denis walker wrote on 30/07/2026 18:20:
> You are assuming i meant the RIPE NCC has absolute authority. This is a
> self regulating industry where we make the rules based on consensus
> policy. Anyone can propose any change on any mailing list. If a hand
> full of people say yes, then the rules are changed and everyone must
> comply. So it's the RIPE community that has absolute authority over the
> rules. (For now...)
Denis,
What you wrote was this:
> Just as Address Policy limits sub-assignments under contract, we have
> the absolute authority to limit malicious routing behaviors.
I think this would be more accurate as:
Just as Address Policy limits sub-assignments under contract, we have the absolute authority to limit malicious abuse behaviors under the same contract.
Just to avoid any misunderstanding, it's probably worth pointing out
that limited authority to limit malicious routing behaviors would be the
purview of national parliaments. Neither the RIPE Community nor the
RIPE NCC have this authority. I'm unclear why the term "absolute
authority" was introduced into the conversation because this is a
concept that doesn't generally exist in non-totalitarian societies.
> The reason LIRs do not process abuse reports is because RIPE policy
> currently makes it entirely free to ignore them. We can only fix this
> by creating a clear, contractual incentive where permitting systemic
> abuse carries the risk of registry closure.
You might need to zoom out a bit on this one, but there are plenty of
reasons that organisations don't process abuse reports.
Ok 'One of the reasons...' and 'Where this reason applies, we can only fix this...'
Also, it's something of an overclaim to say that only the RIPE Community
can fix this, and only by creating a policy which mandates LIR closure
for non-compliance.
It is not only the RIPE Community that can fix this. The EU/EC can fix it with legislation. It would be preferable for this industry if this community can, finally, take some real action. The simple policy I proposed does not mandate anything about closure. But that is the ultimate sanction for any LIR that is in persistent violation of RIPE policies.
cheers
denis
Nick