lately, i am getting flak about ROV not providing protection from this or that malicious attack. indeed it does not. in the ROV design, we DELIBERATELY did NOT try to cover malicious attacks. we also did not try to solve world hunger. repeat 20 times: "ROV is not a security mechanism. it is only meant to ameliorate accidental misconfigurations." yes, a screwdriver sucks as a hammer. we do seem to see that route mis-originations are propagating less widely; and presume this is due to ROV, especially in top tier providers. this is good. and once more for good luck: "ROV is not a security mechanism. it is only meant to ameliorate accidental misconfigurations." randy