Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 06:13:38AM +0000, Kennedy, James wrote:

Well done to Callum for highlighting this issue. I also commend the /22 hoarding discussion. More should be done to address blatant RIPE abuse for monetary gain. Turning a blind eye is quite alarming.

Well, it's two different aspects that are mixed together here. One is "people managed to get large chunks of address space before the last-/8 policy kicked in, and got rich selling them" (Jump SRL is another example of this). There is not really anything we in address policy can do about this retroactively - and in any case, this is something that will certainly not happen again, as there are no big chunks to be received anymore (but of course the NCC will look into it if fraud happened, and the tax authorities might also be interested...) The other one is something we actually *can* do something as address policy community - reduce ongoing(!) unintended usage ("abuse") of the last-/8 policy. So here we are, and discuss 2015-01 :-) Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279