Commerce, Washington, DC Room 4830 (Use Entrance on 14th Street, NW) BACKGROUND: This policy statement is the culmination of a year long effort to develop a plan for the Federal government to phase out its management of the Internet Domain Name System. The Commerce Department has sought comment in two separate public notices on this issue. The notices and the public comments are available on the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) website at http://www.ntia.doc.gov. The Commerce Department's NTIA serves as the prinicipal adviser to the President, Vice President, and Secretary of Commerce on domestic and international communications and information issues. @@@@@@@@@@ -------- Logged at Fri Jun 5 17:00:28 MET DST 1998 ---------

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RIPE Meeting Attendees
by JimFleming＠unety.net 28 May '98

28 May '98

RIPE finally published an updated list of the attendees at the recent meeting in Stockholm, Sweden. Here is the list sorted by TLD. As many people know, RIPE has been expanding into the TLD coordination business. In the past, they have focused on IPv4 allocations which some people tried to mislead the U.S. Government into thinking have nothing to do with domain names. People working on "neighbor nets" might want to note the people below for the various TLDs. Many of these people are IPv4 address-oriented people, yet they will clearly have to get into the TLD business as the Registry Industry matures. Likewise, people in the TLD Registry Industry will likely want to become more familiar with the IP address sales and leasing businesses. The people below may be able to help in that area. @@@ http://www.ripe.net/meetings/ripe/ripe-30/attend.html ?? Antonio Marquez Rediris AT Christian Panigl VUCC/ACOnet AT Gerhard Winkler VUCC / ACOnet AT Herbert Schoefbaenker Council Systems AT Wilfried Woeber UniVie - ACOnet BE Igor Sportmans Belgacom BE Pascal Delmoitie BELNET BE Patrick De Groote Unisource Belgium BE Stefano Previdi cisco Systems CH Felix Kugler SWITCH CH Marcel Schneider SWITCH CH Roger Gottsponer SWITCH CH ivan communod digital CM Denis Akam INTELCAM CM Jean Ernest Bikoe INTELCAM CM Raphael Tientcheu INTELCAM CZ Ingrid Ledererova InWay, a.s. CZ Petr Kral InWay, a.s. DE Andrea Kolek Deutsche Telekom AG DE Andreas Schachtner eco e.V. DE Anton Zur Evolution Systems DE Bernhard Kroenung regio[.NET] GmbH DE Berthold Paffrath Deutsche Telekom AG DE Bettina Kauth DFN-NOC DE Carsten Schiefner TCP/IP GmbH - Contrib.Net DE Christian Braun DENIC DE Christoph Gaertner o.tel.o communications DE David Pratt VIAG Interkom DE Dhouha Houssi DENIC DE Gerd Dopjans o.tel.o communications GmbH & Co DE Gert Doering SpaceNet DE Greg Cipollone Twinwave GmbH DE Ingo Stampe mediaWays DE Jan Czmok IPF.NET Service Provider GmbH DE Joachim Schmitz America Online Inc DE Jonas Luster easynet DV GmbH DE Kai Siering IS Internet Services GmbH & Co DE Klaus Landefeld Nacamar Group PLC DE Ludger Bornhorst Deutsche Telekom DE Martin Sieler Fraunhofer IIS-A DE Michael Beckmann POP Point of Presence DE Michael Froelich ECRC Network Services GmbH DE Michael van Elst Xlink Internet Consulting GmbH DE Oliver Doll UUNET Deutschland GmbH DE Peter Juffernholz Teleglobe GmbH DE Ruediger Kladt IPF.NET DE Ruediger Volk Deutsche Telekom AG DE S. Petra Zeidler Xlink Internet Service GmbH DE Stefan Maly MultiNET Services DE Thomas Trede Nacamar DE Volkmar Juergens POP Point of Presence DE Wolfgang Tremmel Xlink DE Wolfram Becker ECRC Network Services GmbH DK Frode Greisen Ebone DK Morten Christensen Tele Danmark Internet DK Sean Doran Ebone A/S DK Torben Bajlum Tele Danmark ES Daniel Diaz RedIRIS ES Javier Gonzalez Telefonica Transmision de Datos ES Manuel Garcia Acceso Sistemas de Informacion, s.a. EU Ambrose Magee RIPE NCC EU Bettina Schroeder RIPE NCC EU Chris Fletcher RIPE NCC EU Daniel Karrenberg RIPE NCC EU Eamonn McGuinness RIPE NCC EU Fay Howard RIPE NCC EU Graca Carvalho Cisco Systems Europe EU Henk Uijterwaal RIPE NCC EU James Aldridge EUnet EU Joao Damas RIPE NCC EU John Crain RIPE NCC EU Lee Wilmot RIPE NCC EU Maldwyn Morris RIPE NCC EU Mandy Jonkers RIPE NCC EU Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC EU Monica Cortes RIPE NCC EU Naomi de Bruyn RIPE NCC EU Paula Caslav RIPE NCC EU Pepa Tejedor RIPE NCC EU Sabrina Waschke RIPE NCC FI Arttu Laine EUnet Finland Oy FI Jorma Mellin Telia Finland Ltd FI Juha Oinonen CSC/FUNET FI Juha Paananen Telia Finland Oy FI Kristian Rastas Sonera Corporation FI Marko Memonen CSC-Tieteellinen Laskenta Oy FI Patrik Andersin Clinet Oy FI Petteri Helin Clinet Oy FI Sami Koskinen Clinet Oy FI Vesa Ruokonen Telia Finland Oy FR Alexandre Provost Groupe Ecritel France FR Annie Renard AFNIC (NIC France) FR Arnaud Lejeune Graphnet FR Beatrice Faure Groupe Ecritel France FR Christophe Cachat CEGETEL ENTREPRISES FR Daniele Bovio America Online, Inc. FR Etienne Ruch Siris FR Francis Dupont GIE DYADE FR Lionel GARENNE CEGETEL Entreprises FR Marc PICHON CEGETEL Entreprises FR Michael Hallgren Graphnet FR Nelly Denise SIRIS FR Paul Rolland Oleane FR Sylvain Kouda Siris GB Asquith Bonaparte JIPS NOSC (ULCC) GB Duncan Rogerson TEN-34 NOC GB Kevin Hoadley JANET GB Richard Sloan UUNET UK GR Manolis Chatzakis ICS-FORTH GR HU Attila Nyari Westel900 GSM. Mobile Teleco. HU Balazs Martos Hungarnet HU Janos Zsako BankNet IE Mike Norris HEAnet IS Marius Olafsson INTIS IT Andrea Mattasoglio CILEA IT Antonio-Blasco Bonito University of Pisa IT Daniele Vannozzi CNR IT Gian Luca Mattu Telecom Italia SpA IT Stefano Suin University of Pisa IT Vittore Casarosa CNR - IAT LU Thierry Coutelier Entreprise des P&T NL Armand Verstappen Demon Internet NL Boudewijn Nederkoorn SURFnet NL Diederik van Diggelen AT&T-Unisource NL Erik Lohr IBM Global Services NL Erwin d' Hont Demon Internet NL Hans van Duijne AT&T-Unisource NL Hans van der Molen AT&T-Unisource NL John Martin TERENA NL Marian Kruydenhof Unisource Business Networks b.v. NL Rob Blokzijl RIPE/NIKHEF NL Ronald van der Pol SURFnet NL Thomas Telkamp AT&T-Unisource NL henk smit cisco systems NO Hans Petter Holen SOL System AS NO Havard Eidnes UNINETT/NORDUnet NO Hogne Solvoll Telenor Nextel NO Steinar Grotterod Telia Registry Norge NZ Patrick O'Brien Domainz -- The New Zealand Internet Registry Ltd PL Konrad Plich TP S.A. - CST PL Maciej Kozlowski NASK PL Miroslaw Luc Research and Academic Network in Poland PL Wojtek Malek TP S.A. - CST PL Wojtek Sylwestrzak ICM PT Armando Domingues FCCN PT Rui Azevedo Matos Telepac RU Andrew Romanov RIPN RU Maria Stepanova RIPN SE Anders Hedlund Telia AB SE Anders Honkamaa pi.se AB SE Andreas Haggander Telia Network Services SE Anna Skyllberg Telia AB SE Bjorn Carlsson EBONE inc SE Carl Hamacher Telenordia SE Carl Moberg Telia Network Services SE Catherine Exelby FCI Telecommunications Corporation SE David Kvarnberg pi.se AB SE Dennis Wennstrvm Telenordia SE Eden Akhavi FCI Telecommunications Corporation SE Eric Ostberg Telenordia AB SE Eva Froelich NIC-SE SE Fredrik Nyman SwipNet SE Fredrik Widell Global One SE Gabrielle Eklund pi.se AB SE Gunilla Malmqvist Telenordia AB SE Gunnar Lindberg Chalmers University of Technology SE Hakan Hansson Telia Network Services SE Hans Niklasson SwipNet SE Helen Dagerus SwipNET SE Jan Guldborg Ebone Inc. SE Jorgen Larsson Telia AB Sektor Datakom SE Klara Rank pi.se AB SE Kurt Erik Lindqvist EUnet Sverige AB SE Lotta Flyman Telia Network Services SE Madeleine Gustafsson Telenordia AB SE Magnus Ahltorp Aladdin SE Michael Skutnabba Telenordia AB SE Mikael Eriksson KTH/IT SE Nisse Steen SwipNet SE Ola Winberg FMV SE Ove Landberg Swedish Armed Forces SE Patric Ostman Global One SE Per Lundberg Telecom Finland AB, SONERA AB SE Per-Olof Haettner FMV SE Peter Lothberg Stupi AB SE Peter Nilsson Global One SE Pontus Ekman pi.se AB SE Ragnar Lvnn Telenordia SE Rikard Hoglund Telia Network Services SE Sofia Hymnelius Telia AB SE Tomas Ahlstrvm Telia Ab SE Tomi Kortelainen KTH/IT SE Uno Staver FMV SE stockman bernhard Telianet SI Avgust Jauk ARNES SI Barbara Povse Golob ARNES SK Lubos Elias SANET SK Marian Durkovic CVTSTU/SANET SK Miroslav Vallo TELENOR Slovakia UA Alexander Milutin INFOCOM UA Yuri Demchenko Global Ukraine JV UK Anthony Turner Netcom UK Ltd. UK Darren Byrne Demon Internet Ltd. UK Darren Taylor Demon Internet Ltd. UK Denesh Bhabuta Demon Internet Ltd. UK Dr William Black Nominet UK UK Elliott Atkins REDNET Limited UK Geoffrey Sisson Nominet UK UK Ivan Beveridge Demon Internet Ltd. UK Keith Mitchell LINX UK Michael Behringer DANTE UK Paul Thornton LINX UK Peter Emptage Cisco Systems UK Richard Almeida Internet Network Services UK Sam Critchley UUNET UK Stephen Burley UUNET UK Steve Foster Global High Street Ltd US Carl Malamud Internet Multicasting Service US Craig Labovitz Merit Network, Inc. US David Kessens ISI US Dawn Martin ARIN US Deibler Danielle L. DIGEX, Incorporated US Dorian Kim Verio US Ed Kern DIGEX US Jake Khuon Merit Network, Inc. US Kim Hubbard ARIN US Mark McFadden Commercial Internet eXchange US Randy Bush Verio, Inc. US Robert C. Noland III UUNET Technologies US Robert Hinden Nokia US Tom Spindler Merit Network, Inc. US rekhter yakov Sisco systems @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ -------- Logged at Tue Jun 2 11:02:03 MET DST 1998 ---------

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DNS: The "Common Sense Concept"
by JimFleming＠unety.net 27 May '98

27 May '98

On Wednesday, May 27, 1998 12:19 AM, Jean-Christophe Praud[SMTP:jc.praud at ludexpress.com] wrote: @We are beginning to work similarly on the G3 (around Europe) Zone, with @AURSC. @ @Whoever "owns" a TLD in this zone can contact us at @dnsmaster at nicwine.net @for gTLDs implementation. @ @Best regards, @ @--- @Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS @NicWine : http://www.nicwine.net @ <snip> I am sure all of the fine people in the G3 region will do a great job and will introduce new and creative approaches to Internet G-overnance. One thing to look out for are people that want to add new TLDs. Whatever systems you decide upon should be inclusive and should welcome people. Hopefully, some of the neighbor net approaches will help to do this. A quick check of the list shows that your TLD (.WINE) is located between Denmark (.DK) and Morocco (.MA). You might want to focus on those two TLDs to create your "neighborhood". http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt 3:210 DK (DENMARK) <--- ??? 3:211 MLT (MALTA) 3:212 VIDEO 3:213 WINE <------------------Jean-Christophe Praud 3:214 RAILWAY 3:215 BALLOON 3:216 SVK (SLOVAKIA-(Slovak-Republic)) 3:217 DNK (DENMARK) 3:218 GRC (GREECE) 3:219 INFO <---- Simon Higgs ? 3:220 PUNK <----------------- ISP/C Member ??? 3:221 SVN (SLOVENIA) 3:222 FLAT 3:223 STOCKHOLM 3:224 MA (MOROCCO) <---- ??? If you find that the names in your neighbor-net are not in use then they can be relabeled with new TLDs. You might want to label the entries that you know are available with a TXT record of "ALIAS:" in the DNS entries to show there is no label assigned. There once was an ISP/C board member that expressed an interest in .PUNK. His name was Chris ?. I think he changed his name and I lost track of him. Charles Smith might be able to help you locate him. As for some of the other TLDs in the neighbor net above, you might want to check with Simon Higgs on .INFO, that may be one he has running. Good luck to everyone in G3. Keep us posted with changes and as soon as your G3 TLD name servers are up we can query them to get the latest who's who in G3 info. Keep up the good work... - Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.net/IPv8 IPv8 - Designed for the Rest of the Human Race AM Radio Stations ---> http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Wed May 27 09:24:55 MET DST 1998 ---------

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DNS: The "Common Sense Concept"
by jc.praud＠ludexpress.com 27 May '98

27 May '98

We are beginning to work similarly on the G3 (around Europe) Zone, with AURSC. Whoever "owns" a TLD in this zone can contact us at dnsmaster at nicwine.net for gTLDs implementation. Best regards, --- Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS NicWine : http://www.nicwine.net Jim Fleming wrote: > > > In my opinion, this concept is the right one and should be labeled the > "Common Sense Concept" <http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/paine/> > as opposed to some replacement for a particular group's proposal. > The Common Sense Concept is compatible with the approach that I > have been suggesting for a long time. Here are the major components > that I feel are needed to make it work: > > 1. A Structured Root Built Around TLDs > 2. A 2+2+4 Trustee Structure to Provide Stewardship for the TLDs > 3. Neighbor Net Strategies of Self-Governance > > The following data file is used to illustrate the examples: > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt > -------- Logged at Wed May 27 08:00:33 MET DST 1998 ---------

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