I do not think it would cause confusion. Anyway, when we do the changes, we should tell our users rrc08 is moved to PAIX because of not enough peers at MAE-West.
What about if they _don't_ get the message? Please, Arife... Forget about the dbase naming schema. If I download raw data from repository for rrc08, it should only contain data from peers at Mae-West. Nothing else. Anything else would be confusing to the user, who isn't going to keep track of when rrc08 was moved to another location. So we decommision rrc08 (only the name, not hw) at the Mae-West, move the hw to Paix as rrcwhatever. Now the user only needs to know that rrc08 data is from peers at the Mae-West, and rrcwhatever from peers at Paix. The hardware is the same, but the _purpose_ of the hw is completely different. Renaming the box makes that _very_ clear to the user. Ask James when he gets back from hols. I'm sure he'll agree :) Cheers, Matthew
-----Original Message----- From: ris-int-admin@ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Arife Vural Sent: 16 August 2004 19:06 To: Matthew Williams Cc: ops@ripe.net; ris-int@ripe.net; 'James Aldridge'; 'Bruce Campbell' Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102454] [henk@ripe.net: Re: [ris-int] Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX]
Sorry, I don't see your point. This case is exactly the same as with rrc09:
Based on the principle that an integer relates to a particular collection point irrespective of hardware, then keeping the same number doesn't make sense, and might even cause confusion among RIS users.
I do not think it would cause confusion. Anyway, when we do the changes, we should tell our users rrc08 is moved to PAIX because of not enough peers at MAE-West.
At first _I_ didn't agree, but Rene and Lorenzo managed to
convince me
that they were right ;)
:-)
I think I should chat with Rene, and Lorenzo to get some tips to convince you :-)
Arife
Cheers, Matthew
-----Original Message----- From: ris-int-admin@ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Arife Vural Sent: 16 August 2004 17:37 To: Matthew Williams Cc: ops@ripe.net; ris-int@ripe.net; 'James Aldridge'; 'Bruce Campbell' Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102454] [henk@ripe.net: Re: [ris-int] Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX]
I think we had this discussion before re: rrc09, and then we came to a different conclusion. At least, we should be consequent in order to cause minimal confusion. What changed?
rrc09 was bit different than rrc08. rrc09 did not have DB, rrc08 has and I like to continue to use the same DB when it moves to PAIX. And purpose of rrc08 was getting the view from West Coast and we will be available still at the West Coast. I do not think it's useful to split rawdata just because we will change IX at the same area.
Arife