RE: Strange information in different routing regestries?
Subj: Strange information in different routing regestries?
Well, "strange" ... ? Some organisations decided to run Routing Registries in order to support their mission and/or their own operational environment. In general, there is no mechanism to synchronise duplicate or multiple parallel entries when an update is made to _one_ of the registries. It is up to the user/maintainer of a certain block of addresses (or his or her up-stream ISP(s)) to (manually) keep those entries up-to-date or to get them removed - whatever is appropriate.
Is this normal?
I wouldn't dare to classify what you c/should regard as normal" :-) Cheers, _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 04:59:05PM +0100, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
Subj: Strange information in different routing regestries?
Well, "strange" ... ?
Some organisations decided to run Routing Registries in order to support their mission and/or their own operational environment.
In general, there is no mechanism to synchronise duplicate or multiple parallel entries when an update is made to _one_ of the registries.
There could be at least one mechanism to prevent creation of duplicate/wrong records in Routing Registries - to limit creation of entries only to limited set of inetnum/as-num ranges.
It is up to the user/maintainer of a certain block of addresses (or his or her up-stream ISP(s)) to (manually) keep those entries up-to-date or to get them removed - whatever is appropriate.
Sorry for may be so stupid question, but are there any documents which describe relations between Routing Registries, Regional Internet Registries and ICANN in the view of one distributed, non contradicted Routing Policies Database ?
Is this normal?
I wouldn't dare to classify what you c/should regard as normal" :-)
Cheers, _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-- Regards, Vladimir.
Vladimir A. Jakovenko wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 04:59:05PM +0100, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
Subj: Strange information in different routing regestries?
Well, "strange" ... ?
Some organisations decided to run Routing Registries in order to support their mission and/or their own operational environment.
In general, there is no mechanism to synchronise duplicate or multiple parallel entries when an update is made to _one_ of the registries.
Ther can't be duplicates. At least one attribute has to be different. And how would you what "false" or "right" is. Only syntax checking is done. Not even simplest form of semantic checkings like consistency of prefixes. You ay well add x.y.78.0/22.
There could be at least one mechanism to prevent creation of duplicate/wrong records in Routing Registries - to limit creation of entries only to limited set of inetnum/as-num ranges.
It is up to the user/maintainer of a certain block of addresses (or his or her up-stream ISP(s)) to (manually) keep those entries up-to-date or to get them removed - whatever is appropriate.
Sorry for may be so stupid question, but are there any documents which describe relations between Routing Registries, Regional Internet Registries and ICANN in the view of one distributed, non contradicted Routing Policies Database ?
AFAIK there are no documents. Regards, -- Arnold
In message <002901c1638f$e9d68db0$0390a8c0@nb1>, "Nipper, Arnold" writes:
Vladimir A. Jakovenko wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 04:59:05PM +0100, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
Subj: Strange information in different routing regestries?
Well, "strange" ... ?
Some organisations decided to run Routing Registries in order to support their mission and/or their own operational environment.
In general, there is no mechanism to synchronise duplicate or multiple parallel entries when an update is made to _one_ of the registries.
Ther can't be duplicates. At least one attribute has to be different. And how would you what "false" or "right" is. Only syntax checking is done. Not even simplest form of semantic checkings like consistency of prefixes. You ay well add x.y.78.0/22.
There could be at least one mechanism to prevent creation of duplicate/wrong records in Routing Registries - to limit creation of entries only to limited set of inetnum/as-num ranges.
It is up to the user/maintainer of a certain block of addresses (or his or her up-stream ISP(s)) to (manually) keep those entries up-to-date or to get them removed - whatever is appropriate.
Sorry for may be so stupid question, but are there any documents which describe relations between Routing Registries, Regional Internet Registries and ICANN in the view of one distributed, non contradicted Routing Policies Database ?
AFAIK there are no documents.
Hi, There is no one authoritive document that contains all policy information. There are several resources that can help you get an overview of what is available. A good start would be the following. http://www.radb.net/ http://www.irr.net/docs/list.html Please keep in mind that noone is required to maintain his/her routing policy in a RR. The following link has more info on why RR's are a good thing. http://www.irr.net/docs/faq.html Once you've gone through all that, and start looking at the documented policies, you may notice that some (most?) are not very accurate. There is a lot of outdated, and contradictory information in the RR's. Regards, - Anne Marcel Roorda Tel +31 20 711 60 00 Data Networks Fax +31 20 711 60 01 WorldCom Email marcel.roorda@wcom.com DC D1 46 BF 2F 85 95 FD B8 24 E8 8B EE 2E 9C 72
Vladimir A. Jakovenko wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 04:59:05PM +0100, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
Subj: Strange information in different routing regestries?
Well, "strange" ... ?
Some organisations decided to run Routing Registries in order to support their mission and/or their own operational environment.
In general, there is no mechanism to synchronise duplicate or multiple parallel entries when an update is made to _one_ of the registries.
There could be at least one mechanism to prevent creation of duplicate/wrong records in Routing Registries - to limit creation of entries only to limited set of inetnum/as-num ranges.
It is up to the user/maintainer of a certain block of addresses (or his or her up-stream ISP(s)) to (manually) keep those entries up-to-date or to get them removed - whatever is appropriate.
Sorry for may be so stupid question, but are there any documents which describe relations between Routing Registries, Regional Internet Registries and ICANN in the view of one distributed, non contradicted Routing Policies Database ?
You may want to have a look at RFC2725 and RFC2769. The RIPE Database implements the first one. Regards, Andrei Robachevsky RIPE NCC
Is this normal?
I wouldn't dare to classify what you c/should regard as normal" :-)
Cheers, _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Andrei Robachevsky -
Anne Marcel Roorda -
Nipper, Arnold -
Vladimir A. Jakovenko -
Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet