June 1998 - tld-wg - mailman.ripe.net

FW: Domain name and Net-governance info should be public
by JimFleming＠unety.net 30 Jun '98

30 Jun '98

---------- From: Declan McCullagh[SMTP:declan at well.com] Sent: Monday, June 29, 1998 11:37 AM To: politech at vorlon.mit.edu Subject: FC: Domain name and Net-governance info should be public [I agree that this information should be public. All of us have a stake in Internet governance. I hope all portions of this week's meeting will be open to the press. --Declan] ***** Subject: IFWP [Fwd: Conference Call Notes (fwd)] From: Einar Stefferud <stef at nma.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:14:25 -0700 I have obtained this though opaque channels, but I also feel that this kind of information belongs in public view, so I am pulbishing it for ORSC without permission. If anyone wishes to complain about this, the fact of the complaint, and who issues is will be very interesting data points. I suggest that the organizers of the July 1-2 meeting should themselves publish this information for open public review, and the fact that they have so far chosen not to do so is a mark against them which may in time damage the whole effort. As with secrecy in governments, such hiding of oganizing information can only breed rumors and diminish credibiliity of all participants. Best...\Stef ------- Forwarded Message Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:37:19 -0400 From: June Portch <admin at cix.org> To: roberts at educom.edu, burack at isoc.org, soneill at itaa.org, jenglund at itaa.org, MUncapher at itaa.org, briano at isa.net, jeff at isa.net, kawchuk at idirect.com, oportunidades at redynet.com.ar, montjoy at bbnplanet.com, jberman at cdt.org, djw at cdt.org, deb.howard at 2cowherd.net, jhhur at nuri.net, rhicks at clear.co.nz, laina at singnet.com.sg, jdd at vbc.net, sastre at anwalt.de, gidaa at perkinscoie.com, JohnW at Prince.com, akraft at association.org, rob at echelon.ca, exec at aop.org, andy at interactivehq.org, rob at echelon.ca, freedman at netaxs.com, charles.smith at ispc.org, bdooley at cix Cc: Haywood_Torrence at SMTP.NYNEX.COM, mberejka at microsoft.com, rogerc at us.ibm.com, cantrellj at mail.dnb.com, dont at netsol.com, mcade at att.com, Liz.Hogan at mci.com, mitchell at eni.net Subject: Conference Call Notes Broadening of Framework for White Paper Workshops Conference Call June 16, 1998 Participants: Andy Sernovitz AIM Laina Greene APIA Ron Kawchuk CAIP Rob Hall CAIP Mark McFadden CIX Barbara Dooley CIX June Portch CIX John Wood CSSA Mike Roberts Educom Jim Dixon EuroISPA Michael Schneider EuroISPA Andy Kraft AIP Marty Burack ISOC Don Heath ISOC Charles Smith ISP/C Sheila O'Neill ITAA Don Telage Network Solutions Scott Mitchell Epoch/CORE member Marilyn Cade ATT/PSWG Summary of Call [brackets are additional information by Barbara Dooley] The participants on the call agreed that a framework of regional meetings sponsored by associations representing diverse constituences (broadly speaking,academic/research, providers, users, Internet industry associations) would be appropriate to continue the private sector leadership called for in the White Paper. The principles of the sponsoring associations would be that the meetings would open to all interested stakeholders groups and parties a forum to work on the three primary areas left open in the White Paper: Organization of the New Corporation Dispute Resolution and gTLD Issues Security & Privacy Issues It was agreed that this must be perceived as an open process based on the White Paper and that Jon Postel, representing the current IANA and as a key participant in this process, should be encouraged to participate in all three meetings and might issue a statement supporting this framework of neutral fora. The first meeting with be held 1-2 July in the DC area--the GIAW meeting. The second will be held in Europe, with a preference for EuroISPA, CSSA and other European associations to work with ISOC/INET on that event to be held in Geneva. The third will be held in the Asia/Pacific region, a lead to be taken by APIA. It will be the responsibility of the organizers to ensure that there is an information flow and conduit regarding these meetings, to make publicly available summaries of the workshops, and to make sure that a least some representives from each region attend each event. If additional neutral legal/policy expertise is needed in context of the workshops, for example to support Dr. Frankel at the GIAW, it might be possible to ask the ILPF and APPLe (the Asia Pacific Policy and Legal Forum0 to help locate such moderators. It was agreed that all kinds of mailing lists will be used to facilitate discussion and continued work during and after the workshops. It was proposed that any association which agrees to these principles can become a sponsoring association and will be listed on the webpage(s). The GIAW website will link to European and A/P sites which will have information on those regional meetings. Those on the call agreed in principle to sponsor this framework and will be listed as such when the updated website appears [Thursday]. A Sponsoring Association can participate in the Steering Committee. The steering committee responsibilities are to make sure the events are organized, to draft and coordinate the media advisories, and to facilitate the information flow to the sponsoring associations and stakeholders. Because of the tight schedule for planning, steering committee members must commit doing the work, and supply a proxy with decision-making authority if the appointed rep is not available. The GIAW website is currently being hosted by CIX. The GIAW mailing lists are in the process of being transferred [Tuesday]. CIX has also hired an outside PR firm, Optimum, to answer media calls and be the spokesperson for the sponsors for the GIAW meeting [to be confirmed by Steering Committee]. Some companies and associations have expressed a willingness to contribute to the funding of this organization effort and this will be followed up on immediately. **************************************************************************** ****** Post-call developments Barbara has received written or verbal intention to participate in the Steering Committee from AIM, AIP, CAIP, CIX, Educom and EuroISPA. The first Steering Committee conference call will be scheduled for Thursday 12 noon EST,to give time for more associations, including those who want to participate but could not be on today's call, to join in[sorry Laina]. The call-in number will be sent out Wednesday. The purpose of that call would be to discuss the financing, prepare the elements of a media advisory, and discuss how to create a feedback process for creation of the agenda for the 1-2 July meeting. A draft of the media advisory could be prepared and sent to the sponsoring associations for comment. The steering commitee will incorporate the editorial suggestions for release Friday noon EST. Some thoughts on financing from Barbara: a suggestion would be to ask for a modest amount from the steering committee members and interested company/ad hoc group/coalition supporters, say $2000, with a goal to raise $30,000. ************************************************* June Portch Member Services Commercial Internet eXchange Association 1041 Sterling Road Suite 104A Herndon, VA 20170 Voice: 703.709.8200 Fax: 703.709.5249 ------- End of Forwarded Message -------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to majordomo at vorlon.mit.edu with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Logged at Wed Jul 15 02:07:40 MET DST 1998 ---------

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The Postage Stamp Plan
by JimFleming＠unety.net 27 Jun '98

27 Jun '98

The Postage Stamp Plan is very simple: 1. Take the current 2-letter TLDs and move them to the postal authorities for the country or area the TLD supposedly covers. For the .IO TLD it might end up some where near the Indian Ocean. In the U.S. and Canada that will be "private" corporations. 2. Allow each of the 2-letter TLD authorities to select UP TO 6 additional generic TLDs much the way they create postage stamps. [As an aside, there is evidently an ELVIS stamp in the U.S. This shows that some creativity may be allowed.] 3. Have the 2-letter TLD "postel authority" contract to have the registry functions handled on an out-sourced basis to a variety of companies and government agencies. 4. Through rain, and snow and sleet...deliver the mail... For example: .US - U.S. Postal Service - subcontracted to ???? .COM - subcontracted to ???? .NET - subcontracted to ???? .ORG - subcontracted to ???? ISOC ??? .GOV - subcontracted to ???? .MIL - subcontracted to ???? DOD ??? .EDU - subcontracted to ???? .CH - Switzerland .INT - subcontracted to ???? .NOM - subcontracted to ??? CORE ??? .FIRM - subcontracted to ??? CORE ??? .SHOP - subcontracted to ??? CORE ??? .REC - subcontracted to ??? CORE ??? .INFO - subcontracted to ??? CORE ??? .CA - Canada .XXX - subcontracted to ??? .SEX - subcontracted to ??? .PER - subcontracted to ??? .??? - subcontracted to ??? .??? - subcontracted to ??? .??? - subcontracted to ??? <Over 240 additional 2-letter TLDs omitted> The U.S. Government's legacy Root Name Server Confederation then just has to declare that it only accepts "postage stamps" from Postel Authorities. Apparently, that Root Name Server Confederation will be run by the new IANA Inc. It is just one of many. Here is some info for an organization that might be able to help provide a neutral forum for resolving the details. @@@@@ http://postinfo.upu.org POST*Info is the interactive Web Site published by the UPU's Postal Technology Centre. POST*Info is aimed towards promoting postal technologies in general and the support of the UPU's Telematics Project in particular." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://postinfo.upu.org/PI_TC_Menu.htm "The objectives of the Telematics Cooperative are: to identify and fulfill the current and future postal aims and requirements in the field of information systems and electronic communications, particularly those involving Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) related products and services; to establish a common electronic infrastructure which matches the well established postal physical infrastructure; to implement systems which ensure secure information exchange, secure payments and secure deliveries between PPOs and with their customers; to implement operational and management systems which ensures rapid pick-up and delivery; to establish systems which will help PPOs become more competitive in the fields of Administration and Production and enable the development of value-added services related to basic postal products and services; to secure a stable and sufficient funding of Telematics Projects entrusted upon the International Bureau, and specifically its Postal Technology Center, in order to ensure the continuation of the deployment, maintenance, and support activities carried out in this field. The main aims of the Telematics Cooperative are: Establish strategies and instruments through which it intends to achieve its objectives; Ensure fair access to the UPU's products and services to all PPOs in general and to the Cooperative members in particular; Promote cooperation between member PPOs in order to allow them to provide their customers with a coherent set of integrated information services on a global basis; Involve member PPOs in the provision and support of Telematics products and services under the UPU's umbrella; Provide the highest quality service to its members and secure optimal organization at all times; and Help enhance the global image of the Post @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ http://postinfo.upu.org/PI_TC_CMB.htm "The Cooperative Management Board (CMB) is the formal management structure designated to supervise the activities of the Telematics Cooperative established by the UPU to support its Telematics activities." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ John Hurlen Norway Post Chairman, Cooperative Management Board E-Mail: john.hurlen at sentralledelsen.posten.no Christiane Herve La Poste, France Vice Chairman, Business Plans and Finance E-Mail: lapostedaei2 at magic.fr Shuji Obu Postal Bureau, Japan Vice Chairman, Mail Services E-Mail: s-obu at mpt.go.jp Dean Pope Canada Post Vice Chairman, Electronic Services E-Mail: dean.pope at mailposte.ca George Shipman United States Postal Service Vice Chairman, Financial Services E-Mail: gshipman at email.usps.gov Samuel M. Jabbour International Bureau of the UPU Head of Postal Technology Centre E-Mail: jabbour at ptc.upu.org @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ -------- Logged at Tue Jun 30 09:33:25 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Domains, names, extremism, and the law
by edd＠aic.net 23 Jun '98

23 Jun '98

I believe this article may be of interest to all of us... :-) Edgar Extremism and the Internet (EMAIN), Jenny Craven Centre for Research in Library and Information Management (CERLIM) University of Central Lancashire j.e.craven at uclan.ac.uk http://ltc.law.warwick.ac.uk/jilt/wip/98_1crav/default.htm -------- Logged at Mon Jun 29 13:15:13 MET DST 1998 ---------

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No subject
by sam＠dfa.org.uk 22 Jun '98

22 Jun '98

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Is IANA Setting NSI's Policies on Who Should Pay for Domain Names ?
by JimFleming＠unety.net 22 Jun '98

22 Jun '98

In a recent discussion about the .AU domain in Australia, Robert Elz one of the administrators claimed that the IANA told ccTLD admins to ignore invoices from the InterNIC. How can the IANA (aka Jon Postel) be making the decision on who should pay an InterNIC invoice and who should not ? If the IANA tells people to ignore invoices that are sent to them does that make the debts disappear ? What does Network Solutions, Inc. do ? Does the IANA coordinate these changes with NSI ? Is this part of the reason that Jon Postel was listed as a sub-contractor to NSI on their InterNIC bid ? How does this impact the money that is supposed to go to the NSF (i.e. the U.S. Government) as part of the 30% fund ? Did the NSF approve that certain invoices could be "ignored" ? Is it true that many ISPs ignored paying invoices and nothing ever happened ? Did the IANA explicitly tell them to ignore the invoices, while other ISPs were not told this ? Was one group subsidizing the other ? Is this like parking tickets that disappear from city hall ? On Sunday, June 21, 1998 10:14 AM, Robert Elz[SMTP:kre at munnari.OZ.AU] wrote: @ @ | If your (Robert Elz) aren't getting billed, it does raise even further @ | questions. @ @No questions at all, the IANA explicitly told ccTLD admins that they should @ignore any requests for payment made by the InterNIC. They did send a few @(but never to me), but it was generally assumed to be some kind of accident. @ @kre @ Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com - 0:196 .MALL 1998 - The Year of the C+@ -------- Logged at Mon Jun 22 12:58:44 MET DST 1998 ---------

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FW: White Paper follow up
by JimFleming＠unety.net 21 Jun '98

21 Jun '98

---------- From: laina at singnet.com.sg[SMTP:laina at singnet.com.sg] Sent: Sunday, June 21, 1998 7:21 AM To: apia-members at apia.org; apple at apnic.net; Tan Tin Wee; apnic-talk at apnic.net Subject: White Paper follow up Dear all, Please note that any AP associations which would like to be added to the Steering Committee of the initiave (see Press Release below) can do so. APIA has volunteered to act as facilitator (since we were the only AP association so far involved in the discussions) and would appreciate the involvement of others in the region. The aim of the meetings is to try and consolidate the many meetings that have been announced, including the one at INET'98 to ensure some consolidation and more importantly to ensure that as many interested parties as possible can attend and be kept informed. There is even discussion of having a fellowship fund to ensure that people who cannot afford it can also attend, and this is in an effort to ensure global participation. The Europe meeting will also reach out to the Middle East and Africa and the Asia Pacific one will hope to encourage Pacific island participation as well. The regional meetings are an attempt to reach out. The meetings are not meant to push any one agenda, but rather to solicit views of others on the White Paper and to gather views to see how we can move forward on creating this new not-for-profit entity. The meetings will invite current stakeholders including Dr Postel, etc and hopes to gather as wide base support and input as possible, We do hope to enlisten your views and support so if you have any suggestions for the regional meeting in AP, please e-mail them to me at laina at getit.org and please refer to the new International Forum on the White Paper website at www.ifwp.org. The details of the Asia meeting will be announced later on the APIA website as well as on the asiapacific.ifwp.org website (under construction), and we are targetting early August. Hope to have your support in these initiatives (please read the press release below) Regards, Laina Raveendran Greene Policy Advisor APIA ---------- News For Immediate Release Contact: Janis Langley, Optimum [phone: +1 (703) 847-0192 email: press at ifwp.org ] Internet Stakeholder Associations to Advance White Paper Process Associations Plan Coordinated International Forum Washington, DC, USA - June 19, 1998 - Responding to the U.S. Government White Paper on the Technical Management of Internet Names and Addresses, a broadly based coalition of Internet stakeholder associations is calling for an international forum to prepare for the transition from government to private management. The International Forum on the White Paper (IFWP) is an international initiative sponsored by a diverse group of associations representing numerous Internet stakeholder interests from around the world. The IFWP is sponsoring coordinated international meetings to discuss the issues of Internet technical administration of names and numbers left open in the "White Paper" and the transition to a new corporation for Internet technical administration. In a White Paper released June 5, the U.S. government announced its intention to relinquish control of the Internet to a private, non-profit organization by September 30, 2000. The new organization will be created from among the diverse parties that have a stake in how domain names, Internet numbers and other Internet identifiers for the Internet are managed. The IFWP consists of associations around the world representing diverse Internet interests. Its purpose is to provide an organizing framework for the coordinated international meetings. The preliminary work to ensure that the international meetings are coordinated is being undertaken by an international, volunteer steering committee of IFWP sponsors. The first regional IFWP meeting will be held on July 1-2, at the Hyatt Regency Reston, Reston, Virginia, USA. Chaired by Professor Tamar Frankel -- a world-renowned expert on incorporation -- of the Boston University School of Law -- the two-day event will seek to identify key issues, views and opinions on the areas left open by the White Paper to private sector development. - more - These issues include the formation of the private sector corporation for the technical administration of names and numbers; the development of a new domain name registry and dispute resolution system; and security and privacy issues associated with the Internet's technical infrastructure. Additional meetings are planned around the world during the summer in anticipation of the end of existing U.S. Government contracts that manage the current Internet name and number systems. Two other meetings are currently being planned, one in Europe in July and another in Asia in early August Further information about the International Forum on the White Paper, including a list of sponsoring associations, is available at http://www.ifwp.org. Press contact: Janis Langley, Optimum [phone: +1 (703) 847-0192 email: press at ifwp.org ] ____________________. Current IFWP Sponsoring Organizations (as of June 19, 1998): Association for Interactive Media [AIM] Association of Internet Professionals {AIP] Association of Online Professionals [AOP] Asia and Pacific Internet Association [APIA] Camara Argentina de Bases de Datos y Servicios en Linea [CABASE] Canadian Association of Internet Providers [CAIP] Commercial Internet eXchange [CIX] Computer Science and Services Association [CSSA] EDUCOM/EDUCAUSE European Internet Service Providers Association [EuroISPA] Internet Alliance [IA] Internet Law and Policy Forum [ILPF] The Internet Society [ISOC] Internet Service Providers' Consortium [ISP/C] Information Technology Association of America [ITAA] Society for College and University Planning [SCUP] US Council for International Business [USCIB] -0- -----------------End of Original Message----------------- ------------------------------------- Name: Laina Raveendran Greene E-mail: laina at singnet.com.sg Date: 21/06/98 Time: 12:21:03 This message was sent by Chameleon ------------------------------------- * APPLe: To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe" to apple-request at apnic.net * -------- Logged at Mon Jun 22 04:52:55 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Cooperative Management Board (CMB)
by JimFleming＠unety.net 20 Jun '98

20 Jun '98

This seems like a good group to get involved in the discussions about new Top Level Domains which can be viewed like postage stamps. Hopefully, they will visit the following sites: http://www.iana.org http://www.giaw.org ...and people can visit their site... @@@@ http://postinfo.upu.org/PI_TC_CMB.htm "The Cooperative Management Board (CMB) is the formal management structure designated to supervise the activities of the Telematics Cooperative established by the UPU to support its Telematics activities." @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ John Hurlen Norway Post Chairman, Cooperative Management Board E-Mail: john.hurlen at sentralledelsen.posten.no Christiane Herve La Poste, France Vice Chairman, Business Plans and Finance E-Mail: lapostedaei2 at magic.fr Shuji Obu Postal Bureau, Japan Vice Chairman, Mail Services E-Mail: s-obu at mpt.go.jp Dean Pope Canada Post Vice Chairman, Electronic Services E-Mail: dean.pope at mailposte.ca George Shipman United States Postal Service Vice Chairman, Financial Services E-Mail: gshipman at email.usps.gov Samuel M. Jabbour International Bureau of the UPU Head of Postal Technology Centre E-Mail: jabbour at ptc.upu.org Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ -------- Logged at Sun Jun 21 06:54:56 MET DST 1998 ---------

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3:77 - .AM TLD
by JimFleming＠unety.net 18 Jun '98

18 Jun '98

Jean-Christophe, It appears that these comments are really directed at the .AM TLD. With a subject line beginning with 3:77, we can get them circulated and filed in the G3 region. Jim Fleming ---------- From: William X. Walsh[SMTP:william at TJNS.TJ] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 11:15 AM To: DOMAIN-POLICY at LISTS.INTERNIC.NET Subject: Re: ?:? .FCN TLD Jim, Read this carefully. IPv8 has NOTHING to do with this list. Neither the IANA, or the Internic recognize that an IPv8 such as you are proposing exists, or is even in planning stages. So it cannot possibly be on topic for this list. IPv8 has NOTHING to do with the process at hand either. IPv8 is a community made up of people who have been frustrated at their failure to obtain Top Level Domain Space, and can't possibly find a way to work within the system. What I find particularly offensive is the attempt to lay claim to large chunks of namespace with no valid claim to that namespace. AURSC's memos on that IANA website show just how ridiculous a system like IPv8 can become. No where, and let me repeat that again for emphasis, NO WHERE does IANA indicate that they are accepting applications for new TLDs, or that they plan to accept applications for TLDs. Your efforts to push people into doing so is nothing short of an attempt by you to make it appear that your "community" has more support that it really does. Filing an application now provides NO protection, nor does it set ANY precedence for use. You attempts to create artificial conflicts and artificial "news reports" is nothign but a means for you to continue your spam about your IPv8 fantasy. You intentionally ask provoking questions so you have a soap box on which to talk about IPv8. Since IPv8 has NO official standing, nor any possible basis for being on topic for this list, and in the spirit of NetSol claiming that this list should police itself, I move that you show respect for those attempting REAL discourse, and CEASE your IPv8 spam/promotion on this list. I would welcome your participation in actual on topic issues that deal with the REAL internet, not your IPv8 dream. To NetSol, if you will not take action against disruptive behavior, what options will you give us, as list members, to police this list? You claim the list should police itself. Give us the tools to do so. If you cannot, or will not, do that, then you have no rational option except to do so yourself. And failure to do so could only be read as a tacit endorsement of their off topic posting, and you should change the charter of the list to make their postings on topic. Is this an IPv8 forum or not? Is this a forum that permits racial slurs to go by with no action? These are questions myself and other responsible list members are asking. You ask us to police ourselves. We have done so. The CLEAR consensus of a majority of list members is that these individuals are disruptive. Will you not even place them on notice? I for one am sick and tired of getting Jim's FlemSpam's on IPv8 every few minutes in my inbox. Yet I will not unsubscribe, since I feel this list is one of only two that provide a semi decent forum for the REAL issues facing the domain name industry. I have recently checked out your http://www.DOT.am site. I find many things on this site that are of questionable legality under disclosure laws in the United States. Do your customers get full disclosure of the non-existant status of IPv8? Do they understand that it carries NO official endorsements by any known policy making body who deals with Internet Standards? Do they get fully informed that IPv8 and the .am registry are really worth nothing if it wasn't for the fact that the .am registry permits you to resell their namespace? I also find it QUITE amusing in light of your comments about ccTLD's being used outside the Country of Origin. Can we say hypocritical comments Jim? Also, I find your attempt to make http://www.dot.am look like a "Co-operative Registry" amusing. I wonder how long it will last when a long conversation with iDomains reveals to them the same terms we are negotiating to process domain registrations in the .am registry, and how being indepedent of you would be of so much more value to them. Why do they need you, Jim? The REAL .AM registry accepts registrations from anyone, and at their listed prices. Why the need to even use your service, Jim? Or are you attempting to exploit the ignorance of the public for financial gain? Seems like the entire IPv8 system is nothing but your attempt to place yourself in control of some resource so that you can boost your own ego. I found rather amusing your "application" to become the Caribbean Regional Registry. What interests you in the IPv4 internet, Jim? Since you are so busy with IPv8 I can't possibly see how you could have the time to provide IPv4 registry service. Or is this another attempt for you to legitimize yourself in a system that refuses to recognize your IPv8? I guess you want to have your cake and eat it too. Too bad it doesn't work that way. Take IPv8 to a forum where it is on topic. And stop your disruptive and inflammatory behaviors. --William Date sent: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:31:24 -0500 Send reply to: Jim Fleming <JimFleming at UNETY.NET> From: Jim Fleming <JimFleming at UNETY.NET> Subject: ?:? .FCN TLD Originally to: "bob at wtv.net" <bob at wtv.net> To: DOMAIN-POLICY at LISTS.INTERNIC.NET > Bob, > > Can you give everyone a summary of who the TOP 8 people > in the world would be with respect to the .FCN TLD ? > > ?:? .FCN > 5 ____________________ > 3 ____________________ > 6 ____________________ > 1 - Bob Allisat - bob at wtv.net > 2 ____________________ > 7 ____________________ > 4 ____________________ > 8 ____________________ > > Also, > Do you plan to apply to be included in the Root > Name Servers controlled by the NEW IANA ? > > http://www.iana.org/comments-mail/maillist.html > > > > Jim Fleming > Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com > 1998 - The Year of the C+@ > IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM > > > -- > DOMAIN-POLICY administrivia should be sent to <listserv at lists.internic.net> > To unsubscribe send a message with only one line "SIGNOFF DOMAIN-POLICY" > For more help regarding Listserv commands send the one line "HELP" > -- William X. Walsh, Director, Network Operations TJ Network Services william at tjns.tj http://www.tjns.tj Domain Name Services at http://www.fastnames.tj Email Services coming soon! -- DOMAIN-POLICY administrivia should be sent to <listserv at lists.internic.net> To unsubscribe send a message with only one line "SIGNOFF DOMAIN-POLICY" For more help regarding Listserv commands send the one line "HELP" -------- Logged at Thu Jun 18 12:17:44 MET DST 1998 ---------

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.MALL TLD Application
by JimFleming＠unety.net 16 Jun '98

16 Jun '98

0a. (N)ew (M)odify (D)elete....: New 0b. Auth Scheme................: 0c. Auth Info..................: 1. Comments...................: Application for Top Level Domain 2. Complete Domain Name.......: .MALL Organization Using Domain Name 3a. Organization Name..........: Unir Corporation 3b. Street Address.............: One Naperville Plaza 3c. City.......................: Naperville 3d. State......................: IL 3e. Postal Code................: 60563 3f. Country....................: USA Administrative Contact 4a. NIC Handle (if known)......: JF553 4b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: I 4c. Name (Last, First).........: Fleming, Jim 4d. Organization Name..........: Unir Corporation 4e. Street Address.............: One Naperville Plaza 4f. City.......................: Naperville 4g. State......................: IL 4h. Postal Code................: 60563 4i. Country....................: USA 4j. Phone Number...............: 630-505-5801 4k. Fax Number.................: 630-717-1072 4l. E-Mailbox..................: JimFleming at unir.com Technical Contact 5a. NIC Handle (if known)......: JF553 5b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: I 5c. Name (Last, First).........: Fleming, Jim 5d. Organization Name..........: UNETY Systems, Inc. 5e. Street Address.............: 184 Shuman Blvd. #100 5f. City.......................: Naperville 5g. State......................: IL 5h. Postal Code................: 60563 5i. Country....................: USA 5j. Phone Number...............: 630-306-0600 5k. Fax Number.................: 630-305-3277 5l. E-Mailbox..................: JimFleming at unety.net Billing Contact 6a. NIC Handle (if known)......: 6b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: I 6c. Name (Last, First).........: Cooney, Virginia 6d. Organization Name..........: Unir Corporation 6e. Street Address.............: One Naperville Plaza 6f. City.......................: Naperville 6g. State......................: IL 6h. Postal Code................: 60563 6i. Country....................: USA 6j. Phone Number...............: 630-505-5801 6k. Fax Number.................: 630-717-1072 6l. E-Mailbox..................: gcooney at unir.com Prime Name Server 7a. Primary Server Hostname....: NS.UNIR.COM 7b. Primary Server Netaddress..: 207.32.159.1 Secondary Name Server(s) 8a. Secondary Server Hostname..: NS.UNETY.NET 8b. Secondary Server Netaddress: 207.32.128.1 Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Wed Jun 17 11:06:31 MET DST 1998 ---------

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Imagine the IAB as a CEO and 15 Person Board
by JimFleming＠unety.net 16 Jun '98

16 Jun '98

Here is another way to look at the IAB and the situation that is developing after the unfortunate decision on the part of the U.S. Government to toss the DNS hot potatoe back to Jon Postel. The U.S. Government's White Paper calls for a CEO and a 15 person Board. Let's imagine that Jon Postel is the "CEO" and the other 15 members of the IAB are the Board. Let's also imagine that this has been the structure of the IANA Inc. for years and that fair and impartial decisions have been made about new TLDs and /8 allocations. NOW...imagine that a transition is taking place. Imagine that each stakeholder is required to line up behind one of the Board members to vote on two things: 1. The new replacement for that Board member 2. The selection of a new CEO Imagine that people lined up as follows...with some imaginary reasons shown in the parenthesis. Imagine that everyone has to fit somewhere under the 15 Board members. <http://www.isi.edu/iab/members.html> "Hypothetical CEO" - Jon Postel -- postel at isi.edu -- IANA -- RFC Editor 1. Brian Carpenter -- brian at hursley.ibm.com -- IAB Chair 2. Steve Bellovin -- smb at research.att.com 3. Jon Crowcroft -- J.Crowcroft at cs.ucl.ac.uk Jim Dixon - jdd at matthew.uk1.vbc.net United Kingdom 4. Steve Deering -- deering at cisco.com 5. Ned Freed -- Ned.Freed at innosoft.com 6. Tony Hain -- tonyhain at microsoft.com Chris Ambler - cambler at iodesign.com (Microsoft employee) Bill Gates and the Remainder of Microsoft 7. Tim Howes -- howes at netscape.com 8. Erik Huizer -- Erik.Huizer at sec.nl 9. Cyndi Jung -- cmj at 3Com.com 10. John Klensin -- klensin at mail1.reston.mci.net -- Liaison to the IESG Vinton Cerf - vcerf at mci.net (MCI) Don Heath - heath at isoc.org (ex-MCI) 11. Robert Moskowitz -- rgm at icsa.net 12. Charlie Perkins -- charles.perkins at sun.com Jeff Williams - jwkckid1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (Java Programmer) 13. Fred Baker -- fred at cisco.com -- IETF/IESG Chair Einar Stefferud - stef at nma.com (IETF) 14. Keith Moore -- "moore at cs.utk.edu -- Liaison from the IESG Craig Simon - cls at flywheel.com (PhD Student) 15. Abel Weinrib -- AWeinrib at ibeam.jf.intel.com -- IRTF Chair, IAB Executive Director OK....I hope you made it this far...given the entire world lined up behind the 15 Board members plus Jon Postel, how would you evolve the system ? I hope this encourages people to think about specific plans and not hypothetical, meta-physical, plans. Now is the time to get down to details... Jim Fleming Unir Corporation - http://www.unir.com 1998 - The Year of the C+@ IS Coordinator for the AM Radio Station Registry - http://www.DOT.AM -------- Logged at Tue Jun 16 11:02:13 MET DST 1998 ---------

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