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.MALL TLD Application
by JimFleming＠unety.net 16 Jun '98

16 Jun '98

0a. (N)ew (M)odify (D)elete....: New 0b. Auth Scheme................: 0c. Auth Info..................: 1. Comments...................: Application for Top Level Domain 2. Complete Domain Name.......: .MALL Organization Using Domain Name 3a. Organization Name..........: Unir Corporation 3b. Street Address.............: One Naperville Plaza 3c. City.......................: Naperville 3d. State......................: IL 3e. Postal Code................: 60563 3f. Country....................: USA Administrative Contact 4a. NIC Handle (if known)......: JF553 4b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: I 4c. Name (Last, First).........: Fleming, Jim 4d. Organization Name..........: Unir Corporation 4e. Street Address.............: One Naperville Plaza 4f. City.......................: Naperville 4g. State......................: IL 4h. Postal Code................: 60563 4i. Country....................: USA 4j. Phone Number...............: 630-505-5801 4k. Fax Number.................: 630-717-1072 4l. E-Mailbox..................: JimFleming at unir.com Technical Contact 5a. NIC Handle (if known)......: JF553 5b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: I 5c. Name (Last, First).........: Fleming, Jim 5d. Organization Name..........: UNETY Systems, Inc. 5e. Street Address.............: 184 Shuman Blvd. #100 5f. City.......................: Naperville 5g. State......................: IL 5h. Postal Code................: 60563 5i. Country....................: USA 5j. Phone Number...............: 630-306-0600 5k. Fax Number.................: 630-305-3277 5l. E-Mailbox..................: JimFleming at unety.net Billing Contact 6a. NIC Handle (if known)......: 6b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: I 6c. Name (Last, First).........: Cooney, Virginia 6d. Organization Name..........: Unir Corporation 6e. Street Address.............: One Naperville Plaza 6f. City.......................: Naperville 6g. State......................: IL 6h. Postal Code................: 60563 6i. Country....................: USA 6j. Phone Number...............: 630-505-5801 6k. Fax Number.................: 630-717-1072 6l. E-Mailbox..................: gcooney at unir.com Prime Name Server 7a. Primary Server Hostname....: NS.UNIR.COM 7b. Primary Server Netaddress..: 207.32.159.1 Secondary Name Server(s) 8a. Secondary Server Hostname..: NS.UNETY.NET 8b. Secondary Server Netaddress: 207.32.128.1 Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Wed Jun 17 11:06:31 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Imagine the IAB as a CEO and 15 Person Board
by JimFleming＠unety.net 16 Jun '98

16 Jun '98

Here is another way to look at the IAB and the situation that is developing after the unfortunate decision on the part of the U.S. Government to toss the DNS hot potatoe back to Jon Postel. The U.S. Government's White Paper calls for a CEO and a 15 person Board. Let's imagine that Jon Postel is the "CEO" and the other 15 members of the IAB are the Board. Let's also imagine that this has been the structure of the IANA Inc. for years and that fair and impartial decisions have been made about new TLDs and /8 allocations. NOW...imagine that a transition is taking place. Imagine that each stakeholder is required to line up behind one of the Board members to vote on two things: 1. The new replacement for that Board member 2. The selection of a new CEO Imagine that people lined up as follows...with some imaginary reasons shown in the parenthesis. Imagine that everyone has to fit somewhere under the 15 Board members. <http://www.isi.edu/iab/members.html> "Hypothetical CEO" - Jon Postel -- postel at isi.edu -- IANA -- RFC Editor 1. Brian Carpenter -- brian at hursley.ibm.com -- IAB Chair 2. Steve Bellovin -- smb at research.att.com 3. Jon Crowcroft -- J.Crowcroft at cs.ucl.ac.uk Jim Dixon - jdd at matthew.uk1.vbc.net United Kingdom 4. Steve Deering -- deering at cisco.com 5. Ned Freed -- Ned.Freed at innosoft.com 6. Tony Hain -- tonyhain at microsoft.com Chris Ambler - cambler at iodesign.com (Microsoft employee) Bill Gates and the Remainder of Microsoft 7. Tim Howes -- howes at netscape.com 8. Erik Huizer -- Erik.Huizer at sec.nl 9. Cyndi Jung -- cmj at 3Com.com 10. John Klensin -- klensin at mail1.reston.mci.net -- Liaison to the IESG Vinton Cerf - vcerf at mci.net (MCI) Don Heath - heath at isoc.org (ex-MCI) 11. Robert Moskowitz -- rgm at icsa.net 12. Charlie Perkins -- charles.perkins at sun.com Jeff Williams - jwkckid1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (Java Programmer) 13. Fred Baker -- fred at cisco.com -- IETF/IESG Chair Einar Stefferud - stef at nma.com (IETF) 14. Keith Moore -- "moore at cs.utk.edu -- Liaison from the IESG Craig Simon - cls at flywheel.com (PhD Student) 15. Abel Weinrib -- AWeinrib at ibeam.jf.intel.com -- IRTF Chair, IAB Executive Director OK....I hope you made it this far...given the entire world lined up behind the 15 Board members plus Jon Postel, how would you evolve the system ? I hope this encourages people to think about specific plans and not hypothetical, meta-physical, plans. Now is the time to get down to details... Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Tue Jun 16 11:02:13 MET DST 1998 ---------

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An Open Discussion With the IAB ?
by JimFleming＠unety.net 16 Jun '98

16 Jun '98

The statement below was recently released by the Internet Architecture Board (IAB). The members of the IAB are shown below and here: <http://www.isi.edu/iab/members.html> In my opinion, the best way to hold an open discussion about this announcement is with the IAB on the Internet. If these people are really interested in open discussions about Internet Governance they can easily post their views to the lists that seem to attract people from around the world. No one needs to fly to Washington, D.C. to participate in these discussions. The discussions can happen at any time. It is up to the IAB to enter these open discussions. To date, they have hardly participated. As more and more discussions open up and as people begin to look at alternative Internet architectures, one would think that the IAB members would be interested in helping to shape these discussions. It will be interesting to see if they participate in the growing, global Internet in open discussions with people other than themselves. They have the opportunity, it is sitting in front of them. Jim Fleming Brian Carpenter -- brian at hursley.ibm.com -- IAB Chair Steve Bellovin -- smb at research.att.com Jon Crowcroft -- J.Crowcroft at cs.ucl.ac.uk Steve Deering -- deering at cisco.com Ned Freed -- Ned.Freed at innosoft.com Tony Hain -- tonyhain at microsoft.com Tim Howes -- howes at netscape.com Erik Huizer -- Erik.Huizer at sec.nl Cyndi Jung -- cmj at 3Com.com John Klensin -- klensin at mail1.reston.mci.net -- Liaison to the IESG Robert Moskowitz -- rgm at icsa.net Charlie Perkins -- charles.perkins at sun.com EX OFFICIO Fred Baker -- fred at cisco.com -- IETF/IESG Chair Keith Moore -- "moore at cs.utk.edu -- Liaison from the IESG Abel Weinrib -- AWeinrib at ibeam.jf.intel.com -- IRTF Chair, IAB Executive Director Jon Postel -- postel at isi.edu -- IANA -- RFC Editor On Monday, June 15, 1998 7:31 AM, Kent Crispin[SMTP:kent at SONGBIRD.COM] wrote: @posted to the ietf list: @ @-----Forwarded message from Brian E Carpenter <brian at hursley.ibm.com>----- @Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:16:36 +0100 @From: Brian E Carpenter <brian at hursley.ibm.com> @Organization: IBM Internet Division @To: ietf at ietf.org @Subject: IAB statement on US Government White Paper @ @ @The Internet Architecture Board (IAB) has reviewed the US Government @White Paper at @http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/6_5_98dns.htm @and welcomes it, especially the emphasis on self-governance @for the Internet. In our view it is rather urgent to build @international consensus around the new IANA corporation, and @the IAB will strive to do so as quickly as possible. In particular, @the IAB believes that the new corporation must be built out @from the existing IANA function hosted by the Information Sciences @Institute of the University of Southern California under the @direction of Jon Postel. @ @The IAB is an oversight committee of the Internet Engineering Task @Force (IETF). For further details, please see the Web site @http://www.iab.org/iab . @ @ @ Brian Carpenter (IAB Chair) June 15, 1998 @ @-----End of forwarded message----- @ @-- @Kent Crispin, PAB Chair "No reason to get excited", @kent at songbird.com the thief he kindly spoke... @PGP fingerprint: B1 8B 72 ED 55 21 5E 44 61 F4 58 0F 72 10 65 55 @http://songbird.com/kent/pgp_key.html @ @ @-- @DOMAIN-POLICY administrivia should be sent to <listserv at lists.internic.net> @To unsubscribe send a message with only one line "SIGNOFF DOMAIN-POLICY" @For more help regarding Listserv commands send the one line "HELP" @ @ @ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Tue Jun 16 06:06:59 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Is IANA.ORG the White Paper Organization ?
by JimFleming＠unety.net 13 Jun '98

13 Jun '98

Does anyone know what the difference will be in IANA.ORG and IANA.COM ? Bill Manning attended the meetings held in the Asia Pacific region with Ira Magaziner. Apparently, he is "owner" of IANA.COM. As some people know, when I asked questions about the Asia/Pacific situation, the people in that region censored the communication. Jim Fleming @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA-DOM) c/o USC-ISI Suite 1001 4676 Admiralty Way Marina del Rey, CA 90292 Domain Name: IANA.ORG Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) iana at iana.org (310) 822-1511 Billing Contact: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) iana at iana.org (310) 822-1511 Record last updated on 06-Apr-98. Record created on 05-Jun-95. Database last updated on 13-Jun-98 04:01:32 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: VENERA.ISI.EDU 128.9.0.32 128.9.176.32 NS.ISI.EDU 128.9.128.127 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA3-DOM) 4676 Admiralty Way MDR, CA 90292 US Domain Name: IANA.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Manning, Bill (WM110) bmanning at ISI.EDU 310-322-8102 Record last updated on 18-Dec-96. Record created on 29-Jul-96. Database last updated on 13-Jun-98 04:01:32 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS.ISI.EDU 128.9.128.127 ORB.ISI.EDU 128.9.160.66 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ -------- Logged at Sun Jun 14 01:07:33 MET DST 1998 ---------

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IANA Applications for TLDs
by JimFleming＠unety.net 13 Jun '98

13 Jun '98

I suggest that ANY company serious about being a REGISTRY for a Top Level Domain send the following form to <comments at iana.org>. This will help to time-stamp people's intentions on the web site. http://www.iana.org/comments-mail/maillist.html 0a. (N)ew (M)odify (D)elete....: New 0b. Auth Scheme................: 0c. Auth Info..................: 1. Comments...................: Application for Top Level Domain 2. Complete Domain Name.......: Organization Using Domain Name 3a. Organization Name..........: 3b. Street Address.............: 3c. City.......................: 3d. State......................: 3e. Postal Code................: 3f. Country....................: Administrative Contact 4a. NIC Handle (if known)......: 4b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: 4c. Name (Last, First).........: 4d. Organization Name..........: 4e. Street Address.............: 4f. City.......................: 4g. State......................: 4h. Postal Code................: 4i. Country....................: 4j. Phone Number...............: 4k. Fax Number.................: 4l. E-Mailbox..................: Technical Contact 5a. NIC Handle (if known)......: 5b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: 5c. Name (Last, First).........: 5d. Organization Name..........: 5e. Street Address.............: 5f. City.......................: 5g. State......................: 5h. Postal Code................: 5i. Country....................: 5j. Phone Number...............: 5k. Fax Number.................: 5l. E-Mailbox..................: Billing Contact 6a. NIC Handle (if known)......: 6b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: 6c. Name (Last, First).........: 6d. Organization Name..........: 6e. Street Address.............: 6f. City.......................: 6g. State......................: 6h. Postal Code................: 6i. Country....................: 6j. Phone Number...............: 6k. Fax Number.................: 6l. E-Mailbox..................: Prime Name Server 7a. Primary Server Hostname....: 7b. Primary Server Netaddress..: Secondary Name Server(s) 8a. Secondary Server Hostname..: 8b. Secondary Server Netaddress: Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Sat Jun 13 23:17:06 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Every Active Member Deserves A Paycheck!
by 197N08ul3＠1botl3e.ar 13 Jun '98

13 Jun '98

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Global Incorporation Alliance Workshop?
by JimFleming＠unety.net 12 Jun '98

12 Jun '98

On Friday, June 12, 1998 4:41 AM, Karl Auerbach[SMTP:karl at CaveBear.com] wrote: @ @> C. Launch the new IANA with a 15 person board appointed as follows: @ @> Karl Auerbach, attorney @ @Yeah, mea culpa. @ @http://www.cavebear.com/ and follow the links to me and to CaveBear. @ @Thanks for the nomination. @ @By-the-way, I do consider myself more of a techie with legal training @rather than an attorney with technical expertise: @ @I tend to spend most of my time designing real-time, near-broadcast @quality, IP multicast, audio/video systems for the Internet. (I was @employee #1 at Precept Software which was recently merged into Cisco.) @ @And I also help design, build, and operate the big show network for @Networld+Interop (It's the worlds largest mobile/trade-show network -- @talk about a place to play with all kinds of new gear in a big way!) At @the recent Las Vegas show I put together a multivendor group where we did @RSVP/QoS interoperability testing [one of the RSVP implementations was @mine.] @ @Plus I've put together what many consider to be the best network @troubleshooting tool, which I give away. [This was a result of one hard, @painful lesson on how to not run a business.] @ @(But I did get a "cum laude" on my law degree. ;-) [Wow, I bet that @sentence triggers a bunch of e-mail filters.] @ @ --karl-- @ Thanks for the reply. I guess this takes you out of the "running" on the newdom list. :-) Also, maybe you can help the other people in the GIAW movement to come up with 3 more people. Also, it may be difficult to get the other major groups to appoint 3 people. They seem to want to focus on name calling. C. Launch the new IANA with a 15 person board appointed as follows: 3 - http://www.iana.org and "newdom" discussions Rick Wesson Chris Ambler John Frangie Jay Fenello Ellen Rony Eugene Kashpureff Steve Heflin Dave Crocker Marc Hurst Jean-Christophe Praud 3 - http://www.gtld-mou.org and mail lists Here are the people that I feel are MOST responsible for the IAHC/CORE plan. Maybe all of them should be nominated to be an IANA Inc. Director. 1. Jon Postel - IANA/USC/ISI 2. Don Heath - ISOC 3. Dave Crocker - IMC 4. Robert Shaw - ITU 5. George Strawn - NSF 6. David Maher - McDonalds 7. John Gilmore - EFF 8. Vinton Cerf - MCI 9. Michael Dillon - Priori 10. Gordon Cook - Cook Report 11. Perry Metzger - NY 12. Bill Manning - USC/ISI 13. Scott Bradner - ISOC 14. Ken Crispin - LBL 15. Rick Wesson - SF/CA 3 - http://www.giaw.org meeting in July and open-rsc lists Tony Rutkowski Richard Sexton Prof. Tamar Frankel, Boston Univ. Law School Prof. Vic Khanna, Boston Univ. Law School Prof. Claire Hill, George Mason Univ. Law School David R. Johnson, Aspen Institute Einar Stefferud, NMA Associates Laina Raveendran Greene, attorney Karl Auerbach, attorney Prof. David Farber, U Penn Prof. A. Michael Froomkin, U. Miami School of Law Carl Oppedahl, attorney Dan Steinberg, attorney John R Mathiason, attorney Milton Mueller, attorney Craig Simon, researcher 3 - http://www.ripe.net dns & tld working groups @@@ http://www.ripe.net/meetings/ripe/ripe-30/attend.html ?? Antonio Marquez Rediris AT Christian Panigl VUCC/ACOnet AT Gerhard Winkler VUCC / ACOnet AT Herbert Schoefbaenker Council Systems AT Wilfried Woeber UniVie - ACOnet BE Igor Sportmans Belgacom BE Pascal Delmoitie BELNET BE Patrick De Groote Unisource Belgium BE Stefano Previdi cisco Systems CH Felix Kugler SWITCH CH Marcel Schneider SWITCH CH Roger Gottsponer SWITCH CH ivan communod digital CM Denis Akam INTELCAM CM Jean Ernest Bikoe INTELCAM CM Raphael Tientcheu INTELCAM CZ Ingrid Ledererova InWay, a.s. CZ Petr Kral InWay, a.s. DE Andrea Kolek Deutsche Telekom AG DE Andreas Schachtner eco e.V. DE Anton Zur Evolution Systems DE Bernhard Kroenung regio[.NET] GmbH DE Berthold Paffrath Deutsche Telekom AG DE Bettina Kauth DFN-NOC DE Carsten Schiefner TCP/IP GmbH - Contrib.Net DE Christian Braun DENIC DE Christoph Gaertner o.tel.o communications DE David Pratt VIAG Interkom DE Dhouha Houssi DENIC DE Gerd Dopjans o.tel.o communications GmbH & Co DE Gert Doering SpaceNet DE Greg Cipollone Twinwave GmbH DE Ingo Stampe mediaWays DE Jan Czmok IPF.NET Service Provider GmbH DE Joachim Schmitz America Online Inc DE Jonas Luster easynet DV GmbH DE Kai Siering IS Internet Services GmbH & Co DE Klaus Landefeld Nacamar Group PLC DE Ludger Bornhorst Deutsche Telekom DE Martin Sieler Fraunhofer IIS-A DE Michael Beckmann POP Point of Presence DE Michael Froelich ECRC Network Services GmbH DE Michael van Elst Xlink Internet Consulting GmbH DE Oliver Doll UUNET Deutschland GmbH DE Peter Juffernholz Teleglobe GmbH DE Ruediger Kladt IPF.NET DE Ruediger Volk Deutsche Telekom AG DE S. Petra Zeidler Xlink Internet Service GmbH DE Stefan Maly MultiNET Services DE Thomas Trede Nacamar DE Volkmar Juergens POP Point of Presence DE Wolfgang Tremmel Xlink DE Wolfram Becker ECRC Network Services GmbH DK Frode Greisen Ebone DK Morten Christensen Tele Danmark Internet DK Sean Doran Ebone A/S DK Torben Bajlum Tele Danmark ES Daniel Diaz RedIRIS ES Javier Gonzalez Telefonica Transmision de Datos ES Manuel Garcia Acceso Sistemas de Informacion, s.a. EU Ambrose Magee RIPE NCC EU Bettina Schroeder RIPE NCC EU Chris Fletcher RIPE NCC EU Daniel Karrenberg RIPE NCC EU Eamonn McGuinness RIPE NCC EU Fay Howard RIPE NCC EU Graca Carvalho Cisco Systems Europe EU Henk Uijterwaal RIPE NCC EU James Aldridge EUnet EU Joao Damas RIPE NCC EU John Crain RIPE NCC EU Lee Wilmot RIPE NCC EU Maldwyn Morris RIPE NCC EU Mandy Jonkers RIPE NCC EU Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC EU Monica Cortes RIPE NCC EU Naomi de Bruyn RIPE NCC EU Paula Caslav RIPE NCC EU Pepa Tejedor RIPE NCC EU Sabrina Waschke RIPE NCC FI Arttu Laine EUnet Finland Oy FI Jorma Mellin Telia Finland Ltd FI Juha Oinonen CSC/FUNET FI Juha Paananen Telia Finland Oy FI Kristian Rastas Sonera Corporation FI Marko Memonen CSC-Tieteellinen Laskenta Oy FI Patrik Andersin Clinet Oy FI Petteri Helin Clinet Oy FI Sami Koskinen Clinet Oy FI Vesa Ruokonen Telia Finland Oy FR Alexandre Provost Groupe Ecritel France FR Annie Renard AFNIC (NIC France) FR Arnaud Lejeune Graphnet FR Beatrice Faure Groupe Ecritel France FR Christophe Cachat CEGETEL ENTREPRISES FR Daniele Bovio America Online, Inc. FR Etienne Ruch Siris FR Francis Dupont GIE DYADE FR Lionel GARENNE CEGETEL Entreprises FR Marc PICHON CEGETEL Entreprises FR Michael Hallgren Graphnet FR Nelly Denise SIRIS FR Paul Rolland Oleane FR Sylvain Kouda Siris GB Asquith Bonaparte JIPS NOSC (ULCC) GB Duncan Rogerson TEN-34 NOC GB Kevin Hoadley JANET GB Richard Sloan UUNET UK GR Manolis Chatzakis ICS-FORTH GR HU Attila Nyari Westel900 GSM. Mobile Teleco. HU Balazs Martos Hungarnet HU Janos Zsako BankNet IE Mike Norris HEAnet IS Marius Olafsson INTIS IT Andrea Mattasoglio CILEA IT Antonio-Blasco Bonito University of Pisa IT Daniele Vannozzi CNR IT Gian Luca Mattu Telecom Italia SpA IT Stefano Suin University of Pisa IT Vittore Casarosa CNR - IAT LU Thierry Coutelier Entreprise des P&T NL Armand Verstappen Demon Internet NL Boudewijn Nederkoorn SURFnet NL Diederik van Diggelen AT&T-Unisource NL Erik Lohr IBM Global Services NL Erwin d' Hont Demon Internet NL Hans van Duijne AT&T-Unisource NL Hans van der Molen AT&T-Unisource NL John Martin TERENA NL Marian Kruydenhof Unisource Business Networks b.v. NL Rob Blokzijl RIPE/NIKHEF NL Ronald van der Pol SURFnet NL Thomas Telkamp AT&T-Unisource NL henk smit cisco systems NO Hans Petter Holen SOL System AS NO Havard Eidnes UNINETT/NORDUnet NO Hogne Solvoll Telenor Nextel NO Steinar Grotterod Telia Registry Norge NZ Patrick O'Brien Domainz -- The New Zealand Internet Registry Ltd PL Konrad Plich TP S.A. - CST PL Maciej Kozlowski NASK PL Miroslaw Luc Research and Academic Network in Poland PL Wojtek Malek TP S.A. - CST PL Wojtek Sylwestrzak ICM PT Armando Domingues FCCN PT Rui Azevedo Matos Telepac RU Andrew Romanov RIPN RU Maria Stepanova RIPN SE Anders Hedlund Telia AB SE Anders Honkamaa pi.se AB SE Andreas Haggander Telia Network Services SE Anna Skyllberg Telia AB SE Bjorn Carlsson EBONE inc SE Carl Hamacher Telenordia SE Carl Moberg Telia Network Services SE Catherine Exelby FCI Telecommunications Corporation SE David Kvarnberg pi.se AB SE Dennis Wennstrvm Telenordia SE Eden Akhavi FCI Telecommunications Corporation SE Eric Ostberg Telenordia AB SE Eva Froelich NIC-SE SE Fredrik Nyman SwipNet SE Fredrik Widell Global One SE Gabrielle Eklund pi.se AB SE Gunilla Malmqvist Telenordia AB SE Gunnar Lindberg Chalmers University of Technology SE Hakan Hansson Telia Network Services SE Hans Niklasson SwipNet SE Helen Dagerus SwipNET SE Jan Guldborg Ebone Inc. SE Jorgen Larsson Telia AB Sektor Datakom SE Klara Rank pi.se AB SE Kurt Erik Lindqvist EUnet Sverige AB SE Lotta Flyman Telia Network Services SE Madeleine Gustafsson Telenordia AB SE Magnus Ahltorp Aladdin SE Michael Skutnabba Telenordia AB SE Mikael Eriksson KTH/IT SE Nisse Steen SwipNet SE Ola Winberg FMV SE Ove Landberg Swedish Armed Forces SE Patric Ostman Global One SE Per Lundberg Telecom Finland AB, SONERA AB SE Per-Olof Haettner FMV SE Peter Lothberg Stupi AB SE Peter Nilsson Global One SE Pontus Ekman pi.se AB SE Ragnar Lvnn Telenordia SE Rikard Hoglund Telia Network Services SE Sofia Hymnelius Telia AB SE Tomas Ahlstrvm Telia Ab SE Tomi Kortelainen KTH/IT SE Uno Staver FMV SE stockman bernhard Telianet SI Avgust Jauk ARNES SI Barbara Povse Golob ARNES SK Lubos Elias SANET SK Marian Durkovic CVTSTU/SANET SK Miroslav Vallo TELENOR Slovakia UA Alexander Milutin INFOCOM UA Yuri Demchenko Global Ukraine JV UK Anthony Turner Netcom UK Ltd. UK Darren Byrne Demon Internet Ltd. UK Darren Taylor Demon Internet Ltd. UK Denesh Bhabuta Demon Internet Ltd. UK Dr William Black Nominet UK UK Elliott Atkins REDNET Limited UK Geoffrey Sisson Nominet UK UK Ivan Beveridge Demon Internet Ltd. UK Keith Mitchell LINX UK Michael Behringer DANTE UK Paul Thornton LINX UK Peter Emptage Cisco Systems UK Richard Almeida Internet Network Services UK Sam Critchley UUNET UK Stephen Burley UUNET UK Steve Foster Global High Street Ltd US Carl Malamud Internet Multicasting Service US Craig Labovitz Merit Network, Inc. US David Kessens ISI US Dawn Martin ARIN US Deibler Danielle L. DIGEX, Incorporated US Dorian Kim Verio US Ed Kern DIGEX US Jake Khuon Merit Network, Inc. US Kim Hubbard ARIN US Mark McFadden Commercial Internet eXchange US Randy Bush Verio, Inc. US Robert C. Noland III UUNET Technologies US Robert Hinden Nokia US Tom Spindler Merit Network, Inc. US rekhter yakov Sisco systems @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 3 - APNIC & Australian DNS discussions dns at iia.net.au Jun Murai David Conrad Laina Raveendran Greene, attorney Adam Todd Robert Elz Geoff Huston Leni Mayo @@@@@@@@@@ My apologies for any misspelled names. Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Sat Jun 13 02:23:01 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Door Number 1, 2, or 3 ?
by JimFleming＠unety.net 12 Jun '98

12 Jun '98

On Thursday, June 11, 1998 7:14 PM, Craig Simon[SMTP:cls at flywheel.com] wrote: @I'm not sure I'll be able to afford to attend, but I was able to get @myself added to the participant list pretty easily, which I take as a @reasonably good indication that the GIAW is open. If I can get in then @I'm sure you others can. @ The number of casual observers to the domain name debates is clearly growing. There are now at least three directions that these people can head, plus several other forums and lists that have been around for years. 1. IANA (New) - http://www.iana.org 2. ITU/ISOC/IAHC/PAB/POC/CORE - http://www.gtld-mou.org 3. Network Solutions, Inc. - http://www.giaw.org I suggest that people get behind the people forming the new IANA (#1 above) and take the following steps: A. Join the recently re-opened "newdom" mailing list for an open discussion on how to bring the serious stakeholders together ONLINE, via the Internet. Send a "subscribe" message body to majordomo at ar.com. B. Help the current IANA "staff" incorporate as a non-profit company. C. Launch the new IANA with a 15 person board appointed as follows: 3 - http://www.iana.org and "newdom" discussions 3 - http://www.gtld-mou.org and mail lists 3 - http://www.giaw.org meeting in July and open-rsc lists 3 - http://www.ripe.net dns & tld working groups 3 - APNIC & Australian DNS discussions dns at iia.net.au D. Deploy a NEW robust collection of RFC 2010 Root Name Servers E. Delegate .US, .COM, .NET and .ORG to the legacy NSI servers F. Deploy THREE new TLDs from the CORE choices for Switzerland (.CH) G. Allow ALL other existing country code TLD registries to select 3 more TLDs H. Select a 16 person IANA Inc. Advisory Committee by Choosing 2 people from each of the IPv8 regions shown here: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt This proposal should be easy for people following #2 to adopt. In my opinion, it will be the shortest path to introducing new TLDs to the general public. The 80+ CORE Registrars should be able to compete in the OPEN market place against the people that are trying to organize #3 above, behind closed doors in Washington, D.C. In my opinion, those people should be asked to supply 3 board members to the new IANA Inc. which should be well on its way to incorporation by July 4, 1998. Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Fri Jun 12 18:16:55 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Door Number 1, 2, or 3 ?
by JimFleming＠unety.net 11 Jun '98

11 Jun '98

Casual observers to the Domain Name Debates might now conclude that there are three choices or paths to follow: 1. IANA (New) - http://www.iana.org 2. ITU/ISOC/IAHC/PAB/POC/CORE - http://www.gtld-mou.org 3. Network Solutions, Inc. - http://www.giaw.org I suggest that people get behind the people forming the new IANA (#1 above) and take the following steps: 1. Incorporate the IANA as a non-profit company 2. Deploy a NEW robust collection of Root Name Servers 3. Delegate .COM, .NET and .ORG to the legacy InterNIC servers 4. Deploy TWO new TLDs from the CORE choices for Switzerland (.CH) 5. Allow other existing country code TLD registries to select 2 more TLDs 6. Select a 16 person IANA Inc. Board of Directors by Choosing 2 people from each of the IPv8 regions shown here: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt This proposal should be easy for people following #2 to adopt. In my opinion, it will be the shortest path to introducing new TLDs to the general public. The 80+ CORE Registrars should be able to compete in the OPEN market place against the people that are trying to organize #3 above, behind closed doors in Washington, D.C. Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Thu Jun 11 09:08:56 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Can countries select ANY code letters they desire ?
by JimFleming＠unety.net 09 Jun '98

09 Jun '98

"Can countries select ANY code letters they desire ? ...since, according to the NEW IANA, it is "not in the business of deciding...what code letters are appropriate for a particular country" @@@@@ http://www.iana.org/cctld.html "The codes IANA uses are two-letter codes from the ISO 3166 standard. IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country, nor what code letters are appropriate for a particular country." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://207.32.159.1 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Tue Jun 9 14:00:23 MET DST 1998 ---------

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