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Re: [ris-int] RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Rene Wilhelm 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi, > > So to correct this, I suggest: > > > > 1. rm -rf /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myasntesting > > 2. mv /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myastesting > > /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myasntesting 3. restore the myasntesting > > list (all subscribers and settings) > > Steps 1&2 seem to be contradicting: > > 1. throw away newest and active archive > 2. copy old obsolete and inactive archive over the (now empty) current > archives. If you took 1 minute (or 30 seconds) to LOOK at these archives, you would see that myastesting has EVERYTHING from myastesting PLUS the stuff send to myasntesting myasntesting on the other hand ONLY has stuff send to myasntesting. so to preserve the history of the myas(n) testing list, one should keep myastesting. As I said, this is something that SHOULD have been done in the first place when the mailing list changed name. > Again, this messup has been corrected and for all I care the ticket is > closed for being a poor request. huh? the request seemed pretty clear to me. You can't expect users to know all the intricate details of the convoluted setup of mailing lists and their archives. -- Rene

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RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi Emil, I see, it was my fault all along for OPS doing something that I never requested. Ever seen the Fawlty Towers episode where Basil spanks himself on the bottom? ;) Anyway, that said, many thanks for fixing this. Much obliged :) As Rene points out, all I ever wanted was: - Eliminate the myastesting (no N) link on http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/. - I also doubt that we need the alias - myastesting (no N) - any longer. Can this be done without touching/deleting myasntesting (with N)? Kind regards, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: FLS Hotseat via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > Sent: 11 August 2004 19:00 > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > Hi Matthew, > > Jeannette has gone home, so this is 'hotseat' (Emil) speaking: > > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:30:10 +0200, "Matthew Williams" > <matthew(a)ripe.net> wrote: > > > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > > > This is not want I wanted. If anything was unclear, you should have > > gotten back to me before deleting something that I had > hoped would've > > been left untouched. > > Your first mail was a very poorly formatted forward of a forward of > a...etc. In fact you have not formulated a request.. If you > say we shoud have bounced it for being unclear, I totally agree! > > I am not at all surprised that it was not correctly > interpreted. Next time spend some time on making a clear > request please. > > On to the real issue: "myastesting" was an alias to > "myasNtesting", not a list in itself. To stop all confusion I > have put that alias back in place; nothing has disappeared, > nothing has changed, only time was wasted. > > This request will be closed. You can create a new one to > tell us what you really want. > > E m i l . > > > x7:emil:~ $ telnet birch 25 > Trying 193.0.1.96... > Connected to birch. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 birch.ripe.net ESMTP RIPE NCC Sendmail 8.12.10; Wed, 11 > Aug 2004 18:54:50 +0200 expn myastesting 250 2.1.5 > <myasntesting(a)lists.ripe.net> expn myasntesting 250 2.1.5 > <myasntesting(a)lists.ripe.net> quit 221 2.0.0 birch.ripe.net > closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. x7:emil:~ $ >

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Re: [ris-int] RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Rene Wilhelm 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hmm, this seems to have headed off in quite the wrong direction, a request to delete an obsolete mail archive resulting in removal of an active mail list :( To shed some light on the matter: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ lists both myasntesting and myastesting, the latter holding identical messages to myasntesting for at least all of 2004 All that Matthew wanted was the obsoleted myastesting (without 'n') to disappear from this listing and stop being a valid e-mail address. It appears that way back in the distant past, when the project was renamed from myAS to myASn and the myasntesting list took over from myastesting, some mistakes have been made in the archive setup: - the myastesting archive SHOULD have been renamed mysasntesting - the myastesting alias should NOT have continued archiving. So to correct this, I suggest: 1. rm -rf /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myasntesting 2. mv /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myastesting /ncc/maillists/archives/pub/myasntesting 3. restore the myasntesting list (all subscribers and settings) 4. (re)activate archiving of myasntesting -- Rene > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > This is not want I wanted. If anything was unclear, you should have gotten back to me before deleting something that I had hoped > would've been left untouched. > > Cheers, > Matthew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > Sent: 11 August 2004 18:22 > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > Subject: RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There has never been no myastesting. There's only an alias > > which points to > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > Tonight the systems will be synced and our mailserver will > > then not know of > > myastesting(a)ripe.net nor myasntesting(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Jean. > > #301 > > > > At 05:59 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi Jean, > > > > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > >Wait please, not _myasntesting_, see above it says > > _myastesting_ (w/o > > >'n'). > > > > > >Cheers, > > >Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 15:27 > > > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > > > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthew, > > > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > > > > Can this go too? > > > > myasn-bounce: /dev/null > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > Jean. > > > > > > > > At 03:02 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. > > > > > > > > > >Detailed description: > > > > >--------------------- > > > > > > > > > >[ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net > > [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On > > > > > > Behalf Of RIPE > > NCC Webmaster > > > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > > > > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > > > > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Subject: [ris-int] Re: > > > > > > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > > > > guess the > > > > > > request needs to head in their direction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > > > > > > * Hi Webbies, > > > > > > * > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > > * > > > > > > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > * > > > > > > * Cheers, > > > > > > * Matthew > > > > > > * > > > > > > * --- > > > > > > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > > > > > > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > > > > > > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > Matthew Williams > > > > > > >

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FW: [ris-int] RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Can the list be restored? Or can we do something so users mailing to the list don't just bounce? If you have any way of finding the subscribed folk again then that would be of great help. Cheers, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] > On Behalf Of Matthew Williams > Sent: 11 August 2004 18:30 > To: ops(a)ripe.net > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > Subject: [ris-int] RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > This is not want I wanted. If anything was unclear, you > should have gotten back to me before deleting something that > I had hoped would've been left untouched. > > Cheers, > Matthew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > Sent: 11 August 2004 18:22 > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > Subject: RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There has never been no myastesting. There's only an alias > > which points to > > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > > Tonight the systems will be synced and our mailserver will > > then not know of > > myastesting(a)ripe.net nor myasntesting(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Jean. > > #301 > > > > At 05:59 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > >Hi Jean, > > > > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > >Wait please, not _myasntesting_, see above it says > > _myastesting_ (w/o > > >'n'). > > > > > >Cheers, > > >Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 15:27 > > > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > > > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthew, > > > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > > > > Can this go too? > > > > myasn-bounce: /dev/null > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > Jean. > > > > > > > > At 03:02 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. > > > > > > > > > >Detailed description: > > > > >--------------------- > > > > > > > > > >[ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net > > [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On > > > > > > Behalf Of RIPE > > NCC Webmaster > > > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > > > > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > > > > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > > > > > > Subject: [ris-int] Re: > > > > > > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > > > > guess the > > > > > > request needs to head in their direction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > > > > > > * Hi Webbies, > > > > > > * > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > > * > > > > > > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > * > > > > > > * Cheers, > > > > > > * Matthew > > > > > > * > > > > > > * --- > > > > > > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > > > > > > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > > > > > > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > Matthew Williams > > > > > > >

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RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

> myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). This is not want I wanted. If anything was unclear, you should have gotten back to me before deleting something that I had hoped would've been left untouched. Cheers, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > Sent: 11 August 2004 18:22 > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > Subject: RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > Hi, > > There has never been no myastesting. There's only an alias > which points to > myasntesting. That's why I removed this list (myasntesting). > Tonight the systems will be synced and our mailserver will > then not know of > myastesting(a)ripe.net nor myasntesting(a)ripe.net > > > Jean. > #301 > > At 05:59 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi Jean, > > > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > >Wait please, not _myasntesting_, see above it says > _myastesting_ (w/o > >'n'). > > > >Cheers, > >Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 15:27 > > > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > > > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthew, > > > > > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > > > > > Can this go too? > > > myasn-bounce: /dev/null > > > > > > cheers, > > > Jean. > > > > > > At 03:02 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. > > > > > > > >Detailed description: > > > >--------------------- > > > > > > > >[ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net > [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On > > > > > Behalf Of RIPE > NCC Webmaster > > > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > > > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > > > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > > > > > Subject: [ris-int] Re: > > > > > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Matthew > > > > > > > > > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > > > guess the > > > > > request needs to head in their direction. > > > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > > > > > * Hi Webbies, > > > > > * > > > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > > > cross-references it (p > > > > > * lease verify). > > > > > * > > > > > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > * > > > > > * Cheers, > > > > > * Matthew > > > > > * > > > > > * --- > > > > > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > > > > > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > > > > > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > Matthew Williams > > > >

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Re: [ris-int] Re: myASn acc's
by Arife Vural 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi Matthew, I have updated the script, now it's at risops@halfweg:myasn/bin/add_myasn_user. It does few checks and also documentation is available at http://iii.ripe.net/sed/twiki/bin/view/Doc/RIS. Just for your info. I will remove the old versions. Please, send me the link for mailinglist and password as well to update the list. Arife

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RE: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi Jean, > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > cross-references it (p > > > * lease verify). > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. Wait please, not _myasntesting_, see above it says _myastesting_ (w/o 'n'). Cheers, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette Decades via RT [mailto:ops@ripe.net] > Sent: 11 August 2004 15:27 > To: matthew(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102308] R: myas go away > > > Hi Matthew, > > Removed list myasntesting (kept archives) and alias myastesting. > > Can this go too? > myasn-bounce: /dev/null > > cheers, > Jean. > > At 03:02 PM 8/11/2004 +0200, you wrote: > > > >Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. > > > >Detailed description: > >--------------------- > > > >[ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] On > > > Behalf Of RIPE NCC Webmaster > > > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > > > Subject: [ris-int] Re: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Matthew > > > > > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > guess the > > > request needs to head in their direction. > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > > > * Hi Webbies, > > > * > > > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > > > cross-references it (p > > > * lease verify). > > > * > > > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > * > > > * Cheers, > > > * Matthew > > > * > > > * --- > > > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > > > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > > > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > > > * > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > Matthew Williams >

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R: myas go away
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hereby I wish to request a service from Operations. Detailed description: --------------------- [ Please provide us with all relevant information ] > -----Original Message----- > From: ris-int-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin@ripe.net] > On Behalf Of RIPE NCC Webmaster > Sent: 11 August 2004 09:02 > To: Matthew Williams > Cc: ris-int(a)ripe.net > Subject: [ris-int] Re: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > > > Good Morning Matthew > > The mailing lists on Mailman are controlled by Ops, so I > guess the request needs to head in their direction. > > Adrian > > > > "Matthew Williams" <matthew(a)ripe.net> writes: > * Hi Webbies, > * > * Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting > cross-references it (p > * lease verify). > * > * http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ > * > * Cheers, > * Matthew > * > * --- > * > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > * > Customer Liaison Engineer > * > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/ > * > Regards, Matthew Williams

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http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi Webbies, Please get rid of myastesting. I believe myasntesting cross-references it (please verify). http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mail-archives/ Cheers, Matthew --- > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > Customer Liaison Engineer > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

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myASn documentation
by Matthew Williams 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi All, Please check: http://www.ris.ripe.net/myasn/help.html & http://www.ris.ripe.net/myasn/faq.html U: ris@12654 PW: risops And comment... Cheers, Matthew --- > Matthew Williams (MW243-RIPE) > Customer Liaison Engineer > RIPE NCC - http://www.ripe.net/np/

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