RE: First draft for the charter
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:30:26 +0200 (CEST) From: "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" <henk@ripe.net>
I guess one of the major concerns of this WG could/should be the coordinated fight against (D)DoS attacks, which are attaining scaring quality and efficiency those days.
Probably, this is a mixture of technical stuff and dealing with (ab)users of the infrastructure. In the latter case, this is more a "user level security" issue that belongs in Anti-Spam.
Dear Henk, security issues will _always_ have to do with abusers, otherwise you won't need security ;-} And I won't play down DDoS as a "user level security" issue any longer because the used techniques are powerful enough to abuse and turn out significant parts of the Internet infrastructure, for some time at least.
However, it is definitely something to be discussed somewhere, so let's put it on the to-do list for the group and decide later.
It's no longer a matter for discussion and deciding later, it's a matter which should be raised to the highest possible awareness, also in the RIPE region, IMHO. And it's definitly a matter for co-ordinated efforts, any input and complements from other groups should be appreciated and advertised, of course. Thanks for the charter, which is apparently wide enough for dealing with most aspects DDoS attacks. CP
Dear Christian,
From: "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" <henk@ripe.net>
However, it is definitely something to be discussed somewhere, so let's put it on the to-do list for the group and decide later.
It's no longer a matter for discussion and deciding later, it's a matter which should be raised to the highest possible awareness, also in the RIPE region, IMHO. And it's definitly a matter for co-ordinated efforts, any input and complements from other groups should be appreciated and advertised, of course.
I fully agree. I think I wasn't too clear in my previous posting. What I wanted to say was: Yes, this topic deserves attention and co-ordinated efforts. Therefore, there should be a place in the RIPE community where it can be discussed. Since there is no clear WG dealing with this, let's put on the workplan for this group and decide later if this is the (most) appropriate WG for it. Henk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal@ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As long as you don't tell your friends how I played the hand, then I won't tell my friends how you defended it. (Anonymous)
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