Hi, On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 06:27:31PM +0000, Andy Davidson wrote:
Perhaps you might think that this is an accident of how the 728 document is drafted. Of the four Authors, one is the former RIPE Chair and now NCC MD, one the new Chair and former/current NCC employee, and ... Daniel the former nom-com Chair who???s role in the selection of the community chair I have cited as poor governance. Do we have so few people in the community that we have to work with a tiny pool?
If I judge by the number of volunteers for the NomCom, the amount of people interested in this sort of community work is not exactly overwhelming. If I look at who contributed to these documents - that were discussed on an open and public mailing list - the amount of people interested in this sort of community work is not exactly overwhelming either. Daniel has a deep interest (obviously, and still, after so many years) to ensure the well-being of the RIPE NCC *and* the RIPE community, and has invested enormous amounts of time both in actually *creating* a process, where we had none before, gathering volunteers for the NomCom, and pushing the selected members to do their job - all this in a manner that was totally independent from the NCC (e-mails went to a separate server hosted elsewhere, etc.), and very neutral on the actual candidates.
The heart of my complaint is a passion for bottom-up governance and the primacy of community voice in the community.
So - please help make the processes better. Not complain after the fact that the processes are not to your liking. [..]
Yes, this is why I precisely added my support to the request for this to get fixed and I am extremely sad that the 2020 nom-com chair disagreed.
There is nothing in the process that says "we can change this any time while it's already running" - and we shouldn't. The NomCom discussed this at length, and we (not the chair) decided that we go on and do what we were volunteered for: select two candidates that would make a good RIPE chair. And so we did. Now is the time to improve the process. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279