March 2005 - Ris-int - mailman.ripe.net

Re: [ris-int] Re: NCC#2005024029 query parameters missing from RIS cgi URLs
by Rene Wilhelm 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

> > indeed, a good and easy way to get the URL, but perhaps a few extra words > > that the copy should be done via browser's popup menu? > I have not introduced pop-up menus for the RIS, by now. I prefer to > leave it like that, later if we will get any feedback or questions > about it, then we could add pop up or more explanation either help > pages or the form itself. no, no, I was not talking about pop ups done by RIS website; only about the menu that appears when right clicking on a URL, the one where you can choose "copy link location". I thought of mentioning something like "copy ... using right mouse button" But then again, this is only my view; now that I know how to copy, it's fine with me. Maybe other users don't have problems and are already experienced in copying URLs this way? -- Rene

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Re: [ris-int] Re: NCC#2005024029 query parameters missing from RIS cgi URLs
by Rene Wilhelm 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

>> but _how_ do you copy the link from the bottom? the left mouse button >> just takes me to a new risearch-result.html page. Am I overlooking something? > I do not know how to copy from the bottom of the page, I do not think > here is a way to do .. > was talking to go "Copy the link" and click "the link" with left button > and choose "Copy link location" option and copy the URL. ah, but that's the *right* button for me! :) indeed, a good and easy way to get the URL, but perhaps a few extra words that the copy should be done via browser's popup menu? -- Rene

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Re: [ris-int] Re: NCC#2005024029 query parameters missing from RIS cgi URLs
by Rene Wilhelm 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

>> The links to IPv6 RIS DB queries from RISwhois work like a charm, >> even when cookies were still blocked :-) >> > Hm, I'm using another module WWW::Mechanize to run risearch for > riswhois. It looks it's doing something strange. isn't it that in the case of riswhois, the query is done by halfweg, so no need to set a cookie in user's browser? >> The risearch-result page includes the line "Copy the link ..." >> and when you point the mouse to it, you see first part of the URL >> in the bottom of netscape's window, but when you click on it, >> the query gets executed and you again get a risearch-result page. > With Firefox it looks ok, gives all the URL at the bottom. I thought > it would be more convenient for user just click left mouse button, > and copy the link if they like to get the URL. but _how_ do you copy the link from the bottom? the left mouse button just takes me to a new risearch-result.html page. Am I overlooking something? -- Rene

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Re: NCC#2005024029 query parameters missing from RIS cgi URLs
by Rene Wilhelm 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hi Arife, > I made those changes you asked for including RISwhois and Cookie check. > Please have a look and let me know if you would have any comments. The results in the case blocked cookies is short and to the point. perhaps the standard header and footer should be added to the page, but the message itself is clear, no confusion possible. The links to IPv6 RIS DB queries from RISwhois work like a charm, even when cookies were still blocked :-) As for the referencing URL, that's still a bit problematic. The risearch-result page includes the line "Copy the link ..." and when you point the mouse to it, you see first part of the URL in the bottom of netscape's window, but when you click on it, the query gets executed and you again get a risearch-result page. Persistent users can find the URL by checking the source of the page (so a big improvement already!), but perhaps it's a bit more user friendly if the "copy the link" part would take you to a page which lists the /risearch.do URL instead of executing it? -- Rene P.S. Don't forget to announce the new CGIs when you're finished; Some folk out there will be happy to see IPv6 queries to the RIS DB are now possible!

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Re: NCC#2005024029 query parameters missing from RIS cgi URLs
by RIPE SW Bugs 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hi Rene, I made those changes you asked for including RISwhois and Cookie check. Please have a look and let me know if you would have any comments. Arife Link for URL with args, cookie check and On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:10:36 +0100, Rene Wilhelm wrote: > Hi, > > The new CGIs on www.ris.ripe.net have one important thing missing: > they do not support entering parameters via the URL and they do > not report the entered parameters either. > > For example, something like > > http://www.ris.ripe.net/perl-risapp/risearch.html?net=192.228.79.201&prefty… > > no longer works, it just comes back with the default form. > > This makes it impossible to discuss RIS results via e-mail, something we > will need and have used in the past when reporting on routing incidents > (e.g. triggered by users' request to explain DNSMon or TTM observations). > In the absence of URLs with query params, it is also difficult for network > engineers to share RIS observations with their colleagues. > > So, could you have a look and fix the CGIs? might be as trivial as > adding a method="get" to the html code. > > Thanks, > > -- Rene > > P.S. and while you're at it, you might want to run your pages through > the validator at http://validator.w3.org/ Currently, risearch.html > is not valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional.

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[Fwd: Heads up: Long AS-sets announced in the next few days]
by Lorenzo Colitti 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

FYI: Here is a copy of the announcement I sent out to NANOG, the routing-wg, and ris-users warning them of impending long AS-sets. After discussion we felt that it was best to proceed with a little more caution. :-) Cheers, Lorenzo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Heads up: Long AS-sets announced in the next few days Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:49:50 +0100 From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo(a)ripe.net> To: nanog(a)merit.edu, routing-wg(a)ripe.net, ris-users(a)ripe.net Hi, as announced to the RIPE routing working group mailing list [1] and elsewhere, over the next few days the Computer Networks research group at Roma Tre University, in collaboration with the RIPE NCC RIS project, will be performing experiments involving announcements with large AS-sets in the AS-path. We are doing this to test innovative network discovery methodologies we developed to allow ISPs to determine how their prefixes are seen by the rest of the Internet. The announcements will be for prefixes 84.205.73.0/24 and 84.205.89.0/24 and will originate in AS12654. We have been performing similar experiments over IPv6, in collaboration with the NAMEX internet exchange, since December 2004 with no ill effects; furthermore, our announcements are standard BGP, so conformant implementations should be able to process them, and very long AS-sets have already been observed in the past (e.g. [2], [3]). However, we want to be careful to avoid router bugs on legacy devices, old firmware versions and the like, so we are first sending out test announcements with progressively longer AS-sets. Should you encounter a problem with these advertisements, please let us know and we will withdraw them. The proposed timetable of the test announcements is as follows. 2005-03-04: 14:00 UTC: 10-element AS-set 14:30 UTC: withdrawal 16:00 UTC: 25-element AS-set 16:30 UTC: withdrawal and, if there are no problems: 2005-03-07: 14:00 UTC: 50-element AS-set 14:30 UTC: withdrawal 16:00 UTC: 100-element AS-set 16:30 UTC: withdrawal Note: For reference, the AS-sets already observed in [2] and [3] contained 123 and 124 ASes respectively. For questions/comments, please contact compunet(a)dia.uniroma3.it or lorenzo(a)ripe.net. Regards, Lorenzo Colitti On behalf of the Roma Tre Computer Networks Research group [1] http://www.ripe.net/ripe/maillists/archives/routing-wg/2005/msg00021.html [2] http://www.ripe.net/projects/ris/Talks/0101_RIPE38_AA/sld003.html [3] http://www.ripe.net/maillists/ncc-archives/ris-users/2002/msg00044.html -- --------------------------------------------------------- Lorenzo Colitti Ph.D student Computer Networks research group Roma Tre University colitti(a)dia.uniroma3.it +39-0655173215 ---------------------------------------------------------

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