The redesigned www.ripe.net is now live
Dear colleagues, If you visit www.ripe.net today, you might notice some changes. For the past few months, we’ve been working on redesigning ripe.net, and we released the new version yesterday at approximately 18:00 UTC+1. Here are some of the major changes: • The design of the website has changed • The content management system has been changed from Plone to Wagtail • We migrated servers to make this switch • The website is now significantly more mobile and tablet friendly • We are using a new search engine on the website, so search results should be more relevant, and we will be investing time to make this experience even better • Accessibility has been improved, and we aim to align with WCAG 2.1 standards as soon as possible • Visitors should see some performance improvements, and we aim to continue adding improvements for usability and energy efficiency • The RIPE community is more prominent and easy to access from the top-level navigation under “community”, and we are applying a new community design to community-related pages: https://www.ripe.net/community/ The overall navigation of the website has not been significantly altered to ensure a smooth transition. We will be making more changes to the navigation to improve readability and discoverability. Many of you shared input in a survey and some of you joined us for user interviews at RIPE 86 and for conversations following my presentation at RIPE 87. Thank you for helping us through this process. While we have launched the newly redesigned website, with over 8,000 web pages migrated to the new platform, we know there will be fixes and tweaks needed in the weeks to come. If you notice any issues or have feedback, please let us know on the forum: https://forum.ripe.net/t/www-ripe-net-redesign-is-live/820 For anything urgent, please email us at webmaster@ripe.net Kind regards, Phillip Oldham (he/him) <poldham@ripe.net> Manager, Web Services RIPE NCC Stationsplein 11, 1012 AB Amsterdam
Hi Phillip,
• We are using a new search engine on the website, so search results should be more relevant, and we will be investing time to make this experience even better
About that: please find a way to make the RIPE DB search the dominant one again. I remember that this was an issue last time that the RIPE NCC redesigned the website, please don’t repeat the mistake of prioritising website search over database search. Cheers, Sander
Hi Philipp Hi Sander On 19.01.2024 16:51, Sander Steffann wrote:
please find a way to make the RIPE DB search the dominant one again.
I agree with this. I'm not much of a proficient user of the website. When I tried to use the database search yesterday (before reading this email thread today), I was very confused why there weren't any results for a role object, that I was sure had to exist. If you disagree and want to keep the website search on top, then you could put a link on the no results page. Perhaps one saying something like "Did you mean to query the database", which ideally prefills your query-text in the DB search if clicked. This would make the transition easier for people like me who blindly assume the search in the same general UI region still does the same, I think. Best, Joel
Wasn't there a "Your IP address is XXXX" on the old site? (Yes, there was according to archive.org) It's nice to have. It also re-inforces that IPv6 is a thing. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [
mcr@sandelman.ca (Michael Richardson) wrote:
Wasn't there a "Your IP address is XXXX" on the old site? (Yes, there was according to archive.org)
It's nice to have. It also re-inforces that IPv6 is a thing.
I second this, please bring it back. I also feel that searching the website is a LOT less important to avid users than a whois search, so please do bring that one back, too. Elmar.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 11:29, Elmar K. Bins <elmi@4ever.de> wrote:
mcr@sandelman.ca (Michael Richardson) wrote:
Wasn't there a "Your IP address is XXXX" on the old site? (Yes, there was according to archive.org)
It's nice to have. It also re-inforces that IPv6 is a thing.
I second this, please bring it back.
It appears when you click on the magnifying glass icon. It's there but probably needs to be more prominent.
I also feel that searching the website is a LOT less important to avid users than a whois search, so please do bring that one back, too.
I disagree. They are equally important. RIPE Database searches obviously need to be highly accessible but the site search is vital as the site is so big and old stuff is never removed. I look forward to a really good website search feature coming soon. Regards, Leo
On 20 Jan 2024, at 21:06, Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> wrote:
I disagree. They are equally important. RIPE Database searches obviously need to be highly accessible but the site search is vital as the site is so big and old stuff is never removed. I look forward to a really good website search feature coming soon.
Thanks for making this point so eloquently. It’s what I thought too: I do expect the ripe website search tool to first and foremost search the ripe website, notwithstanding the benefit provided by and need for a really good web interface to the ripe db. I assumed I’d missed something and stayed quiet. Thanks also for helping me realise that I had a valid thought all along, Leo. :) Andy
RIPE NCC, thanks for evolving the site! When it comes to searching, I agree with Andy that a search field on a web site leads me to believe that it searches that website*, and not some "external" databse – and I like to have it that way. To access the RIPE DB over HTTPS, I would like so see that as a second, and separate, search field, so that I can "tell the system" where I want it to search, e.g.: Search website: ...... Search RIPE DB: ...... Myself, I'm old enough to prefer the whois CLI tool to lookup stuff in the DB, but I know that I'm old-fashioned, and I do respect that HTTPS is easier for most people. Cheers, /Liman * With the obvious exception of search engines like Google. andy@nosignal.org 2024-01-21 10:16 [+0000]:
On 20 Jan 2024, at 21:06, Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> wrote:
I disagree. They are equally important. RIPE Database searches obviously need to be highly accessible but the site search is vital as the site is so big and old stuff is never removed. I look forward to a really good website search feature coming soon.
Thanks for making this point so eloquently. It’s what I thought too: I do expect the ripe website search tool to first and foremost search the ripe website, notwithstanding the benefit provided by and need for a really good web interface to the ripe db. I assumed I’d missed something and stayed quiet. Thanks also for helping me realise that I had a valid thought all along, Leo. :)
Andy --
Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 11:29, Elmar K. Bins <elmi@4ever.de> wrote: >> >> mcr@sandelman.ca (Michael Richardson) wrote: >> >> > Wasn't there a "Your IP address is XXXX" on the old site? >> > (Yes, there was according to archive.org) >> > >> > It's nice to have. It also re-inforces that IPv6 is a thing. >> >> I second this, please bring it back. > It appears when you click on the magnifying glass icon. It's there but > probably needs to be more prominent. Uh. yeah, that's a bizarre thing. I think that it got refactored wrong. Someone assumed it was part of the search, since that's where it was located. While it's really unrelated. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
participants (9)
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Andy Davidson
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Elmar K. Bins
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Joel Busch
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Lars-Johan Liman
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Leo Vegoda
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Michael Richardson
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Michael Richardson
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Phillip Oldham
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Sander Steffann