James Aldridge wrote:
Attached is a first draft of the minutes of the two Routing WG sessions at RIPE 46 last week. Please let me have any corrections, additions, etc.
Somethine seemed to go wrong with the formatting of that version. Including a new version in-line... James * * * D R A F T * * * Minutes of the Routing Working Group held at RIPE 46, Amsterdam, Tuesday, 2nd & Wednesday, 3rd September 2003 Session 1: * Administrativia (Joao Damas) Chair: Joao Damas Scribe: James Aldridge, RIPE NCC Minutes from R45: Circulated a few days ago; no comments -> approved! Actions from R45: None * RPSLng Update (Joao Damas) - New draft (draft-blunk-rpslng-01.txt); includes input from previous discussions. Last Call went out last week. Next stage, if approved, is to ask IESG to move this document to "Proposed Standard". * Bidirectional Forwarding Detector (Dave Ward, Cisco) BFD: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection Dave Katz, Juniper; Dave Ward, Cisco "Forwarding Plane Failover Detection" Internet Drafts: draft-katz-ward-bfd-01.txt draft-katz-ward-bfd-v4v6-1hop-00.txt Email list: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Questions: "What's vendor response like?" Very good; under pressure to get this implemented quickly. Cisco, Juniper + some switch vendors working on it! "If running over unencrypted tunnels, does discriminator give enough info to demux and authenticate packet?" No; can be spoofed!. * Geographical aggregation for multihoming in IPv6 (Iljitsch van Beijnum) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/ ripe46-routing-geo-aggregation.pdf (update since RIPE-44 & Vienna IETF) - proposed interim solution for IPv6 multihoming - provider internal Questions: "Address allocations per ISP?" No; allocated globally. Session 2: * RIS Update (Matthew Williams, RIPE NCC) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/ ripe46-routing-ris.pdf Questions: "myASn: exact match only or more specific too?" More specific too (with exception capabilities in beta version). "myASn: just 'my' ASn or 'somebody else's' ASn too?" Any AS. * Verification of Zebra as a BGP Measurement Instrument (Hong Wei Kong; presented by Lance Tatman, Agilent Labs) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/ ripe46-routing-zebra-bgp.pdf Hong Wei Kong <hong-wei_kong@agilent.com> Questions: "When will 'recording tool' be ready?" At least 6 months until beta... "Will 'recording tool' allow playback?" (feature request) "What outstanding Zebra bugs?" Zebra should separate receiving and dumping threads; general structural problem within Zebra. Feedback required on demand for a route recorder. * Comparative analysis of BGP update metrics (Alex Tudor, Agilent Labs) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/ ripe46-routing-bgp-metrics.pdf Overview of math on OHP: - Quantile-quantile plots - Cross-correlation No questions following presentation * The Netlantis Project (Pascal Gloor, Philippe Bourcier) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/ ripe46-routing-netlantis.pdf "real-time" only, no historical data * Any Other Business Question to the Routing WG from MCI regarding routing setups. In particular, as a global ISP using data from the RIPE database and other registries. - Inconsistant info in different registries - Can't determine which is correct - What to tell customers - where to store data - US data in European database? - Auto-generated router setups - What is the position of RIPE / other areas Shane Kerr, RIPE NCC: RIPE Routing Registry has no geographical restrictions but provides authentication for local assignments only. RIPE NCC can't require registration; only provides the tool. Suggest RIPE document on how to use routing registry. Routing Registry Consistency Checking (RRCC) - live bgp data (from RIS project) compared against routing registry - 40% of RR objects not announced. Tools to show those route objects so users can delete them. Is anyone using auto-generated config from the routing registry without manual checking? Input requested from wg.