
BTW, you should also link to de-cix. http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/np/ris/de-cix.html What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html? I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo opportunity for "other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember, the RIS is a part of a whole package: +++ Useful Links * RIS Home Page * myASn * RISwhois * BGPlay * More RIS Tools * Weekly RIS Statistics Report * RIS Raw Data * RIS Looking Glass Other Services and Projects * K-root Local Mirror Instances * Test Traffic Measurements (TTM) * RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring (dnsmon) * Deployment of Internet Security Infrastructures (DISI) +++ Cheers, Matthew ---
Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) Customer Liaison Engineer RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

Matthew, Why do not we look at those on Wed, when we look at new WWW? Arife On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 06:45:31PM +0200, Matthew Williams wrote:
BTW, you should also link to de-cix.
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/np/ris/de-cix.html
What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html?
I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo opportunity for "other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember, the RIS is a part of a whole package:
+++
Useful Links
* RIS Home Page * myASn * RISwhois * BGPlay * More RIS Tools * Weekly RIS Statistics Report
* RIS Raw Data * RIS Looking Glass
Other Services and Projects
* K-root Local Mirror Instances * Test Traffic Measurements (TTM) * RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring (dnsmon) * Deployment of Internet Security Infrastructures (DISI)
+++
Cheers, Matthew
---
Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) Customer Liaison Engineer RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

I know you didn't mean it that way, but, after all the hassle with Comms, I'm a little unhappy about this. There was plenty of time for SED/Shane to give input on the risintro page from the point that Rene made his suggestion about a 'special' announcement page for RRC12.
What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html?
I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo
"other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember,
opportunity for the RIS is a
part of a whole package:
Please be so kind and comment on above. I want to understand what your ideas were when you changed this (probably important for our managers too ;) Cheers, Matthew
-----Original Message----- From: Arife Vural [mailto:arife@ripe.net] Sent: 16 August 2004 18:59 To: Matthew Williams Cc: ris-int@ripe.net Subject: Re: risintro
Matthew,
Why do not we look at those on Wed, when we look at new WWW?
Arife
BTW, you should also link to de-cix.
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/np/ris/de-cix.html
What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html?
I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo opportunity for "other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember,
On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 06:45:31PM +0200, Matthew Williams wrote: the RIS is a
part of a whole package:
+++
Useful Links
* RIS Home Page * myASn * RISwhois * BGPlay * More RIS Tools * Weekly RIS Statistics Report
* RIS Raw Data * RIS Looking Glass
Other Services and Projects
* K-root Local Mirror Instances * Test Traffic Measurements (TTM) * RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring (dnsmon) * Deployment of Internet Security Infrastructures (DISI)
+++
Cheers, Matthew
---
Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) Customer Liaison Engineer RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Matthew Williams wrote:
I know you didn't mean it that way, but, after all the hassle with Comms, I'm a little unhappy about this. There was plenty of time for SED/Shane to give input on the risintro page from the point that Rene made his suggestion about a 'special' announcement page for RRC12.
What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html?
I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo
"other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember,
opportunity for the RIS is a
part of a whole package:
Please be so kind and comment on above. I want to understand what your ideas were when you changed this (probably important for our managers too ;)
Sorry to interfere, but I would prefer that we showed relevant links to other services in announcements like this. If a person is interested in one of them, he might be interested in other ones as well. Henk
Cheers, Matthew
-----Original Message----- From: Arife Vural [mailto:arife@ripe.net] Sent: 16 August 2004 18:59 To: Matthew Williams Cc: ris-int@ripe.net Subject: Re: risintro
Matthew,
Why do not we look at those on Wed, when we look at new WWW?
Arife
BTW, you should also link to de-cix.
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/np/ris/de-cix.html
What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html?
I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo opportunity for "other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember,
On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 06:45:31PM +0200, Matthew Williams wrote: the RIS is a
part of a whole package:
+++
Useful Links
* RIS Home Page * myASn * RISwhois * BGPlay * More RIS Tools * Weekly RIS Statistics Report
* RIS Raw Data * RIS Looking Glass
Other Services and Projects
* K-root Local Mirror Instances * Test Traffic Measurements (TTM) * RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring (dnsmon) * Deployment of Internet Security Infrastructures (DISI)
+++
Cheers, Matthew
---
Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) Customer Liaison Engineer RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/
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BTW, you should also link to de-cix.
From where?
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/np/ris/de-cix.html
What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html?
It looks OK.
I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo opportunity for "other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember, the RIS is a part of a whole package:
I do not have any problems with promoto other NP services. If you check new pages, you would see the link other NP services, and if you think we should add more, we can do it. I do not see any problem about it. Old WWW pages, I have not done any structural changes. Sorry, I'm totally confused, am I missed any e-mail thread? Arife
+++
Useful Links
* RIS Home Page * myASn * RISwhois * BGPlay * More RIS Tools * Weekly RIS Statistics Report
* RIS Raw Data * RIS Looking Glass
Other Services and Projects
* K-root Local Mirror Instances * Test Traffic Measurements (TTM) * RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring (dnsmon) * Deployment of Internet Security Infrastructures (DISI)
+++
Cheers, Matthew
---
Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) Customer Liaison Engineer RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

BTW, you should also link to de-cix.
From where?
Somewhere on the page, see: http://www.ripe.net/ris/rrc12.html for ideas.
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/np/ris/de-cix.html
What was wrong with http://www.ripe.net/ris/risintro.html?
It looks OK.
So why the change?
I think it's a shame that you have dropped this promo opportunity for "other services", and promo lies with NP, no?. Remember, the RIS is a part of a whole package:
I do not have any problems with promoto other NP services. If you check new pages, you would see the link other NP services, and if you think we should add more, we can do it. I do not see any problem about it.
Fine.
Old WWW pages, I have not done any structural changes.
I don't understand what you're saying ...
Sorry, I'm totally confused, am I missed any e-mail thread?
Probably, see attached mail. /Matthew
Arife
+++
Useful Links
* RIS Home Page * myASn * RISwhois * BGPlay * More RIS Tools * Weekly RIS Statistics Report
* RIS Raw Data * RIS Looking Glass
Other Services and Projects
* K-root Local Mirror Instances * Test Traffic Measurements (TTM) * RIPE NCC DNS Monitoring (dnsmon) * Deployment of Internet Security Infrastructures (DISI)
+++
Cheers, Matthew
---
Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) Customer Liaison Engineer RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

Hi Matthew, I really do not know which changes you are talking about and discuss this issue by e-mail does not make thing easy. I suggest you to look at this issue tomorrow's meeting or you can drop by today any time and we look at it together and fix it whatever is wrong. Arife

After chat with Matthew on the phone, it looks there is a misunderstanding.
This is not the page I prepared. It looks it was prepared by Comms. Arife

Thanks for clearing this up. Sent mail to Henk with both you and Shane in cc. Cheers, Matthew
-----Original Message----- From: ris-int-admin@ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Arife Vural Sent: 17 August 2004 11:23 To: Matthew Williams Cc: ris-int@ripe.net Subject: Re: [ris-int] risintro
After chat with Matthew on the phone, it looks there is a misunderstanding.
This is not the page I prepared. It looks it was prepared by Comms.
Arife
participants (3)
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Arife Vural
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Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE NCC)
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Matthew Williams