Re: [ris-int] Re: [Fwd: backup bottlenecks and possible improvements]
Daniel.
It appears that particular equipment (netapps filer), which is easy to operate, becomes too expensive. it might be a good idea to invest a little ops time in a cheap storage boxes for stuff that does not need filer-quality storage.
I'll keep it short: For over one year we have cheap IDE disks in an EMC-CX300. And our F810c (=NetApp at singel258) is no longer in use as backup-medium. Gerard.
On 07.09 10:56, Gerard Leurs wrote:
Daniel.
It appears that particular equipment (netapps filer), which is easy to operate, becomes too expensive. it might be a good idea to invest a little ops time in a cheap storage boxes for stuff that does not need filer-quality storage.
I'll keep it short: For over one year we have cheap IDE disks in an EMC-CX300. And our F810c (=NetApp at singel258) is no longer in use as backup-medium.
So why not put the RIS data there?
Daniel wrote:
On 07.09 10:56, Gerard Leurs wrote:
Daniel.
It appears that particular equipment (netapps filer), which is easy to operate, becomes too expensive. it might be a good idea to invest a little ops time in a cheap storage boxes for stuff that does not need filer-quality storage.
I'll keep it short: For over one year we have cheap IDE disks in an EMC-CX300. And our F810c (=NetApp at singel258) is no longer in use as backup-medium.
So why not put the RIS data there?
Maybe we have a communication problem. I thought that Ops was annoyed at the cost of supporting RIS, and was trying to help. It seems like Gerard doesn't really think RIS is a problem, because it is only 13% or so of our backup space. So even saving 25% of that doesn't really matter. In which case we should take this off the ris-int list, and Ops should just arrange to buy as much additional storage as they need in whatever way they want. We'll probably still switch to bzip2, as this is helpful for anyone downloading the raw data. We will co-ordinate with Ops, of course. And of course Ops will never complain about people wasting space, unless they are willing to hear the suggestions of cheap & easy ways to provide more space. ;) -- Shane
Gerard,
I'll keep it short: For over one year we have cheap IDE disks in an EMC-CX300. And our F810c (=NetApp at singel258) is no longer in use as backup-medium.
If we use cheap disks, then why is every request for a few Gb of disk-space answered with "we do not have space on the filer"? Last week it was space for the kroot traces (1Gb/week), this week it is the RIS... Henk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look here junior, don't you be so happy. And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad. (Tom Verlaine)
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